NO OTHERS NEED APPLY: A candidate helped form a movement!

WEDNESDAY, APRIL 11, 2018

Part 3—Concerning who got to apply:
It would be a better world if no one ever got shot and killed, including or perhaps especially by police officers.

It would also be a better world if police officers never got shot and killed. That would be better too.

In part for these reasons, the issue of police shootings began to take on a higher profile in the aftermath of the shooting death of Michael Brown, age 18, in August 2014.

The shooting death of Trayvon Martin in February 2012 had already sparked large amounts of political activism and media coverage. In this case, however, Brown had been shot and killed by a Ferguson, Missouri, police officer, not by a civilian.

The issue of police shootings has been in the news ever since. Stating the obvious, this is perfectly appropriate, though commentary and analysis have at times been imperfect.

We interrupt our current program to offer a quick observation. In a recent column, the New York Times' Ross Douthat referred to what he perceives as “the inability of contemporary liberalism to see itself from the outside, as it looks to the many people who for some reason, class or religion or historical experience, are not fully indoctrinated into its increasingly incoherent mix of orthodoxies.”

We often feel we don't quite understand what Douthat is talking about. In this case, we thought perhaps we did.

Do we the modern liberals really have an "increasingly incoherent mix of orthodoxies?” We'll offer two familiar stances which may not quite align:
A pair of familiar reactions, perceptions or claims:
1) Our nation is awash in guns.
2) It shocks the senses to think that police officers ever use their guns.
Newsflash: In a nation which is awash in guns, police officers will sometimes use their guns. Sometimes they'll do so in ways which are plainly criminal. Other times, they'll use their guns in ways which, alas, seem to make perfect sense.

Statistic-citing liberal savants will rail at their horrible conduct. At such times, as Douthat suggests, we liberals may not fully be able to grasp the way we look Out There.

We return to our regular programming:

Police shootings have been in the news since the death of Michael Brown. This led to a slightly puzzling part of Hillary Clinton's 2017 book, What Happened, in which she gives her account of the disastrous 2016 White House campaign.

We refer to the unnumbered chapter of that book which begins on page 173. The chapter is called "Turning Mourning into a Movement." The chapter starts like this:
CLINTON (page 173): They radiated strength. They were proud women who had seen a lot, cried a lot and prayed a lot. I walked around the room, introducing myself one by one to the dozen mothers who had come from all over the country. I listened to their stories and took in their quiet, fierce dignity.

It was November 2015. We were in the homey Sweet Maple Cafe on Chicago's West Side. Each of the mothers around the table had lost children to gun violence or to encounters with police officers. They had come to talk about what happened to their kids and to see if I would do something about it—or if I was just another politician after their votes.
Clinton met with a dozen mothers that day. Later in the chapter, she says that "many of them had never met [each other] before" that day in Chicago. She says they began bonding that day, and that, in that way, "The Mothers of The Movement were born."

Some of what follows will involve something which resembles criticism of Clinton. None of what follows is meant to suggest any criticism of the seven women, from that dozen, who apparently formed that group.

In that opening passage, Clinton's description of the connection between these mothers is already perhaps a bit fuzzy. As Clinton says, each of the mothers had lost a child to gun violence or to an encounter with police officers.

In some cases, those encounters did involve a police officer's use of a gun. In other instances, no police officer was involved at all.

In one case, a young person lost his life in a police shooting which Eric Holder, Barack Obama's attorney general, declared to be fully justified in a formal report. In another incident, a 15-year-old honors student was shot and killed in a park by a random shot fired by a random teen-aged gang member.

Already, the nature of the movement these women formed may be a bit unclear. For starters, though, we want to consider Clinton's question:

Was she just another pol looking for those women's votes, perhaps for their public support?

Was Clinton just another pol? Everything is possible! Indeed, when Clinton begins describing the deaths of these women's children, it's almost possible to be almost shocked:
CLINTON (page 174): The Mothers' stories, and the stories of others who lost children to gun violence, deserve to be told and heard. We've got to keep saying their names. In that first meeting in Chicago, there was no press and no audience—just us. I was accompanied by my senior policy adviser Maya Harris and Director of African American Outreach LaDavia Drane.

Sybrina Fulton, whose unarmed seventeen-year-old son Trayvon Martin was shot and killed outside a convenience store near Orlando, Florida, in 2012, kicked things off. "We're just regular moms," she said. "We don't want to be community activists, we don't want to be the mothers of senseless gun violence, we don't want to be in this position—we were forced into this position. None of us signed up for this."
Clinton starts that passage by saying that the stories of these women's children "deserve to be told."

Surely, no one can doubt that. She proceeds to offer a strikingly inaccurate account of the death of Sybrina Fulton's son, Trayvon Martin.

As everyone knows, Trayvon Martin was not "shot and killed outside a convenience store near Orlando, Florida." As everyone but Clinton surely knows, that simply isn't his story.

Trayvon Martin was shot and killed inside a gated community in Sanford, Florida, where he and his father were visiting a friend. That story had been told a million times by the time Clinton wrote and published her book.

In another remarkable moment, Clinton refers to Martin's shooting death as a "murder." A duly constituted jury had of course ruled that it was no such thing.

It's a remarkable breach of custom for a major American pol to overturn due process that way. It's also, perhaps, a part of the way our liberal culture has strayed.

Let's return to that puzzling factual error. It's amazing to think that such an obvious error could appear in such a high-profile book, perhaps the most high-profile book of the entire year.

Everybody makes mistakes, but Martin's story had been told a million times by the time Clinton's book appeared. The fact that the error appeared in her book does make us wonder about her.

More precisely, it makes us wonder if she really was "just another politician" making an especially insincere play for a batch of votes, and later for tribal respect. In our view, it wouldn't be the worst idea if you took a moment to wonder about that too.

Nothing we say here is meant, in any way, as a criticism of any of these mothers, who aren't professional pols. We do mean to criticize Clinton—for this later passage, for example, again describing that meeting at the Sweet Maple Cafe:
CLINTON (page 180): Lezley McFadden was direct with me. Her eighteen-year-old son, Michael Brown, was shot and killed in 2014 by a police officer in Ferguson, Missouri. "Are we going to see change?" Lezley asked. "Once again we're around a table, we're putting our hearts out, we're getting emotional, we tell you what we feel—but are we going to see any change? Are we going to see action?"
As noted above, the attorney general of the administration in which Clinton served had ruled that Brown's death resulted from a fully justified shooting.

Whatever one thinks of that assessment, it didn't make the cut in Clinton's heartfelt book. In the current climate, which may be unwise, it seems that no such official finding needed to apply! As with that jury verdict!

As Clinton's chapter proceeds, she wanders the countryside, flirting with an elephant in the room. At one point, on page 175, she says "the common theme that ran through all the stories was race." But two paragraphs later, she tells the story of Hadiya Pendleton, who "was randomly shot in a Chicago park" by a local teen who had lost his way in a way which had nothing to do with "race" in the sense a person might think from reading Clinton's chapter.

In this chapter, Clinton tells a bunch of stories, some perhaps a bit less honestly than some others. Personally, we think every progressive should deeply resent the way she toys with these stories.

Having said that, let us also say this about the notion that says "the common theme that ran through all the stories was race:"

The women Clinton names in her book had lost children in a wide array of incidents. It's never entirely clear, in Clinton's telling, why it seems that, among the nation's many mothers, only one demographic needed to apply to membership within the circle of Clinton's concern, in which she couldn't even manage to tell Trayvon Martin's story right.

Gun violence affects people from a wide array of groups. When it comes to our nation's police, police officers have shot and killed people from various groups, sometimes in plainly criminal ways, sometimes in ways which are justified.

Believe it or not, sometimes they've even shot and killed the others!

Clinton paraded around the country talking about gun violence. But when she offered her examples of same, individual stories were often mistold, and it almost seemed that only one group needed to apply for membership within her circle of concern.

Trust us! Those mothers would never have thought that way, of that you can be sure. Clinton, a politician who was seeking votes, rather frequently acted as if she did.

When we liberals behave that way, we turn our backs on centuries of American moral ideals—on the moral ideals which were advanced by giants of various "races." When we liberals behave that way, we seem to say that only one group need apply. To cite one example, we turn our backs on Bijan Ghaisar, who was shot and killed while driving away while being Iranian-American.

There have been other glaring cases in recent years. But if the cases involve the others, nobody says those names.

Is it possible that this conduct has us drifting in an unhealthy direction? Or do we get to invent and disappear facts, while stressing evocative points of total irrelevance? Shall we limit, as prehumans always have done, which groups get to apply?

Tomorrow: Examples and statistics

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  1. Somerby blames Clinton for the way these women have framed the stories of their sons deaths.

    That is about as dishonest as it gets.

    Somerby strongly suggests that Clinton is just another pol. He suggests her commitment to gun control is a political ploy.

    He misrepresents her "circle of concern," suggesting that it is Clinton who has distorted the stories told about these women's sons -- not the mothers and the black community that has distorted the facts to make the police more culpable.

    Then Somerby suggests that we liberals cannot see the way others perceive us. Somerby cannot see the mote in his own eye.

    Clinton didn't dictate the press coverage of these events. It isn't Clinton who places Sandra Bland, a woman who committed suicide while in prison, on the list of victims of police violence. It isn't up to Clinton to correct or confront these mothers with unpleasant facts about their children. Unsurprisingly, she doesn't do so. Neither does she shirk from telling the rest of the world that fewer guns would lead to less gun violence. And she has been as committed to this cause as anyone else. Moreso than Bernie, who received funding from the NRA and did not support these same efforts to reduce gun violence by groups like BLM. Clinton did not wish to embrace BLM but she did want to support the cause of reducing minority gun deaths, so she embraced the mothers, who are surely not perpetrators and who represent the concern we all have in reducing these deaths. She identified with the mothers and so do we all, if we have a heart.

    Somerby uses this to bash Clinton -- as if she were still running for anything and as if she needed bashing for yet another flaw in her weak and flawed campaign.

    What an ass Somerby is.

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  3. "Do we the modern liberals really have an "increasingly incoherent mix of orthodoxies?”"

    Quite frankly, most of you fellas are utter zombies.

    But Not you, Bob. You're a baaad liberal, just ask the dembots and lib-zombies servicing your comment sections.

    "More precisely, it makes us wonder if she really was "just another politician" making an especially insincere play for a batch of votes, and later for tribal respect."

    I don't think she's just another politician. I got the impression that she's a stone-cold psycho, which is not uncommon among them, but still noteworthy.

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    1. Mao, your position on liberals is incoherent.

      The Democratic party (the liberal party) has a platform that details the policies they support.

      Mao, please clarify the issues you have with their policies.

      I do have the sense, Mao, you do not like NAFTA. NAFTA was a bipartisan effort, negotiated and signed by both President Bush and President Clinton. NAFTA has been a boon to the US economy. Yes, it has probably had a negative effect on Russia, and for that I am sorry, but zero sum is the name of the game in capitalism. If you wish to immigrant to the US to enjoy the benefits of NAFTA, we would welcome you with open arms.

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  4. So according to Bob, Emmett Till was not murdered. Zimmerman's behavior after killing Trayvon Martin, aside from being sickening, betrays any innocence he achieved from the jury.

    The criticism towards Clinton seems as misguided as the complaints about Stormy Daniels. The interest in Stormy was not prurient, sex is all over the internet for free, anytime, for everybody. Clinton already had those demographics in the bag; additionally, there is nothing new about Clinton's support for suffering mothers.

    Bob is slick with his assessment of the DOJ report on the shooting of Michael Brown, which states:

    "The evidence, when viewed as a whole, does not support the conclusion that Wilson's uses of deadly force were 'objectively unreasonable' under the Supreme Court's definition"

    Darren Wilson's use of force may not have been 'objectively unreasonable' (which is further qualified by "under the Supreme Court's definition"), but Wilson made many bad decisions that led to the situation.

    Or did he?

    Bob does not like to blame and punish others, he is a determinist. It seems likely that Bob reads Sam Harris and even Victor Davis Hanson.

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  5. Al Franken said about Hillary Clinton: "She is the smartest, toughest, most hard working person I know. She would have made a terrific president."

    Al Franken hates lies (no matter who tells them) and lying liars. Yet he considers Clinton worthy of being president. He doesn't think of her as any sort of lying liar, the way Somerby likes to characterize her, the way the Republicans smeared her.

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  15. I never believed in Love Spells or Magics until I met this special spell caster when i went to Africa to Execute some business..He is really powerful..My husband divorce me with no reason for almost 4 years and i tried all i could to have him back cos i really love him so much but all my effort did not work out.. we met at our early age at the college and we both have feelings for each other and we got married happily for 5 years with no kid and he woke up one morning and he told me he’s going on a divorce..i thought it was a joke and when he came back from work he tender to me a divorce letter and he packed all him loads from my house..i ran mad and i tried all i could to have him back but all did not work out..i was lonely for almost 4 years…So when i told the spell caster what happened he said he will help me and he asked for him full name and him picture...i gave him that..At first i was skeptical but i gave it a try cos have tried so many spell casters and there is no solution…so when he finished with the readings,he got back to me that he’s with a woman and that woman is the reason why he left me…The spell caster said he will help me with a spell that will surely bring him back.but i never believe all this…he told me i will see a positive result within 3 days..3 days later,he called me himself and came to me apologizing and he told me he will come back to me..I cant believe this,it was like a dream cos i never believe this will work out after trying many spell casters and there is no solution..The spell caster is so powerful and after that he helped me with a pregnancy spell and i got pregnant a month later..we are now happy been together again and with lovely kid..This spell caster has really changed my life and i will forever thankful to him..he has helped many of my friends too with similar problem too and they are happy and thankful to him.This man is indeed the most powerful spell caster have ever experienced in life..Am Posting this to the Forum in case there is anyone who has similar problem and still looking for a way out..you can reach him here: drosemudiamenspellhome@gmail.com CONTACT THIS POWERFUL SPELL CASTER TODAY VIA EMAIL:drosemudiamenspellhome@gmail.com

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  16. Share this amazing testimony Dr.Sandy herbs help me to cure my HIV Disease and i have this HIV 6 months ago.. i had unprotected sex with a man i met and he did not tell me he had HIV disease after some weeks later i started seeing bump and sore on my vaginal, and i was so scared so i went to my doctor and did some test and behold i was confirmed HIV positive, i went home so confuse and frustrated about this, especially when i was told there was no permanent cure for it, i said to myself i need to research about this, maybe there might be a herbal medicine to cure this and help for me, and so i did and when i was researching about herbal medicne, i keep seeing Dr. Sandy on every blog and guestbook, facebook, youtub and some order comments on this illness called herpes 2 and Als HPV , so i immediately wrote to him on whatsapp and i see his facebook, after we discuss he prepared A herbal medicine and sent it to me with UPS post , within few days i received my medicine and started applying it as instructed within 2 weeks and some days Dr.Sandy told me to go for check up, and i did, shocking my result came out negative, i am so happy and thanks to Dr.Sandy, i dont pay for people to have this illness but someth like this come up with you i will ask you to contact his email address. dr.sandyspelltemple@gmail.com
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    A living dog is far better than a dead lion and a good health worth more than wealth famous, so please get back your health by getting in touch with DR.SANDY kindly get him contacted!!!!

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  17. Natural herbs have cured so many illness that drugs and injection cant cure. I've seen the great importance of natural herbs and the wonderful work they have done in people's lives. i read people's testimonies online on how they were cured of herpes, hiv, diabetics etc by Dr. Ogba Kosu herbal medicine, so i decided to contact the doctor because i know nature has the power to heal anything. I was diagnosed with hiv for the past 7 years but Dr. Ogba Kuso cured me with his herbs and i referred my aunt and her husband to him immediately because they were both suffering from herpes but to God be the glory, they were cured too .I know is hard to believe but am a living testimony. There is no harm trying herbs. He is also a spell caster, he cast spell to restore broken marriages and he cast good luck spells to prosper and excel in life. Contact Dr. Ogba Kosu on: drogbakosu@gmail.com
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  18. Share this amazing testimony Dr.Sandy herbs help me to cure my HIV Disease and i have this HIV 6 months ago.. i had unprotected sex with a man i met and he did not tell me he had HIV disease after some weeks later i started seeing bump and sore on my vaginal, and i was so scared so i went to my doctor and did some test and behold i was confirmed HIV positive, i went home so confuse and frustrated about this, especially when i was told there was no permanent cure for it, i said to myself i need to research about this, maybe there might be a herbal medicine to cure this and help for me, and so i did and when i was researching about herbal medicne, i keep seeing Dr. Sandy on every blog and guestbook, facebook, youtub and some order comments on this illness called herpes 2 and Als HPV , so i immediately wrote to him on whatsapp and i see his facebook, after we discuss he prepared A herbal medicine and sent it to me with UPS post , within few days i received my medicine and started applying it as instructed within 2 weeks and some days Dr.Sandy told me to go for check up, and i did, shocking my result came out negative, i am so happy and thanks to Dr.Sandy, i dont pay for people to have this illness but someth like this come up with you i will ask you to contact his email address. dr.sandyspelltemple@gmail.com
    dr.sandyspelltemple@hotmail.com
    dr.sandyspelltemple@yahoo.com OR
    call Whats App Number +2349031726182
    or facebook posg https://www.facebook.com/Drsandy-SPELL-HOME-2-226270587825982/
    A living dog is far better than a dead lion and a good health worth more than wealth famous, so please get back your health by getting in touch with DR.SANDY kindly get him contacted!!!!

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  19. I never thought that they will be a miracle on the internet until i came in contact with Dr Wakina, finally i made it with the help with his spiritual power which was recommended by a lady in baby center he help before, i never believe it was real until i confirm it now because i have tried so many hospitals doing all the test like FSH,ICSI,PCOS,HSG and get treated and other things to make sure i get pregnant but no luck, immediately i contact him. he did some spiritual prayers and send me a medicine which i took, i got pregnant three weeks after, and now i have a son to show. thank you so much Dr wakina and i recommend him to everyone out there who is having difficulties in getting a child of their own. contact him for help too he is real and powerful, i have confirmed it, contact him on email drwakinaspellhome@gmail.com and also his website http://wakinaspellhome.webs.com...

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  20. Glory be to God almighty for using tokubo to rescue my life. I know that so many people do not believe in herbal medicine but i want to prove to you that herbal medicine work very well because i have tested it and it work, i am a living testimony to this. I want the general public to know how this great man called Dr tokubo cure me from HPV with the herbal medicine gotten from Dr tokubo, he cures other diseases too like STD, My own was worst I have suffered for Human papilloma virus HPV) for 2 years he cure me too, herbal medicine is a great medication. he have a medicine that is 100% percent assured to cure any type of disease and you don't need to spend so much money anymore . I want you to contact Dr tokubo. My family is now a brand new one, so stop your worries and go get your herbal medicine now to get your family free from deadly disease. Once again thanks to Dr tokubo you can contact him now via email: drtokubotemple@gmail.com or you can whatsapp him on +2349037990322

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  21. Hello, I aM clinton nancy After being in relationship with Anderson for years, he broke up with me, I did everything possible to bring him back but all was in vain, I wanted him back so much because of the love I have for him, I begged him with everything, I made promises but he refused. I explained my problem to my friend and she suggested that I should rather contact a spell caster that could help me cast a spell to bring him back but I am the type that never believed in spell, I had no choice than to try it, I mailed the spell caster, and he told me there was no problem that everything will be okay before three days, that my ex will return to me before three days, he cast the spell and surprisingly in the second day, it was around 4 pm. My ex called me, I was so surprised, I answered the call and all he said was that he was so sorry for everything that happened that he wanted me to return to him, that he loves me so much. I was so happy and went to him that was how we started living together happily again. Since then, I have made promise that anybody I know that have a relationship problem, I would be of help to such person by referring him or her to the only real and powerful spell caster who helped me with my own problem. email: drogunduspellcaster@gmail.com you can email him if you need his assistance in your relationship or any other Case.

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  22. As usual with your trademark Bob-is-an-ass comments, the level of self-reverential idiocy approaches the surreal. To focus on only one index of same, please check this link for a clarification of how the eye-mote image that you allude to actually works:

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Mote_and_the_Beam

    Then once you remove the beam from your own ad hominem-happy eye, you might be able to help Bob remove whatever mote might be in his.

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  23. Hello everyone in this forum.i will keep sharing my experience with the great Dr Akuna of what he has done for me, He cured my girlfriend and myself HERPES SIMPLEX VIRUS 1 . we both has been suffering from HERPES VIRUS since we were in relationship one of us gave another for more than 3years until i got the email of this great herbal doctor from the internet and choose to give him a trial to see if he can really help me and my girlfriend. To my greatest surprise this man help me and my girlfriend with his herbal medicine and now my pains are all gone, we both visited the hospital to do some test and the result came out negative. finally we are both cured from HERPES SIMPLEX VIRUS 1 disease and i am very happy now, i will like you to email him if you are suffering from any STD or any kinds of disease on his email:drakunasolutiontemple@gmail.com or his Mobile:+2348154625070 or his website: https://drakunasolutiontempleofallkindsofsicknessistreated.wordpress.com/2017/12/08/about-me/

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  24. Effective love spell to get lost lover back/stop divorce/save broken marriage happylovespell2@gmail.com is the best on urgent love spell casting with 100% result guarantee
    Am Sai Vidhya from CA Usa my boyfriend cheated on me and asked for breakup. I don't believe at first i try to get back with him but all he told me was he’s with someone else. that he is no longer interested in marrying me at that point i was heart broken coz i love my boyfriend so much that i could not let go off him all of a sudden he left me, i really love him and never can imagine my life without him. not until i came across a powerful real spell caster Dr happy who promise me 48hours urgent love spell to get back with my boyfriend, good forty-eight {48} hours. hmm-mm, it was a good night time at 10:05pm within the days that Dr happy told me that my boyfriend will be back, at first i heard the bell rings getting close to my door i heard someone saying honey!!!, it sound familiar i opened the door and i saw my boyfriend standing and weeping in front of me. i was not surprised because its all i have been praying for him to come back home. Guess what in six days after i noticed my system and my body temperature is changed and i went to clinic for check up and the doctor told me that there is life in me which means i am pregnant i really wants to use this opportunity to thanks Dr happy so much and my lovely collage who directed me to Dr happy if you have any problem or predicament that is worse or exactly like this you have been into, i plead you to contact Dr happy on happylovespell2@gmail.com you can also view on his blogs site... https://happylovespell2.blogspot.com.ng/ whatsapp/call...+2348133873774

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  25. This is a true life experience with Doctor Ewan who helped me save my marriage by doing a pregnancy spell for me. My name is jenny clouds and i from somalia but currently live in manchester . my husband amd i have been married for over 6 years. We didn't have any children. My husband was not happy with this because we have tried for many years now to have a child that we thought of adopting but the idea wasn't the best for us. my husband even talked about divorce!! i was scared to loose my husband.3 months after my husband started talking about divorce, i saw a post on facebook which taled about a spell caster on how he helpes people from various problems and his name was Dr Ewan. I sent a mail to him through his email address covenantsolutiontemple@gmail.com, I explained everything to him and he told me not to worry. i was over excited, he comforted me with his words, he told me that we are going to do a pregnancy spell, i was scared but i had no choice. he told me what to do and i did it. he actually did the love spell, he gave me assurance that i will become pregnant in 2 days, i thought he was joking. this is the 11th month after meeting Dr Ewan, now i have a set of twins, a boy and a girl. God bless you Dr Ewan, thank you for what you have done for me, Please contact and meet Doctor Ewan if you are passing through any difficulty in life like the one i was passing through at covenantsolutiontemple@gmail.com and visit website at http://allwomenstalk.com/p/58034af4f725a97d108b4569 or call or add him on watsapp on +2349078040531. there are still real people out there helping people. covenantsolutiontemple@gmail.com is one of them.he also help in lottery winning too, if you want to win lottery now also contact him

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  26. Hello, i am Jessica Wayne from TX, USA. Life without my husband was a real mess for me and my children I am so happy to get my Ex back through the help of Dr Noble the spell caster . My greatest surprise was that 48 hours after the Doctor prepared the spell for me, my husband who has abandoned me for 4 years suddenly called me unexpectedly and am so happy that we have come to become one again through the help of Dr Noble and am so happy to be with my husband once again. Dr Noble is a very wonderful spell caster, you can contact him if you need his assistant because i know he can also help you. contact him through his email: templeofjoyandprosperity@gmail.com call him on or whatsapp +2348145643630 immediately

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  27. i am Rose from UNITED STATES i was diagnosed with HIV/AIDS for over 12 years which made loose my job and my relationship with my fiance after he discovered that i was having HIV, he departed from me i tried all my best to make him stays with me, but neglected me until a friend of mine on Facebook from Singapore told me Great healer, who will restore my life back with his powerful healing spell, he sent me the email address to contact and i quickly contacted him, and he said my condition can solved, that he will treat the disease immediately only if i can accept trust him and accept his terms and condition, i Agreed because i was so much in need of help by all means, so i did all he want from me and surprisingly on Sunday last week He sent me a text, that i should hurry up to the hospital for a checkup, which i truly did, i confirm from my doctor that i am now ( HIV NEGATIVE) my eyes filled with tears and joy, crying heavily because truly the disease deprived me of many things from my life, This is a Miracle, Please do not en-devour to email drtebe2@gmail.com or whatsapp Dr Tebe on +2348140544262 for healings Thanks

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  28. i am Rose from UNITED STATES i was diagnosed with HIV/AIDS for over 12 years which made loose my job and my relationship with my fiance after he discovered that i was having HIV, he departed from me i tried all my best to make him stays with me, but neglected me until a friend of mine on Facebook from Singapore told me Great healer, who will restore my life back with his powerful healing spell, he sent me the email address to contact and i quickly contacted him, and he said my condition can solved, that he will treat the disease immediately only if i can accept trust him and accept his terms and condition, i Agreed because i was so much in need of help by all means, so i did all he want from me and surprisingly on Sunday last week He sent me a text, that i should hurry up to the hospital for a checkup, which i truly did, i confirm from my doctor that i am now ( HIV NEGATIVE) my eyes filled with tears and joy, crying heavily because truly the disease deprived me of many things from my life, This is a Miracle, Please do not en-devour to email drtebe2@gmail.com or whatsapp Dr Tebe on +2348140544262 for healings Thanks

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  29. Best Online Spell Caster Reviwes
    My world was falling apart. My mind, for some reason, wont let go of the memory of My Wife. I had a very big problem with my wife few months ago, that lead to her leaving me. All efforts to get her back proved abortive. one day while going through the internet i saw so many testimony of this great man called Dr.Goodluck and how he helped people with all kinds of problem, his advert was everywhere,. Although I never believed in spell casting, but I had no choice than to give him a try so i contacted Him, I was so desperate to have my wife back with me once again. So I did all he told me to do. He told me that my wife will come back to me in the next 17hours after the spell is completed. I was skeptical. He casted the spell for me and i was so anxious waiting to see or hear from her, it was just 14hours after the spell was done my wife called and said she was coming HOME and she was asking for forgiveness for her ever hurting me before…..It was a dream come through for me!!! that was how my family and relationship was save and our relationship is now stronger than ever.my advice to you out there facing same problem or even worst then mine cry no more and contact this great man called Dr Goodluck He is capable of handling any kind of problem.
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  30. Hello am Haruna Babel,I am out here to spread this good news to the entire world on how I got my ex husband back.I was going crazy when my husband left me and my two kids for another woman last month, But when i met a friend that introduced me to Dr UZOYA. I narrated my problem to Dr UZOYA about how my ex Husband left me and my two kids and also how i needed to get a job in a very big company.He only said to me that i have come to the right place were i will be getting my heart desire without any side effect.He told me what i need to do,After it was all done,24 hours later, My Ex Husband called me on the phone and was saying sorry for living me and the kids before now and one week after my Husband called me to be pleading for forgiveness,I was called for interview in a very big company here in USA were i needed to work as the managing director.. you can contact Dr UZOYA through the following mean Email: driraborspellcaster@gmail.com Mobile Number: +1 301-909-8775 i will forever be grateful to you Dr,UZOYA

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  31. Greetings to the general public, i want to tell about how i was cured of HERPES disease by a Doctor called DR.EHIMAREI was browsing through the Internet searching for remedy on HERPES and i saw comment of people talking about how Doctor EHIMARE cured them. I Was scared because i never believed in the Internet but i was convince to give him a try because i having no hope of been cured of HERPES so i decided to contact him with his email that was listed on the comment (DR.EHIMAREHERBALHOME@GMAIL.COM) Or call him +2348109792351 when i contacted him he gave me hope and send a Herbal medicine to me that i took and it seriously worked for me, am a free person now without problem, my HERPES result came out negative. I pray for you DR.EHIMARE God will give you everlasting life, you shall not die before your time for being a sincere and grate man. Am so happy, you can also contact him if you have any problem Email: DR.EHIMAREHERBALHOME@GMAIL.COM or whatsApp him on this number +2348109792351

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  32. May God bless this wonderful Dr Akuna for what he has done for me, 7 years ago i met with a unknown stranger we met in the club we had fun and i went drunk and we had unprotected sex, i never knew this man had HIV AIDS. 4 month later i was having headache and scratches and fever and always getting sick, it was not easy for me, but i thank God for directing my footsteps to Dr Akuna, he gave me instructions and i followed and in 2 weeks i was completely cured after testing my statue i was HIV AIDS NEGATIVE. Contact Dr Akuna for more information. Email: drakunasolutiontemple@gmail.com or CALL/WHATAPP HIM:+2347154625070 or visit web: https://drakunasolutiontempleofallkindsofsicknessistreated.wordpress.com/2017/12/08/about-me/ or visit:http://drakunasolutiontempleofallcureandspell.website2.me/contact

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  33. Hello Dr Suku is real and he's powerful herbal treatment..After been in pain and sorrow for over 7years it was Dr.SUKU that cured me from Hepatitis B Virus, I got infected with Hepatitis B Disease in 2010 and I have visited several herbalists, spiritualists and pastors for cure me but all was in avail, my world was gradually coming to an end until i saw a post in a health forum about a herbal medicine from Africa who have and herbal medicine to cure all kinds of deadly diseases including HERPES ,WALTER,HIV AIDS, ALS, HPV, MND, Epilepsy, Leukemia, Asthma, Cancer, Ghonorhea,Hepatitis B etc, at first i doubted if it was real but decided to give it a try, when i contact this herbalist via his email, drsukuherbalhome@gmail.com he prepared a herbal medicine portion and sent it to me via DHL Delivery when i received this herbal medicine portion, he gave me step by step instructions on how to apply it, when i applied it as instructed, i was cured of this deadly disease within 2 weeks, I am now Hepatitis B Negative. all thanks to Dr.SUKU Contact this great herbalist called Dr.SUKU his email: drsukuherbalhome@gmail.com or
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  34. Greetings to the general public, i want to tell about how i was cured of HIV/AIDS disease by a Doctor called Dr Agbebaku. I was browsing through the Internet searching for remedy on HIV and i saw comment of people talking about how Doctor Agbebaku cured them. I Was scared because i never believed in the Internet but i was convince to give him a try because i having no hope of been cured of HIV/AIDS so i decided to contact him with his email that was listed on the comment dragbebakuspellsolutiontemple@gmail.com when i contacted him he gave me hope and send a Herbal medicine to me that i took and it seriously worked for me, am a free person now without problem, my HIV result came out negative. I pray for you Dr Agbebaku God will give you everlasting life, you shall not die before your time for being a sincere and great men. Am so happy, you can also contact him if you have any problem E-mail him dragbebakuspellsolutiontemple@gmail.com or Add him up on WhatsApp +2349053099479 or call +2349035850834 .

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