NO OTHERS NEED APPLY: Concerning a survey we'd like to see!


Part 1—About an important topic:
Out of general curiosity, there's a certain survey we'd like to see.

Actually, there are at least two. Out of general curiosity, we'd also like to see a survey in which respondents get asked how much they think cable news hosts get paid.

Let's set that survey aside for now. Let's turn to a different survey.

For this week, the survey we would like to see concerns a different important topic. It concerns the question of police shootings—more specifically, the questions of police shootings in terms of so-called race.

Sometimes, people get shot and killed by police. For the record, a clear majority of police officers won't shoot anyone today.

Sometimes, though, such events do occur. Such events are of course important.

It can also be argued that such events have perhaps become grist for the occasional mill. This is especially true with respect to the topic C-Span recently explored, "Police Shootings and Race."

Right away, let it be said that "race" can be seen as a murky concept.

The belief that we have several "races" of people in this country comes to us, live and direct, from "the world the slaveholders made." The concept, as these intellectual giants devised it, generally turns on questions of "skin color" and ancestry.

We liberals all know we should generally say that there's no such thing as "race." We also tend to cling to the wisdom of the slaveholders in much the same way that lichens may cling to a favorite rock.

In our current state of awareness, we may tend to make little distinction between two distinct concepts. We know that people get treated as if they belong to a race. We know that people have been so treated all through the annals of American history.

We're less likely to be clear on a second question. Do we ourselves believe that a person belongs to a "race?" And if so, in what does that membership consist?

In the modern liberal world, these questions generally get swept aside. We insist that everyone belongs to a race; that we get to say what that race is; and that this membership defines their "identity," which we bestow on their heads.

We cling to the concept the slaveholders made. No one seems to admire Ole Massa's wisdom quite the way we do!

Having offered these apologies, we return to the survey we'd like to see. That survey would involve police shootings and so-called race.

Essentially, police shootings have been in the news since the death of Trayvon Martin, who of course wasn't shot by police. But in the wake of Martin's death, other shooting deaths occurred:

Michael Brown was shot and killed by a police officer. So was Tamir Rice. Such incidents have played a large role in the news in recent years, thought one apparent rule obtains:

When it comes to high-profile shootings by police, no others need apply!

What do we mean by that award-winning nostrum? Only this:

When "blacks" are shot and killed by police, a great deal of attention is paid. When "whites" and Hispanics are shot by police, even in plainly ridiculous ways, it may seem that nobody cares.

Attention is paid to the one type of incident, as of course should be the case. The other incidents are ignored. No other "race" need apply!

(Your lizard is saying that 1) our claims are crazily wrong, and/or 2) that we're ignoring the obvious reasons for this selective attention. In this case, as in several others, we'll suggest the possibility that your lizard is wrong.)

Back to the survey we seek! As a possible starting point, we wonder how respondents would react to a question like this:
Possible survey question:
According to the Washington Post, police officers shot and killed 223 African-Americans in the year 2017.

As far as you know, did police officers shoot and kill any "whites" during that year? If so, can you give an estimate as to a possible number?
No, seriously! For starters, we wonder how many people would be inclined to think that no so-called "whites" were shot and killed by police last year.

We offer a bit of background:

Presumably, most people have never examined the numbers compiled by the Washington Post or by any other org. They're unlikely to have seen any such data at any of their favorite news orgs, even on cable news.

(Dearest darlings, use your heads! Presentation of data on cable news? Such things simply aren't done!)

Presumably, most people have never stopped to think about the questions we've posted above. Still and all, we'll guess that a certain number of people would be inclined to say that no "white" people were shot and killed by police last year.

Would some people be so inclined? If that is true, the following survey question might be better equipped to elicit that fact:
Possible survey question:
In a number of high-profile incidents, police officers have shot and killed African-Americans in recent years, including last year.

As far as you know, did police officers shoot and kill any "whites" last year? If so, can you give an estimate as to a possible number?
If we don't put our thumb on the scale by including a number in our question, we might find that people are more likely to say that there were so such incidents—to show that's what they tend to believe.

While we're at it, let's imagine a third way of asking our question. It night go exactly like this:
Possible survey question:
In a number of high-profile incidents, police officers have shot and killed unarmed African-Americans in recent years, including last year.

As far as you know, did police officers shoot and kill any unarmed "whites" last year? If so, can you give an estimate as to a possible number?
Police shootings which involve unarmed victims have gained special attention. We'd be curious to see how respondents would answer a question about those particular cases.

Your lizard is saying that it's misleading to focus on the numbers alone with respect to this fraught topic. That may well be true. We'll consider that question before the week is done.

That said, we'll suggest, once again, that you should consider ignoring your lizard just this once. For today, we're simply wondering what people think about the frequency of these types of occurrence—about the frequency of police shootings in terms of so-called race.

Long ago and far away, many different types of groups were told, in various ways, that they need not apply for the fruits of citizenship. No one was treated more brutally than Americans of African descent.

Is it possible that this historical fact may perhaps sometimes lead to a type of "over-correction?" Has it possibly led to a world in which we liberals think your identity is determined by your "race," and that it only matters if people of certain "identities" get shot and killed by police?

Is it possible that we've come to think that others need not apply?

Is it possible that that's what we have come to think? Your lizard is bouncing off walls inside his cave as we pose this thoughtful question. On just this one occasion, is it possible that your lizard is wrong?

Is it even dimly possible? That when it comes to shooting deaths by police, no others need apply—not even Hispanics and Muslims?

Tomorrow: Did this recent headline possibly come from the world the slaveholders made?


  1. Excellent column by Bob. An additional point would be number police shootings of Asians. Asians are shot at a lower frequency than whites. Is that because police are prejudiced against whites and in favor of Asians? No, it's clearly because Asian less frequently behave in ways that lead to being shot by police. This illustrates the general proposition that the frequency with which a group of people are shot by police is affected by the behavior of this group.

    1. Also affected by the behavior of the group doing the shooting. For instance, the piss poor training of police officers is a big part of this problem. Also, waving away any accountability for bad police work, because "Blue Lives Matter", or other such bullshit, affects the group behavior as well.

    2. They are a much smaller % of the population in the USA than blacks are.

      Do you not know that there are Asian gangs in Los Angeles and other cities with large Asian populations (Garden Grove, Santa Ana, San Diego)? Your persistence in considering Asians the "model minority" blinds you to actual problems among Asians in our society.

  2. "Is it even dimly possible? That when it comes to shooting deaths by police, no others need apply—not even Hispanics and Muslims?"

    You know the answer, Bob, just like everyone else. The only way liberal elites manage to cling to power is by inciting racial hatred.

    A major segment of their (your?) electoral base - self-identified 'African Americans' - need to be instilled with victimhood mindset. That's critical. And that's all there's to it. Politics.

    1. It comes from a deep place psychologically. Liberals think of themselves as weak. So they try to identify with other groups that they think think are weak. They project the victimhood on the minority groups. But still, as is obvious, the Republicans are so ridiculous and so exploitative and greedy that the minority groups will side with the Democrats projection of victimhood, weakness and helplessness over the bad faith and the lies of the Republicans .

    2. I don't know what "liberals think of themselves" in general. The true believers think, I suppose, what all true believers think of themselves: that they're virtuous and righteous.

      As for "exploitative and greedy", I don't know what could be more exploitative and greedy than globalist efforts to de-industrialize their own country by chasing cheap labor all over the world, and to bring masses of desperate people from abroad to compete for jobs with their working-class citizens. And this process is managed, for the most part, by the liberal elite.

    3. And Republicans are just dragged along kicking and screaming by Democrats into the vicious world of globalism? Pull your head out of your ass you fucking stupid faggot. You're boring. Stick your dim, binary scapegoating up your ass.

    4. ' don't know what could be more exploitative and greedy '

      How about a Russian Troll named 'Mao' trying to earn a paycheck from Uncle Vova ?

    5. Trump tariffs protect Ivanka's overseas businesses. But ........

      Trump: "Farmers are great patriots. These are great patriots. They understand that they're doing this for the country."

      — Josh Marshall (@joshtpm) April 9, 2018

  3. Somerby keeps buying into the notion that slaveholders invented the concept of race. They may have used it, but it wasn't invented by them.

    Here is a better description of where our ideas about race come from:

  4. Somerby says: "Long ago and far away, many different types of groups were told, in various ways, that they need not apply for the fruits of citizenship. No one was treated more brutally than Americans of African descent."

    I take issue with this statement. There have been any number of examples of people treated more brutally than African Americans. Aboriginal Americans were treated more brutally. Chinese working on the railroads were treated more brutally. Hispanic people occupying certain areas of the Western states were treated more brutally, including lynchings, rapes, and other mistreatment. Hispanic and Indian people enslaved at the missions were treated more brutally. The mentally ill were treated more brutally.

    There is no point in saying stuff like this. It has prevented African Americans from finding common cause with other oppressed groups. It doesn't weaken the legitimacy of complaints about brutality to know that other people have been treated badly too. But there is no unique mistreatment suffered by African Americans that has not been suffered by other people in our nation's past.

  5. "(Your lizard is saying that 1) our claims are crazily wrong, and/or 2) that we're ignoring the obvious reasons for this selective attention. In this case, as in several others, we'll suggest the possibility that your lizard is wrong.)"

    Well, that's the end of that discussion. "If you disagree with me, it's just your lizard brain talking."

    Did you insult your pupils like this when you were a teacher, Bob?

  6. People who push back against the racist thinking of the "slaveholders" are pushing back because the racist thinking of the slaveholders still exists, and may be on the rise. When this racist thinking leads to racially discriminatory laws and policies, it has to be opposed precisely because it is racially discriminatory.

    1. White women earn 83 cents on the white male dollar. Black women earn 68 cents. Latina women earn 53 cents. Focusing only on a black/white racial disparity neglects other groups that have encountered discrimination too.

    2. Liberals don't focus solely on a black/white disparity. It is one disparity among others. Somerby is specifically talking about racial issues in his post here, and he criticizes the very notion of looking at race.

      If you research his blog, you will see that he has also criticized liberals for worrying about the wage gap between men and women.

    3. Somerby explicitly gives primacy to black racial issues. I realize that liberals in general think more broadly. I am addressing Somerby, not liberals.

    4. Anon 2:24 wrote "White women earn 83 cents on the white male dollar. Black women earn 68 cents. Latina women earn 53 cents."

      These ratios are NOT proof of discrimination. Any subgroup will earn more or less than white males due to their culture and behavior. E.g., Mormons, Hindus and Jews earn considerably more than average. But, it would be foolish to conclude that there's discrimination in favor of Jews, Hindus and Mormons.

    5. "If you research his blog, you will see that he has also criticized liberals for worrying about the wage gap between men and women."

      Yeah, looked into this.

      Somerby criticized MISSTATING the gap. You may disagree with exactly what the gap is, and what explains it, but you're making shit up when you say Somerby opposed worrying about wage gaps.

  7. Yesterday, Somerby was anguished about the low achievement of black students relative to white students in our schools. He showed that the achievement gaps persist even when income level is factored in. He says we don't really care about black kids. But today, he criticizes liberals for adhering to the whole notion of "race", because it is a harmful notion stemming from the "world the slaveholders made."

    How can you deal with those "black kids" that Somerby so deeply cares about without treating them as a separate group, AS "black" kids? Their problems to a certain extent stem from that "world the slaveholders made", and cannot be viewed entirely outside that context.

    Somerby likes to chastise "liberals" for focusing on race as if the focus on race were merely a way to attack conservatives. But in order to care about those black kids, you have to include that aspect in order to search for solutions.

  8. I think Somerby is trying to suggest that everyone thinks shootings of unarmed black people are more frequent because they get a lot of media attention. He is wrong about that, depending on what people watch in different localities.

    For example, I live in the Los Angeles area. We have footage of the guy from Sacramento who was shot recently, but we also had local coverage of the white homeless man who was shot in Venice Beach for attacking a woman in a café, and the recent trial of the police officer who shot the white schizophrenic man who was wielding a knife. We hear about the white shootings on our local TV news shows. They don't make it to cable because they are not seen as part of a larger national issue, but rather are part of unfortunate local policing, addressed via our citizen oversight of the police commission, and other avenues. Somerby is unaware of this stuff because he lives in Baltimore area. That doesn't mean it doesn't exist and it does affect our impressions of who gets shot.

    I don't know anyone who watches Rachel Maddow but doesn't watch local news.

    1. Same Guy, Different ReplyApril 9, 2018 at 6:57 PM

      "Somerby is trying to suggest that everyone thinks shootings of unarmed black people are more frequent..."

      That's not what I saw here. I saw Somerby saying, he'd like someone to actually research what people think they know about shootings.

      I would also like to know what people think they know about this.

      I would be unsurprised if people turn out to largely misinformed. But perhaps I'm wrong and people know exactly what's going on.

      This type of research can be valuable. Similar questions have been asked, for example about taxation: "Did your federal tax rate go up, or down, or stay the same while Mr. X (Y, Z) was President?" Turns out, people hardly knew anything.

    2. I agree. But the bigger question is, why are cops shooting people at all? Local cops shouldn’t be armed with fatal weapons as far as I’m concerned. If police encounter a situation they can’s de-escalate on their own, only then should even the notion of fatal force (backup) be brought to bear. As a white guy, I’m afraid of anyone who carries a gun openly, and much more so when they can throw me in jail or kill me “justifiably,” which explains why someone might run away. It doesn’t explain why cops would shoot someone in the back. What are the stats on that, “race-wise,” I wonder?

      Cops are actually afraid, and rightfully so, because our nation is swimming in guns, and this results in tragedies. Thanks, NRA! And thank you, Scalia Your “originalist” interpretation of the 2nd Amendment only exacerbated the problems of our bang bang culture.


  9. Save your marriage with urgent return love spell to get lost lover back... I'm here today to say thanks to Dr.happy for the happiness he brought to my marriage
    well!! I'm Cassie Tiffany from texas, USA...I just found out about my husband cheating on me with a co-worker! We’ve been married going on two years. 2kids. lots of amazing momments together. i want to leave, but i love him so much. all i can think about is how nothing stopped him. how he has to see her everyday because they work together. we are both still young and very attractive. but i want my husband, my friend, and the father of my beautiful children. how do i get past the thought of another woman having my husband? Not my fiancé, not my boyfriend, but my husband! i still love him even though he thinks i want to leave i really want him to do better and stop me before i walk out! my husband told me that he doesn’t feel loved anymore, just because of this co-worker he has be cheating on with me that he wants a divorce, i was devastated, heart broken i begged him to listen to me that we can work it out like we always do, but he didn’t listen, he told me that he met someone that loves and understands him, i begged him to consider our kids but he’s did listen. he left and i was frustrated, i began searching for help and answers, then i heard about a man that can Cast a spell to remind him of all the things we have been through together, at first I was scared then i decided to give it a try, and like magic my husband came back, apology and begging for forgiveness, thanks to this man, I’m posting this to help people with similar issues. You can contact him for help too. for more details Whatsapp and call...+2348133873774 You can also view on his Blogs site...

  10. AnonymousApril 9, 2018 at 3:25 PM - police shootings of whites are local news. Police shootings of blacks are regional or national news.

    1. Shut the fuck up you broken record and quit pretending you give a shit about anyone other than rich white people.

    2. David is real big on tough love and strong discipline for young black students, but a criminal degenerate lying sack of shit fraud conman repugnant racist prick president is just dandy by him.

  11. Dear priest ogidiga, Thanks for everything. You are the best among all the spellcasters I tried these last months. They gave me little results but none of them did what you done. I hardly believe this but you just fulfilled my dream. I say it again: You are the best my husband is back. any one look for help should visit him on email him on [M I R A C L E C E N T E R 1 1 0 @ G M A I L . C O M] or whatsapp at + 2 3 4 8 1 8 2 2 6 0 9 8 2
    Monica Fay.

  12. Best Online Spell Caster Reviwes
    My world was falling apart. My mind, for some reason, wont let go of the memory of My Wife. I had a very big problem with my wife few months ago, that lead to her leaving me. All efforts to get her back proved abortive. one day while going through the internet i saw so many testimony of this great man called Dr.Goodluck and how he helped people with all kinds of problem, his advert was everywhere,. Although I never believed in spell casting, but I had no choice than to give him a try so i contacted Him, I was so desperate to have my wife back with me once again. So I did all he told me to do. He told me that my wife will come back to me in the next 17hours after the spell is completed. I was skeptical. He casted the spell for me and i was so anxious waiting to see or hear from her, it was just 14hours after the spell was done my wife called and said she was coming HOME and she was asking for forgiveness for her ever hurting me before…..It was a dream come through for me!!! that was how my family and relationship was save and our relationship is now stronger than advice to you out there facing same problem or even worst then mine cry no more and contact this great man called Dr Goodluck He is capable of handling any kind of problem.
    Contact him with his Email him at:
    Call or Whats-app him: +2348138654465

  13. Urgent effective love Spell caster to help you bring back ex lover & save you marriage fast, is certainly the best spell caster online and his result is 100% guarantee!..a whole lot of people are still suffering from all manner of issues of life. What is that particular thing that bothers you? Sometimes, the problem is not the problem but the problem is the inability to identify those who have the solution. I am Jessica Jackson from Edinburgh United Kingdom and I like to introduce you to Dr Purity a man who is come to rescue humanity from all issues of life. Ever since the day I had an encounter with him, that was the day my problem got terminated. When wisdom is blinking, it becomes a word for the wise. I would encourage you to relate whatsoever problem you are facing with Dr Purity and be rest assured that with God all things would work together for your good. You can contact Dr Purity via email: I congratulate you as you do so, indeed you are the next can also call him or add him on Whats-app: +2348070980389.


  14. This is a true life experience with Doctor Ewan who helped me save my marriage by doing a pregnancy spell for me. My name is jenny clouds and i from somalia but currently live in manchester . my husband amd i have been married for over 6 years. We didn't have any children. My husband was not happy with this because we have tried for many years now to have a child that we thought of adopting but the idea wasn't the best for us. my husband even talked about divorce!! i was scared to loose my husband.3 months after my husband started talking about divorce, i saw a post on facebook which taled about a spell caster on how he helpes people from various problems and his name was Dr Ewan. I sent a mail to him through his email address, I explained everything to him and he told me not to worry. i was over excited, he comforted me with his words, he told me that we are going to do a pregnancy spell, i was scared but i had no choice. he told me what to do and i did it. he actually did the love spell, he gave me assurance that i will become pregnant in 2 days, i thought he was joking. this is the 11th month after meeting Dr Ewan, now i have a set of twins, a boy and a girl. God bless you Dr Ewan, thank you for what you have done for me, Please contact and meet Doctor Ewan if you are passing through any difficulty in life like the one i was passing through at and visit website at or call or add him on watsapp on +2349078040531. there are still real people out there helping people. is one of them.he also help in lottery winning too, if you want to win lottery now also contact him

  15. Effective powerful love spell to get your Ex lover back urgently after breakup/divorce!.
    Hi everyone,
    I'm so excited. My ex-boyfriend is back after a breakup, I’m extremely happy that will are living together again.
    My boyfriend of a 4yr just broke up with me and am 30 weeks pregnant. I have cried myself to sleep most of the nights and don’t seem to concentrate during lectures sometimes I stay awake almost all night thinking about him and start to cry all over again. Because of this I end up not having energy for my next day’s classes, my attendance has dropped and am always in uni and on time. Generally he is a very nice guy, he ended it because he said we were arguing a lot and not getting along. He is right we’ve been arguing during the pregnancy a lot .After the break up I kept ringing him and telling him I will change. I am in love with this guy and he is the best guy I have ever been with. I’m still hurt and in disbelief when he said he didn’t have any romantic feelings towards me anymore that hurt me faster than a lethal syringe. He texts me now and then mainly to check up on how am doing with the pregnancy, he is supportive with it but it’s not fair on me, him texting me as I just want to grieve the pain and not have any stress due to the pregnancy.
    I was really upset and I needed help, so I searched for help online and I came across a website that suggested that Dr Ahmed can help solve marital problems, restore broken relationships and so on. So, I felt I should give him a try. I contacted him and he told me what to do and I did it then he did a spell for me. 17 hours later, my bf came to me and apologized for the wrongs he did and promise never to do it again. Ever since then, everything has returned back to normal. I and my bf are living together happily again...
    All thanks to Dr Ahmed if you have any problem contact Dr Ahmed now and I guarantee you that he will help you. Here’s his contact. Email him at: Call/what’s-app him: +2348160153829

  16. Hello,

    I'm Dr Ogudugu a real and genuine spell caster with years of experience in spell casting and an expert in all spells, i specialize exclusively in LOVE SPELL/GET YOUR EX LOVER BACK, FRUIT OF THE WOMB SPELL, HIV CURE SPELL, BECOMING A MERMAID SPELL, BECOMING A VAMPIRE SPELL, SAVE CHILD BIRTH SPELL. If you have any problem and you need a real and genuine spell caster to solve your problems, contact me now through my personal Email Address...Note-you can also Call and WhatsApp.

    Contact me -
    Phone No: +2348139793075
    WhatsApp No: +2348139793075