THURSDAY, OCTOBER 23, 2025
Sociopathy and the stupid: For starters, let the word go forth to the nations:
The world isn't going to come to an end because the sitting president has chosen to demolish the East Wing of the White House.
For whatever it may be worth, the behavior by the sitting president may not have been illegal. Given the endless complexification of all our American systems, that question will never be nailed down in any definitive way. But in this morning's New York Times, one experienced observer says this:
Architects Urged a Review of Trump’s Ballroom. Cue the Demolition Crew.
[...]
Edward Lengel, who served as chief historian of the White House Historical Association for two years until 2018, said he had been getting questions about the process. “People have asked me if this is illegal. I don’t think this is illegal,” he said. “I think this is a big loophole that has always been there. Previous presidents have observed precedent and not tried to exploit that loophole.”
Is Lengel right? We have no idea. But the president decided to have his way, and he tore that building down.
The world isn't going to come to an end, but the following ought to be said:
The White House doesn't belong to the sitting president. He doesn't even pay rent.
The White House, including each of its wings, is the property of the United States government. The complex belongs to the American people—or at least, that used to be the case, before the current regime came to town.
L'etat, c'est moi, the new monarch has said. This has produced dual headlines such as these, as found in today's New York Times:
Trump Is Wasting No Time in Tearing Down the East Wing
President Trump initially said the ballroom construction would not dismantle parts of the White House. His officials now say it is cheaper and more structurally sound to simply demolish the East Wing.
Trump Dismisses Another Inspector General, Fueling Oversight Concerns
With the firing of the Export-Import Bank’s inspector general, the president has sidelined around two dozen of the watchdogs who seek out fraud and mismanagement in federal agencies.
Trump Empowers Election Deniers, Still Fixated on 2020 Grievances
The president has placed proponents of his false claims into government jobs while dismantling systems built to secure voting, raising fears that he aims to seize authority over elections ahead of next year’s midterms.
The second and third of those headlines today may involve points of greater concern. But the president's decision to demolish the East Wing, absent any consultation and in the face of previous claim, suggest s a very important point:
If this president isn't a sociopath, he may be able to fill the bill until a real sociopath comes along.
Is something wrong with President Trump? With the people currently around him?
We've asked and we've asked and we've asked and we've asked. As we noted again, the finer people in Blue America aren't willing to go down that road. That said:
In recent weeks, he has given us a bizarre Truth Social post about those magic beds. He has told us that the Democratic Party is "the party of Satan."
He has posted a video in which he dumps barrels of human waste on his opponents' heads. And he has demolished the entire East Wing, in the face of previous statements of assurance.
Is something wrong with this man? To her credit, his niece was able to pity the child who was born to her own grandfather, who she describes as a sociopath.
That said, she speculated that her uncle may may also be a "sociopath." His demolition of property which wasn't his may seem to support some such tragic hypothesis.
Is something clinically wrong with President Trump? If so, that's a human tragedy—but your journalists have sworn not to ask.
That said, our rapidly failing society may be afflicted with something which even worse. Forget about the possible "sociopathy." Let's turn to the monstrously Stupid.
Last night's Gutfeld! program was worse. But for now, we're going to start with the opening segment of yesterday's The Five.
Thanks to the works of the Fox News Channel (and others), our society is awash in the artefacts of the astoundingly Stupid. Yesterday afternoon, at 5 o'clock sharp, guest co-host Emily Compagno, reciting obediently, introduced Segment One:
COMPAGNO (10/22/25): Hello, everyone. I'm Emily Compagno...It's 5 o'clock in New York City, and this is The Five.
The liberals are wokesing [sic] themselves into peak derangement over the construction of Trump's big, beautiful ballroom.
Hillary Clinton said, quote, "It's not his house. It's your house. And he's destroying it."
Compagno gave two more examples of deranged complaints by the libs. And then, she was even willing to read what follows. From the teleprompter to her lips to Red America's ears:
COMPAGNO: Never mind that Barack Obama built his basketball court, Richard Nixon rolled in a bowling alley, and plenty of other presidents did a little home renovation of their own. But President Trump adds a tax-payer free ballroom and suddenly the left is doing the meltdown mambo.
No, you can't get dumber. At 5:05, we got this:
COMPAGNO: I want to talk about the hypocrisy, for example, of Hillary Clinton chiming in. Her husband was one of those presidents. He, for example, brought the putting green closer to the Oval Office, so after he enjoys his cigars, he can take less steps?
She personally oversaw a complete renovation of the inside of the dining room. The list goes on. Are they going to exhume Woodrow Wilson for destroying the colonial garden?
No, you can't get dumber.
Bill Clinton moved the putting green, apparently to the original site of President Eisenhower's putting green. President Nixon installed a one-lane bowling alley in the White House basement.
To Compagno, demolishing the entire East Wing, absent any consultation and in the face of previous reassurance that the East Wing wouldn't even be touched, is an action on the order of such renovations as that.
The reference to President Clinton's cigars was the mandated bow to his relationship with Monica Lewinsky. People like Compagno insist on playing these games in support of the president they revere—the president who has been accused of sexual misconduct by at least 28 women, the president who is refusing to release the Epstein files.
Also, and just for the record:
In 1913, it was apparently Mrs. Woodrow Wilson who "destroyed the colonial garden." Actually, she replaced the colonial garden with what came to be called the Rose Garden, as you can recall in this report from The White House Museum.
Thanks to the leading authority on the topic, the story of the putting green can be remembered here. The (one-lane) basement bowling alley can be seen in the photographs which accompany this report.
Bill Clinton moved the putting green from one spot to another! But so it goes what an inveterate nutcase like Compagno starts pushing the corporate line—and this tribalized hysteria is now a major part of the failing American discourse.
This imitation of human life takes place on the Fox News Channel from 5 a.m. right on into the night. There are plenty of real complaints which can be made, in a serious way, about Democratic Party governance and Blue American cultural positions—but the CEO of the Fox News Channel is determined to send in the clowns.
"There's no way to spin this," Compagno finally said, as she threw to Jesse Watters. "He's doing this for the people," she confidently announced.
"You're very excited today, aren't you, Emily?" Watters surprisingly said. Soon, he was offering his own irrelevant presentation about "the East Wing, or whatever you call it"—and yes, that's what he said
Remarkably, the messenger children of the Fox News Channel maintained this level of inanity all through the long broadcast night. If Clinton could move a putting green fifty yards, why couldn't President Trump demolish an historical building?
The rolling performance culminated in what may have been the craziest 17 minutes we've ever seen on an American "cable news" broadcast. We refer to the first 17 minutes of last evening's Gutfeld! show, during which Kat Timpf—the New York Times recently portrayed her as a beleaguered feminist—provided a striking account of the source of the fury within this stupidified tribe of lost, highly paid boys and girls.
You can't get dumber than what Compagno said. Because we've seen her many times on Gutfeld! shows, we weren't surprised by her rapid-fire anger or by her apparent true belief.
Needless to say, the producers who had fashioned her opening had been working from script. The Trump White House had already fashioned this brain-dead account of the way President Wilson "demolished the colonial garden."
The channel, a mouthpiece for Trump, cut and pasted from there.
That said, the siting president has knocked the walls down—and he keeps firing providers of oversight. Along with that, it's the magic bed, and the plane dumping feces on the public's heads, and the Dems as "the party of Satan."
This is where our rapidly failing culture currently stands. In the face of our own Blue American silence, will there be some coming back?
Tomorrow: What Michelle Goldberg says she saw as the feces came raining down
There will be no coming back.
ReplyDeleteWe made a deal with gun owners that we'd allow the wholesale slaughter of schoolchildren, in exchange for them fighting government tyranny, and now that the bill is due, they've skipped town.
The don’t think it’s tyranny. They support Trump.
DeleteWho is a tyrant
DeleteLifelong criminal says we need to pay him $3,000/sq. ft. for his addition. What the actual fuck the Embezzler in Chief talking about? Nothing comes close to that price. Greasy fucks. Top to bottom.
DeleteKing Orange Chickenshit wants turn the "people's house" into the fucking Palace of Versailles on the Potomac. Somebody needs to throw a net on that loony bastard.
DeleteThe second and third of those headlines today may involve points of greater concern. Fuck off Somerby with your may.
ReplyDeleteMy favorite whine is Obama added a basketball hoop so bothsides. Added a basketball hoop to a fucking existing tennis court. These fucking people.
ReplyDelete
ReplyDelete"The White House doesn't belong to the sitting president."
Yawn. You used to be relatively interesting to read, Bob Somerby, albeit too long and repetitive.
But now you're nothing. You're a long and repetitive standard-issue idiotic Soros-monkey. TDS destroyed you. Sad.
Somerby is not a member of the blue tribe. That means he is not being paid by Soros or any other Democrat. Calling him a Soros-monkey means you don't pay any attention to his content.
DeleteAlso thinking Soros pays individuals to piss on Trump is its own kind of idiocracy. Like that goofy woman screaming at us out her car last Saturday morning - who's paying you? Nobody bitch, we just care about America and our now lost Democracy. All while you scrap, bow, and toss buckets of money at the demented commander in thief.
DeleteYou seem to be confusing Somerby with Scott Bessent, trumptard.
DeleteThese trumptards were all gung ho for cutting foreign aid to feed starving children or provide medical care for children, but are completely silent on handing out welfare to the Argentina disaster, to the tune of $40 billion, $40 billion that should be going to help Americans but is just being pissed away on foreigners that made bad bets.
DeleteI'm so old I remember when Mao was pining for Shrub to do him up his ass.
Delete@11:43 seems to think that when the Republicans win an election, that means democracy is dead.
Delete3:58 seems to think there is a Republican voter who isn't a bigot, despite the fact that he can't name one.
DeleteSomerby's buyer's remorse over Trump is a daily delight!
ReplyDeleteWASHINGTON (AP) — President Donald Trump has pardoned Binance founder Changpeng Zhao, who created the world’s largest cryptocurrency exchange and served prison time for failing to stop criminals from using the platform to move money connected to child sex abuse, drug trafficking and terrorism.
ReplyDeletehttps://apnews.com/article/trump-pardon-binance-changpeng-zhao-crypto-exchange-e1cb3fe516bc42b4c7ce5c107a280dc7
Of course he has. Ghislaine is next.
DeleteQiB - Don't forget the part that Binance stuffed money into the Trump Crime Family to orchestrate this all to normal activity for the lifelong crook. Pay me to steal from my fellow Americans, and you get a get out of jail free card. Greasy fucks are gonna fuck you. Just a matter of time.
DeleteRoss Ulbricht 2.0
DeleteI thought the Right was pretending to care about illegalities, because it was in service to bigotry.
DeleteDid they stop doing that?
COLLINS: Today you pardoned the founded of Binance. Can you explain why you did that?
DeleteTRUMP: Which one was that?
COLLINS: The founder of Binance
TRUMP: I believe we're talking about the same person, because I do pardon a lot of people. I don't know. He was recommended by a lot of people.
"I don't know."
Delete"The world isn't going to come to an end because the sitting president has chosen to demolish the East Wing of the White House.
ReplyDeleteFor whatever it may be worth, the behavior by the sitting president may not have been illegal. Given the endless complexification of all our American systems, that question will never be nailed down in any definitive way. "
Somerby wouldn't have said this any differently if he were a card-carrying Republican. This kind of idiocy is why some here believe he is helping Trump with his propaganda efforts.
First, the courts will decide whether what Trump did was legal. Saying we will never know denies that we have courts to disentangle complicated matters. Republicans don't respect the courts and their decisions, so Somerby's attitude reflects the right, not the left on this issue.
Second, Trump didn't just rearrange the furniture, he is demolishing an entire Wing of a historic building that has great value to the American people. He did not tell anyone he was going to do that and he does not have the right to just decide to do it without involving others.
Third, demolishing the White House like this is a sign of dementia, a crazy act. No sane person would do it like this.
Fourth, given that this is a sign of Trump's dementia, the world may be in danger from Trump's other deranged acts, done with similar lack of foresight, lack of involvement of others, irrevocably and without recourse by those harmed.
Fifth, this action is important because it reflects Trump's current delusion that he is a king who can do whatever he wants without concern about what anyone else thinks, especially the people whose house he is demolishing.
Somerby himself may not give a damn about the White House, as his sentence about the world not ending suggests. He is minimizing the feelings of others about a symbolic building. We cared just as much about the Capitol building being defiled by poop on its interior walls, even though the world didn't end then either. The criterion for taking acts seriously is not whether the world will end but what it means that such a thing has been done.
The world may come to an end if Trump takes it into his fuzzy brain to nuke those fishing boats full of fentanyl (he says). It may come to an end for those living in Northern parts of our country if Trump decides to march into Canada. What prevents any of this? Nothing, apparently, since he is doing other disastrous things without restraint.
You have to credit Trump for duplicating Putin's ballroom. Penis envy much?
Delete"First, the courts will decide whether what Trump did was legal."
DeleteDoubtful. A plaintiff would have to have standing to sue and a complaint that the court can remedy.
All the king's horses and all the king's men, you know. They can't make him undestroy it.
Why are the American people not plaintiffs, with the bureau that administers the buildings as their representative? The court could halt the demolition and require Trump to reconstruct the East Wing that he has wantonly damaged. What was built in the first place can be rebuilt.
DeleteThe idea that our government needs a ballroom has never been examined. Who would use it? There is a reason why the inaugural balls are held off govt property and funded by donations. Why then would that not apply to the construction of a ballroom for the White House?
The paving of the Rose Garden was done to allow more tables to be placed there for grifting purposes. Trump has been holding "donor" events there. A ballroom will expand his corruption. That should be a reason to oppose it.
I do not understand why you are arguing in support of right wingers, when it seems obvious that this is happening because Congress is derelict in its oversight. That Congress does not have the will to intervene does not mean that what Trump is doing is right (legal, moral, ethical, consistent with American values, traditions and norms, the will of the people, etc.).
Quaker, Trump should just go ahead and shoot his enemies. The courts cannot make him reincarnate them after they are dead, amirite? And who would have standing to complain when all of his enemies are deceased? So what's the big deal?
Delete@2:10 Under current Supreme Court decisions, Trump could shoot his enemies as long as he could claim it was an "official act" of the president.
DeleteAnyway, that would be a criminal matter. If someone sued Trump civilly for shooting his enemies, the courts could be hamstrung in just the way you describe.
@2:09 You are mistaken. I am not "arguing in favor of right wingers." I am only pointing out that with the East Wing already reduced to rubble, it's difficult for the courts to provide a remedy.
DeleteIf only we had prisons.
DeleteWhy couldn't the East Wing be rebuilt? You can't reassemble the rubble, but there is no reason the structure couldn't be rebuilt from scratch. It could even be rebuilt to look like the original wing that was destroyed.
Delete@3:23 Possible, I suppose. So far, I'm not seeing any person or organization step up to take it to court. That has to happen before 1:44's prediction that "the courts will decide" can come true.
DeleteYesterday it was the portico and today it is the entire East Wing, which means this desecration is still happening. It takes time to write and file a lawsuit. I hope it will happen, if only because the American people should decide whether a humongous ballroom is more important than the First Lady's office space.
DeleteBob, the East Wing of the White House isn’t a whole lot older than you.
ReplyDeleteWhat does that matter?
DeleteThe East Wing is where the First Lady's offices are. It has been obvious since the end of Trump's last term that Melania wants nothing more to do with Trump. This demolition may be the result of a personal fight between Melania (who hasn't resided in the White House or Mar a Lago for ages) and Trump, a way of him showing his anger that he cannot force her to be devoted when she plainly hates him.
That is not what people are disturbed about and you know it. Or you would if you had any character.
DeleteCecelia, I lost all respect for you when you failed to defend the poop video.
DeleteAnonymouse 2:03pm, so now you’re saying that irreverence toward the WH wasn’t a contention to the ballroom plans. You’re not very quick on your feet.
DeleteI'm saying there was never a Republican voter who isn't a bigot.
DeleteTry to keep up, Mister.
"wasn’t a contention to the ballroom plans"
DeleteThis is gibberish. It doesn't mean anything in English. Perhaps she means "consideration" but that isn't what she has said here. Then she accuses someone else of not being quick on their feet. When she cannot use English words to convey any coherent meaning!
Cecelia. You are an unpleasant person and a nuisance and most people here would be happy if you just left.
Anonymouse 2:43pm, I get it. You love the sound of clapping… on each others’ butts. Oh, well, I’m still here.
DeleteAs long as there is a child rapist on the Right to protect, Cecelia will be here failing to be funny.
DeleteAnonymouse 3:16pm, lighter, but still derivative. Keep working on it.
DeleteI was being deadly serious, Cecelia.
DeleteLike terminal cancer and your "jokes", it wasn't meant to be funny.
3:32,
DeleteNothing derivative about a
What are you going to do about it, Cecelia?
DeleteThrow out some idle threat about not voting for child rapists to run the country?
Cecelia knows derivative when he sees it.
DeleteAfter all, he's been reading TDH for years now.
Anonymices could have a great time at the Daily Howler if the Daily Howler, the blogger, and its supporters weren’t here.
Delete"(Trump) had said in July that the existing White House wouldn’t be touched by his ballroom construction. “It won’t interfere with the current building. It’ll be near it but not touching it. And pays total respect to the existing building, which I’m the biggest fan of.”
ReplyDeleteBut that pledge by the President is no longer operative. Why not? Well, Trump explained yesterday, the East Wing “was never thought of as being much. It was a very small building.”
Very small is bad. Very big is good."
- from today's Bulwark.
Anonymouse 1:47pm, that’s utterly surprising. Construction projects are ever static.
DeleteGod you fucks are annoying. Is that what RT pays you to be?
DeleteLil RT or Lil Ole RT?
DeleteWhatever Boris.
DeleteAnonymouse 2:01pm, da.
DeleteCecelia plainly thinks that the interference by Russia in social media and blogs like this one is hilarious, even if put an incompetent cretin like Trump into office.
DeleteAnonymouse 2:20pm, no, I think your accusations as to Bob being a Putin agent are clownish. So do some of your fellow liberals.
DeleteWe are giving Somerby the benefit of the doubt. It is marginally better to think of him needy and taking the RT money to feed his cat, than to think of him as corrupt without any concern for our country, a traitor on his own small scale. Similarly, it is better to think of him as corrupt than to consider him so demented that he is being led around by the nose by Fox News, much as Trump's MAGA supporters are.
DeleteIf there was a Republican voter who isn't a bigot, we would have heard about it by now.
DeleteAnonymouse 2:40pm, I think Bob rankles one or two of your priestesses and you mices fall over yourselves in trying to show your devotion to them. You have no cause that takes precedence over that.
DeleteNow you are just trying to irritate people. That means it is time for you to go away now, asshole troll.
Delete2:47,
DeleteThey said the same thing about the kid from the Republican family who shot that piece of shit, Charlie Kirk, to death.
No precedence over pointing out Bob Somerby repeats Right-wing grievances daily, my ass.
As long as right wing trolls feel comfortable embarrassing themselves on this site we should be happy to oblige them.
DeleteObserving this toxic right wing vanity blog wither away, is not unamusing.
ReplyDeleteyou're boring
DeleteLooking beyond the wanton, meaningless destruction of the White House, this reeks of corruption to high heaven.
ReplyDeleteUsing private donors, whose massive companies benefit or suffer at Trump's whim, is corrupt. Apple got exempted from tariffs; Trump could change his mind at any minute.
Secondly, Trump is demanding $230mil from the US government, a sum that is suspiciously close to the cost of building the ballroom. Todd Blanche, Trump's personal attorney, is certainly going to sign off on it, and taxpayer end up paying for Trump's vanity project.
Makes one yearn for the good old days when bribes were $50K and were handed out in Kava bags.
$500/sq.ft. gets you a gold plated brick hospital addition. Trump's addition is well over $3,000/sq.ft. and growing. Greasy fucks indeed.
DeleteThe estimate has gone up to $300 million as of this morning. Anyone who believes the final price tag for this 90,000 SF monstrosity is not going to double that at least, I have a bridge to sell you in Brooklyn
DeleteIIya, this isn’t a new thing, whether it’s donations to presidential libraries or First Lady Jackie K’s tenure of renovation in the WH.
DeleteI reckon Trump will have to collect a larger settlement from the US government.
DeletePresidential libraries are built after presidency.
DeleteIIya, via going after public prosecutors. The old fashioned way.
DeleteJackie changed the drapes. Presidential libraries are non-profit foundations open to the public as a repository of historic documents and objects related to a specific president, nowhere near the White House but usually located near that president's birthplace. The president is not a charity, certainly not non-profit given his refusal to divest during his terms. He conducts private family business on govt time, ignoring all rules about conflict of interest.
DeleteIt bothers me that Cecelia doesn't know enough about her country that she would equate these things and not notice Trump's grifts. Why can't Russia give its trolls some rudimentary training before siccing them on us?
President Trump is not a charity.
DeleteAnonymouse 2:18pm, it doesn’t bother me at all that you’re so disingenuous that you deny that rich people contribute to the political and the societal causes of politicians all the time. Now suddenly, THAT should be reason enough to argue against changing the WH. Perhaps the president could just do it on the public dime. Either way, you’re going to be pulling your hair out over a portion of the WH that was added to the structure in 1942.
DeleteIt doesn't bother me too much that some guy who posts under the name Cecelia tries to make jokes, because naming a Republican voter who isn't a bigot is impossible.
DeleteHe's really no different than any of the other 7+ Billion people on this Earth who couldn't name a Republican voter who isn't a bigot, either.
Anonymouse 2:45pm, stick with your one-liners. Any thing more and we see the bile.
DeleteCecelia, one reason George Santos went to jail is that he confused his own pockets with his campaign organization. It is illegal for Trump to benefit financially from the presidency. That he continues to do so is because oversight is not being performed, the Republican congress refuses to do its job, and the investigative agencies are all under Trump's thumb run by corrupt cronies. There are supposed to be checks on a president's ability to grift while in office. Those have been dismantled with the help of Republicans in Congress and the firing of anyone who could object (via DOGE and now cabinet heads).
DeleteCecelia, your inability to differentiate between legal charities and graft is either appalling stupidity or complicity, or both. You are no doubt unable to visit the White House due to living in Eastern Europe, but the age of the East Wing has nothing to do with its importance as a symbol of our government.
IIya, via going after public prosecutors. The old fashioned way.
DeleteEh?
2:54: is there any accounting of the money that was given for this project, or of the project itself? Unless and until there is, you have to wonder if Trump is simply pocketing it. He has a known history of corruption.
DeleteIIya, thru suing some of them.
Delete$300 million project? It's a safe bet Trump will get his beak wet on some of that.
DeleteWho is he suing? He’s simply asking for money.
DeleteAnonymouse 3:00pm, you’ve gone from arguing that Trump is defiling the historic White House via taking off a room that was added in 1942, to arguing that he is monetarily profiting from the arrangement. I’m supposed to run that up the flagpole and automatically salute that notion. That’s not really an argument. It’s an assumption. There’s all sorts of situations that you must immediately see as being outright crimes a-forehand due to it being Trump. I get that this is your impulse and argument. What I don’t get is why you demand that everyone else should find that compelling.
DeleteThe last time Cecelia made an assumption, she looked like the world's biggest fool, because no Republican voter who isn't a bigot could be identified.
DeleteAnonymouse 3:22pm, derivative as usual, but better.
DeleteRemoving an entire wing of the White House: just like Jackie Kennedy changing the drapes.
DeleteTrump and his family have a well documented history of overcharging for renovations on their apartment houses. I would not put anything past him.
Delete@3:22, don't worry. Cecelia doesn't know what "derivative" means.
DeleteShe also doesn't know the difference between a room and a wing of a house. She says:
"...you’ve gone from arguing that Trump is defiling the historic White House via taking off a room that was added in 1942..."
"The White House East Wing contains about 20 to 25 rooms, primarily offices and support spaces, although the exact number can vary due to renovations. It is a two-story addition to the Executive Residence and includes spaces like the President's theater, the visitor's entrance, and the East Colonnade. " [AI]
This is good evidence that Cecelia is not American at all, not even an ignorant American. Any American has seen shows like "The West Wing" and understands that a wing consists of multiple offices, not a single room.
Anonymouse 3:26pm, the First Lady got relegated to the East Wing. Mrs. Carter finally made the area the official office of the First Lady. I’d love to see pictures of the bunker under it.
DeleteThere is something seriously the fuck wrong with you maggots. There is no possibility of rational conversation with you all. King Orange Chickenshit just took a giant piece of construction equipment and ripped out the entire East Wing of the White House, our fucking White House. No permit, no architectural review, no nothing. There is a fucking process to do these things. Can you people not even concede this shit is fucking crazy???
DeleteMany of us are in mourning but Cecelia thinks it is great fun to poke her dirty fingers into our wound. There's that famous Republican lack of empathy again.
DeleteBeing an Eastern European troll, Cecelia doesn't understand how the role of women in American society has changed over time. The First Ladies began to need office space because they took on a larger role in office, carrying out their own projects and having greater visibility to the public. This happened as the role of women in general changed as women got the vote and moved into paid employment and began to hold important positions outside the home. Before the East Wing, first ladies were not involved outside of the residence and state and social functions. Unlike earlier first ladies, Rosalind Carter worked alongside her husband during her entire long life, helping others.
DeleteIn contrast, Melania shirked her role as First Lady, complained about traditional activities and now has abandoned Trump, the White House, and being First Lady entirely. If someone is being relegated to obscurity, it is Melania, not Rosalind Carter, whose husband was devoted to her forever.
Go ahead, Cecelia, shit on a few more American traditions. You are not only pretending to be female but also pretending to be American. You have no respect for what makes our country great.
IIya, thru suing some of them.
DeleteHe's not suing them, which pretty much would be impossible. He's simply demanding money from the government. Oh, and for those who are not paying attention: Trump is in charge of the aforementioned government. Apparently, though, it's not as simple as asking for money; Todd Blanche must approve this expenditure. That's a high bar to clear.
Anonymouse 4:18pm, what tradition should I be grasping? ? The tradition of holding large WH affairs in tents?
DeleteGrasp your clit.
DeleteShort-Fingered Vulgarian Clings to Delusions
ReplyDelete"Trump, on the other hand, as he sat Tuesday at his desk in his newly gilded Oval Office, looking out on his paved-over Rose Garden, not far from where he plans to build his new imitation of the Arc de Triomphe, said this:
“We can never let what happened in the 2020 election happen again. We just can’t let that happen. I know Kash is working on it, everybody is working on it. And certainly Tulsi is working on it. We can’t let that happen again to our country.”
And what happened in the 2020 election was, of course...a proper election. To translate: we can't let elections happen again.
DeleteThe snowflakes on the Right will never get over the fact that we counted black people's votes in the 2020 Presidential election.
Delete"We've asked and we've asked and we've asked and we've asked. As we noted again, the finer people in Blue America aren't willing to go down that road."
ReplyDeleteIs J.B. Pritzker not one of the finer people in Blue America? He has been down that road, in fact he lives on that road. How about Lawrence O'Donnell? He's been there too, repeatedly, as often as Somerby can repeat the word "asked". Nearly every substack blue hero has been down that road repeatedly, warning us about Trump's cognitive issues. Some asked why Trump's medical records were not being released (before the White House released some fictional health reports). Some have interviewed doctors about what his symptoms mean. There are intrepid blue writers who notice when Trump disappears, report on the emptiness of his daily schedule, and follow him to his golf courses (where reporters are prevented from watching him play golf). Blue news sources repeat every single one of Trump's increasingly frequent and enormously demented gaffes, growing worse with the passage of time.
Somerby cannot complain that the blue media isn't doing all this, when he persists in calling the mainstream, corporate, legacy media blue, when Republicans now control major sources such as CBS, NY Times, Wash Post and the other media who have surrendered to Trump's threats and now post anti-Democratic pro-Trump opinion pieces without any balance. Yesterday, Douthat was permitted to claim that Taylor Swift has become a conservative (because she wants to get married). That is Trump-pleasing garbage of the type you'd expect on Fox, from what Somerby continues to call blue media when it is plainly not.
Isn't some sort of permit required before you can knock down a historic landmark?
ReplyDeleteI'm not talking about Trump, I'm talking about whoever was hired to demolish the East Wing. Wouldn't that company need some sort of clearance to begin work?
And, by the way, who are they and how'd they get selected in the first place?
We don't have to show you no stinking permit! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VqomZQMZQCQ&t=15s
DeleteWhen you're the president, you don't have to obey any laws, much less rules and restrictions and permitting and inspection. You just grab a backhoe and go to it.
DeleteRight now, this is Trump doing this. When the right is more firmly entrenched locally, any of them will be able to do anything they want to their neighbors without notice or any annoying paperwork, just because they are MAGAs. They already behave like assholes -- imagine them much much worse, like Trump has become. What's the point of paying for a friend on the inside if you can't throw your weight around. This is not going to be a good country to live in any more.
"Hillary Clinton said, quote, "It's not his house. It's your house. And he's destroying it."
ReplyDeleteToday is Hillary's birthday. She is 78. If she had been elected President in 2016, our country would be much better off. Somerby said she was a horrible candidate and couldn't find any strengths to talk about, but she went on to win the popular vote by 2+ million. Why did she lose? Somerby has never discussed the factors affecting those swing states that gave Trump the electoral college. Somerby prefers to blame it all on Hillary. History will be kinder to her, after it has the chance to explore things like Russia's contribution to Trump's campaign, Comey's outrageous interference, Obama's refusal to investigate Russian collusion, and so on. We could have had one of the most competent and qualified candidates for the office ever, but instead MAGAs chose the demented idiot currently destroying national treasures because he loves to play with construction equipment when he is bored, which is all the time now.
Republicans did this to us and our country. Red voters are responsible for every single one of Trump's destructive acts. It doesn't matter that they are suffering too, or perhaps more than the left, because they were told what would happen and they did it anyway. That is even more true for the election in 2024. We had an excellent president and Republicans threw him out. Now we all are in worse shit than any time since the Great Depression. And red voters were warned, but did it anyway, to "own the libs".
We can't walk back time, but we can do as much as possible to restore America to its previous path of prosperity. That means waking up Republicans in congress to end the shutdown, releasing the Epstein files, processing the resulting impeachment bills and removing Trump from office. The sooner the better. Don't let Quaker argue that we have no standing to do this. We are the only ones who can do it, via our elected representatives.
Somerby seems like the type of clown who would say we can't raise taxes on businesses, because they'll just move their businesses out of the country.
ReplyDeleteWe can’t take private donations to update the WH, because they’re de facto bribes. More to the point… because it’s Pres. Trump. The End.
DeleteWho precisely is donating, where is the list and the amounts? Who is collecting the cash, Uday and Qusay?
DeleteMarc Rich.
DeleteC.D.S. is terminal.
DeleteIt is far easier to prove that Trump has committed impeachable offenses than it would be to prove he is a sociopath. When Somerby harps on diagnosing him as sociopathic, it has the effect of distracting from those many impeachable offenses, Trump's crimes and misdemeanors and his neglect of his oath of office, and his corruption and collusion with foreign enemies (esp Putin). All of these concrete, observable, illegal acts that Trump has committed can be lined up and presented to the public as evidence to remove him from office. There is no equivalent list of symptoms that would convince untrained non-professionals to diagnose him as a sociopath, especially when so many people think of Hannibal Lecter or Ted Bundy as the epitome of a sociopath and would find Trump a laughable monster compared to those serial killers.
ReplyDeleteWhy does Somerby keep harping on his psychiatric problems? Perhaps because he knows they are opaque to the public and won't be convincing to MAGAs or others, who may just consider it empty name-calling and not a good reason to remove someone from office. Dementia would be, because we all have elderly relatives and know what dementia is like. Sociopathy, not so much.
So, I think this sociopathy-campaign of Somerby's detracts from the real work at hand -- removing Trump for incompetence, corruption and failure to perform his duties as president. Convincing people of that would be a slam dunk, which may be why Somerby ignores it in favor of trying to portray Trump as crazy.
As long as Republicans continue to believe they will benefit financially from Trump's presidency, they aren't going to listen to arguments about harm Trump is doing to our country. Even those of Trump's faithful voters are being bought off by financial promises that Trump will not fulfill. There is a point where greed blinds reason and makes MAGAs unable to see the harm being done, as long as it is happening to others and not themselves.
It may be easy to show Trump has committed impeachable crimes. It's not easy to get the do-nothing enablers in Congress to convict him for them.
DeleteThe first step in trying to move them is to convince them that this isn't normal.
Most sociopaths are not criminals, much less serial killers or grandiose narcissists. They hold regular jobs, have wives and families, do not tell lies because they have learned not to, and are indistinguishable from non-sociopaths. Most children with conduct disorder get help and become normal adults, not criminals. Instead of being helped in childhood, Trump was encouraged in his misbehavior and grew up believing he could have and do whatever he wanted. Now he has dementia and that is complicating things -- it is why he is so much worse now than in his first term, when he used to listen to advisors.
DeleteSimply calling Trump a sociopath does nothing to convince anyone of anything. It is also demeaning and unfair to those who are sociopaths but who function within social norms and laws.
I suggest attacking Trump using his dementia, not a psychiatric disorder, especially when Trump doesn't seem abnormal to a substantial number of his followers. I suspect that Trump is going to die relatively soon -- maybe within a year. It would be better to use some due process to remove him than to have new conspiracy theories and JD Vance in office, when he will not be ending any of the grifting.
The first step in trying to remove Trump is to charge him with a list of offenses in Articles of Impeachment in Congress, once the Democrats have the majority in both chambers. Trump has lost the support of the voters, so that IS going to happen.
This is what Trump is tearing down:
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Notice that the paintings on the walls are of former first ladies. Removing the East Wing, the domain of the First Lady, is symbolic in the sense that it conveys the right wing view that women do not belong doing important public jobs. Melania never did anything while first lady but that is not true of other women holding that position.
Beyond wanting his ballroom, this may further the groyper agenda to remove women from society and keep them in the home, responsible only for taking care of children and husband. Denigrating the first lady by tearing down her office may be another way of putting women in their place.
Notice that Trump considers the East Wing expendable.
Quaker,
DeleteThere are at least 10 Republicans who think treason against the United States of America is an impeachable defense.
The question is, how do you convince them to run for Senate?
From Tiedrich:
ReplyDelete"let’s talk about the timing, because that’s pretty fucking suspicious. two days after eight million Americans told Donny to go fuck himself, demolition crews show up unannounced and start tearing the shit out of the East Wing — before any plans or permits are submitted, and before any prep work is done at the site.
so, is this some kind of revenge thing? did Donny work himself up in a Big Rage, and grab the phone and bark GET THIS THING DONE NOW into it? sounds totally plausible, doesn’t it? because you know that Donny is an impulsive rage-baby who acts first and thinks never.
which leads us to the next question: in the big rush to knock everything down, did anyone preserve any of that shit?
all the furnishings, all the portraits. all the historical artifacts. where are they now? did anyone catalog any of it? is there a list? can we see it?
did everything get bulldozed under, or thrown into the dumpster behind the White House? and if that dumpster is now full, where is Steve Bannon going to sleep tonight?"
Tiedrich points out that there are zero Republicans complaining about the demolition of the East Wing without notice. Spineless cowards.
DeleteTiedrich understands what this all means:
Delete"once upon a time in America, we used to have presidents who understood their assignment.
they didn’t imagine themselves to be kings or lords. they were Americans who had been elected to an office, to serve the We the People.
here’s a thing that’s inscribed in stone at the Franklin Delano Roosevelt Memorial in Washington DC.
“I never forget that I live in a house owned by all the American people and that I have been given their trust.”
And now we have a president who not only has no appreciation for his role as president, but who cannot even read.
"As the walls come down on the part of the White House that’s been synonymous with American first ladies for decades, Melania Trump has remained silent.
ReplyDeleteThe first lady has not publicly spoken about the demolition of the East Wing, which has served as the headquarters for presidential spouses since the Carter administration, even though its destruction has now upended her team’s office space and forced the halt of White House tours for the general public.
Her office declined to comment when asked by CNN if she had a reaction to the gutting of the historic wing. Crews began work this week to build President Donald Trump’s long-sought ballroom — sparking outcry among some former East Wing staffers of both parties. Asked if the first lady is supportive of the project, her office would not say.
Melania Trump has spent minimal time in the East Wing — which has long served as the entry point for grand White House events like state dinners and receptions — during her husband’s second term in office, eschewing the nation’s capital for New York and Palm Beach, where she spends the vast majority of her time.
In Washington, she employs a skeletal staff compared to the first term — with just five full-time staff members as of July — but those staffers have relocated during the construction to other office space on White House grounds, according to a White House official.
The Office of the First Lady and the social office — which oversees major events at the White House — are now inside the executive mansion, split between the Vermeil Room, the South Mezzanine, the Library and the China Room. Other departments that had office space in the East Wing have been moved to the Eisenhower Executive Office Building, including the White House Military Office, the calligraphers, the White House Visitors Office, and the Office of Legislative Affairs, the official said.
The White House has not responded to CNN’s inquiry as to whether plans for the ballroom construction will include permanent replacement office space for the first lady’s staff.
But the scope of the renovations — and the lack of messaging from Melania Trump’s office — underscores the first lady’s changed role in Washington, which is a departure from her tenure during the first term and that of former first ladies.
In her husband’s first term, Trump was an active steward of White House preservation. She helped oversee the restoration of the Bellangé suite of furniture in the Blue Room. She replaced the rug in the Diplomatic Reception Room. She was involved in a 2020 redesign of the White House Rose Garden – an effort to improve drainage and audio-visual equipment that drew criticism at the time. And shortly after the 2020 election, she unveiled a new White House tennis pavilion, which subsequently won multiple architectural awards.
This time around, her husband has spearheaded major projects – and she has declined to weigh in publicly.
“Watching the demolition is the physical embodiment of watching the first lady’s role become smaller and smaller,” said Kate Andersen Brower, author of “First Women,” a book exploring the power and role of modern first ladies." [CNN]
All this makes her involvement as Vlad's penpal even more perplexing.
DeleteIf she started out as a Russian agent while a model, was introduced to Trump and became his handler during their marriage, his presidential campaigns and presidencies, that would make the situation less perplexing. I doubt anyone thinks she cares about Ukrainian children when she didn't care that America was separating children from their parents and holding them in cages.
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