BREAKING: Gene Robinson's total tribal war!

FRIDAY, MAY 25, 2018

You aren't allowed to know:
What did Stefan Halper do?

At this point, we the people have no ultimate way to know. We do know what the Washington Post and the New York Times have reported that Halper did—unless we're liberals, that is.

We liberals aren't allowed to know what Halper apparently did! This has been going on for a week. The deception is just getting deeper.

We liberals are now engaged in a great semantic war. Their team says that Halper "spied," and ours says "not so." But we aren't allowed to hear what Halper actually did, as reported by the two newspapers we normally treat as gospel.

(He or someone else may have done more, of course.)

How do we know that we liberals can't know? Last night, one of our tribe's most trusted corporate minders thought we should hear only this:
MADDOW (5/24/18): Today, there was an absolutely unprecedented meeting in Washington...

I mean, there was the president's chief of staff and the president's lead lawyer in the Russia scandal convening what ended up being two meetings today, because the White House and Republicans demanded to see information from a confidential source who'd been used by the FBI to gather evidence in the early days of their still ongoing investigation. Specifically, that source was sent by the FBI to talk to three people in the Trump campaign that the FBI believed were in contact with Russian agents who were in the process of interfering in the election.
Amazing, isn't it? You aren't allowed to know!

"Specifically," Maddow said, "that source was sent by the FBI to talk to three people in the Trump campaign." It all sounds so conventional, so innocent, unremarkable, normal and pure!

Unfortunately, this brings us to the specific actions Maddow didn't mention.

"Specifically," the Post and the Times have both reported that the FBI's source didn't simply "talk to three people." Each paper has reported that he spoke to three people in a surreptitious manner, even going so far as to pay Papadopoulos $3000 to fly across the Atlantic Ocean to discuss a research paper in which the source was feigning interest.

(According to the two newspapers, Papadopoulos was even sent to have drinks a "young woman assistant." Did anyone ever interact with this guy without this familiar old story element floating around?)

This surreptitious behavior helps explain why the source's conduct will strike some people as being a kissin' cousin to "spying." For that reason, you aren't allowed to know what the source's apparently did.

You're allowed to hear that he "talked to" three people. You aren't allowed to know that he deceived them when he did.

(As to what else he might have done, we of course can't know about that.)

Maddow blew right past the basic facts in the Post and Times news reports. More typically, she now stages extended public readings of the Times' latest explosive report—but only if the explosive report is favorable to our glorious "resistance."

In this case, she didn't think you needed to know what the source apparently did. And in this morning's Washington Post, Gene Robinson carried this rank deception to a point of pure Pravdaism.

Maddow pretended to explain what Halper "specifically" did. Robinson pretends to tell us what "really happened." Please say hello to Big Brother:
ROBINSON (5/25/18): Witness how Trump is trying to use the word “spy” as a weapon against the FBI, the Justice Department and special counsel Robert S. Mueller III’s investigation of Russian interference in the election. The president’s performance this week has been totally dishonest—and, let’s be honest, quite effective.

Here is what really happened, as far as we know: In 2016, the FBI saw what it believed were Russian attempts to interfere with the U.S. election, including contacts with three Trump campaign advisers. Alarmed and needing to know more—but not wanting to publicly investigate the campaign, which could be prejudicial against Trump—agents asked a retired college professor named Stefan A. Halper to touch base with those advisers to see what he could find out. Halper did so. Two of the advisers, Carter Page and Sam Clovis, have spoken publicly about the encounters and described them as innocuous.
Halper "touched base" with three advisers! After scolding Trump for being "totally dishonest," Robinson takes his turn at the ancient game.

"Here is what really happened, as far as we know," Robinson says. He goes on to tell us much less than his own newspaper, the Washington Post, says it knows.

Like Maddow and everyone else before him, Robinson omits the deceptions and the duplicitous conduct of the "retired college professor" who "touched base" with the three advisers, none of whom were approached in a forthright manner. In this way, Robinson is able to swear on a stack of Pravdas that no "spying" occurred:
ROBINSON (continuing directly): Here is what happened, according to Trump: “Spygate!”

Trump has consistently and cleverly referred to Halper as a “spy,” rather than an “informant,” which is what he really was.
According to this second minder, Trump says Halper was a spy—but he really was just an informant!

That is a semantic claim—a claim about the most accurate way to describe what occurred. That said, Robinson pimps his claim by refusing to tell you what his own newspaper has reported about what really happened.

He tells you that Halper just "touched base." So aboveboard, innocent, pure!

This has now been going on for just under a week. Robinson was willing to use Halper's name today, but you simply aren't allowed to hear what Halper apparently did. (As far as we know, no one has denied the accuracy of the account in the Post and the Times.)

If the reports by the Post and the Times are correct, did Halper do something wrong? That is a matter of judgment.

By now, though, we are engaged in a great tribal war, and our tribe no longer has use for judgment. Instead, we want to insist that "spy" is just crazily wrong, and that "informant" is perfect.

As with Pravda, so too here. The party line must prevail, even if elementary facts must be disappeared.

Robinson's column should shock the senses. (Trump, of course, is disordered, ill, deranged.) Because we're engaged in a great tribal war, there's no real chance that it will.

That said, how about it? Did Halper "spy" on Papadopoulos? As far as we know, not exactly, but we'd say he came somewhat close.

He misled Papadopoulos, paid him money, lured him across the ocean and burned his time, all on false pretenses. Rather than explain why the FBI did that, Big Brothers like Gene are simply going to keep you from hearing what he did.

Rachel told you what the informant "specifically" did. Robinson told you what "really happened."

At that point, each of the corporate liberal stars proceeded to play you. This is where the discourse goes when one side knows it has lost a large chunk of the public's trust and can't win a debate straight up.

Robinson has done this sort of thing before. Absent full-court supervision, Maddow shouldn't be on the air.

Just like on The Americans: A third party is floating around during the trip to London. This is what Robinson's paper reported about the trip, which was arranged on false pretenses:
COSTA, LEONNIG, HAMBURGER AND BARRETT (5/19/18): The professor invited Papadopoulos to come to London later that month to discuss the paper, offering to pay the costs of his travel. "I understand that this is rather sudden but thought given your expertise, it might be of interest to you," he wrote.

Papadopoulos accepted. While in London, he met for drinks with a woman who identified herself as the professor's assistant, before meeting on Sept. 15 with the professor at the Traveler's Club, a 200-year-old private club that is a favorite of foreign diplomats stationed in London, according to the emails described to The Post.
This is what the New York Times reported:
GOLDMAN, MAZZETTI AND ROSENBERG (5/19/18): Mr. Papadopoulos accepted the offer and arrived in London two weeks later, where he met for several days with the academic and one of his assistants, a young woman.

Over drinks and dinner one evening at a high-end London hotel, the F.B.I. informant raised the subject of the hacked Democratic National Committee emails that had spilled into public view earlier that summer, according to a person familiar with the conversation. The source noted how helpful they had been to the Trump campaign, and asked Mr. Papadopoulos whether he knew anything about Russian attempts to influence the 2016 presidential election.

Mr. Papadopoulos replied that he had no insight into the Russian campaign—despite being told months earlier that the Russians had dirt on Mrs. Clinton in the form of thousands of her emails. His response clearly annoyed the informant, who tried to press Mr. Papadopoulos about what he might know about the Russian effort, according to the person.

The assistant also raised the subject of Russia and the Clinton emails during a separate conversation over drinks with Mr. Papadopoulos, and again he denied he knew anything about Russian attempts to disrupt the election.
Just a question:

Do you feel sure you understand the role of that "young woman assistant" with whom Papadopoulos met for drinks even before meeting Halper? Just what makes you feel so sure? Because you believe in Rachel and the specificity she stands for?

Could this have been like on The Americans? What makes you feel so sure?

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  1. "(Trump, of course, is disordered, ill, deranged.)"

    Nervous, Bob? Scared of getting purged from the Zombie Party? Yeah, keep signaling loyalty, that'll help for sure.

    "Amazing, isn't it? You aren't allowed to know!"

    Nothing amazing here, at all. You, zombies are not capable of 'knowing'. Just follow the sound.

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    1. This whole thing is out of Alice and Wonderland - though that's pretty much the way things usually are (that was Lewis Carroll's point I would assume). The FBI "spies" all the time. There are a lot of people serving long prison terms when entrapped (legally according to the courts) by FBI or police agents. Undercover cops infiltrate criminal or suspected criminal organizations - surely that qualifies as spying. I don't like Trump in the least (though he isn't wrong about everything he does or says) - I think it is real bad he got elected (though who knows, maybe we will be great again like in the good old days). I think the "chase" is probably not a helpful thing, focusing on obscure Russian contacts, without explaining what difference any of them make. If we want to get rid of Trump the way to do it is vote him out of office - impeachment, unless Mueller or somebody comes up with something a lot more than whatever has been disclosed so far - seems a bad idea. It would rip the country apart more, and we would wind up with Pence who seems worse than Trump. On the other hand, the GOP, and Trump, with this "spy" angle is more Alice in Wonderland (or Kafkaesque) - so what if Papadopoulis was asked a few questions, as a result of which no info was obtained? Evidently, he had communicated with some Russky's and the FBI was doing its normal (if perhaps useless) job of using a device to find out what was with that.

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    3. "(though who knows, maybe we will be great again like in the good old days)"

      Hitler promised to make Germany great again and he fulfilled that promise, but at what cost?

      The problem with uncovering a conspiracy is that you don't find out everything all at once. You nibble around the edges and work your way toward the middle. The edges are inhabited by those minor figures who turn on their associates and provide info about others closer to the center. It also doesn't help that journalists are working in the dark. Mueller is not leaking info to them, so they have to find things out piecemeal. So your expectations that "The Chase" should lay everything out neatly so that everyone can understand, is not possible now. Once Mueller finishes his investigation, the findings will be laid out in an organized way so that all can understand. But that is quite a ways down the road.

      Getting rid of Trump will not rip the country apart. It will provide relief to millions. The alt-Right will be upset, but it is better that they not have a President egging them on. The Republican party has already been ripped apart by Trump's nomination. Once Trump is gone, it can begin its healing and figure out what it stands for. Meanwhile, Trump cannot be allowed to turn himself into a dictator.

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  2. “Nothing we heard today has changed our view, that there is no evidence to support any allegation that the FBI, or any intelligence agency, placed a spy in the Trump campaign or otherwise failed to follow appropriate procedures and protocols.” (Adam Schiff, in a position to know more than the rest of us)

    "A confidential informant is not a spy,” (Lindsey Graham)

    Ultimately, "Spy" is a loaded word, just like "21 year old intern." It tends to sensationalize and cloud the issue, which is Trump's purpose and the right wing media's.

    In this case, it is the Trump camp that is rushing to judgment, calling this "spygate."

    The muddying of the waters is this: the method used (whether Papadopoulos was paid for work or provided plane fare or not) isn't really the issue. The real issue is whether the FBI acted out of a political motive.

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    Everything Trump does is abnormal, ignoring laws and traditions. In this case, interfering in the nuts and bolts of an investigation that may or may not concern himself and his associates is wrong. I do not understand why anyone is taking this seriously -- Trump is the problem, not the FBI.

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  4. What makes me sure?

    Simple: the fact that none of his was used against Trump during the campaign. So, in view of that, when I read that the motivation was supposedly to protect Trump, I believe it.

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  5. Trump lies at Naval Academy

    https://mobile.twitter.com/ToddHarrisonDC/status/1000092206856855558

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  6. I wish that guy had posted his imatation of me calling Bob an idiot so I wouldn’t have to. As to content, Anom at 5:30 covers us for the day.

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  7. Here's a Democrat whose views are very similar to Bob's.

    Meanwhile, my fellow Democrats aren’t in a good spot: They are increasingly becoming the kind of low-information voters they despise and think are only on the other side. For instance, a 2017 poll showed that a majority of Democrats (52 percent) believed Russia tampered with vote tallies in the 2016 election to help elect Trump, despite no evidence. That is akin to 69 percent of Americans believing in September 2003 that Saddam Hussein was involved in the 9/11 attacks.

    Further, many of my Democratic friends are in the dark about many of the smaller events and facts surrounding the Mueller investigation. They don’t know, for instance, that a federal judge, T. S. Ellis, rebuked Mueller for trying to target Trump. They don’t know that one of the Russian companies Mueller indicted for tampering in the 2016 election, Concord Catering, didn’t exist at the time of the election, and that when they showed up in court to contest the charges, Mueller was unprepared to proceed with the case.

    This isn’t entirely ordinary Democrats’ fault, but that of the legacy media outlets they rely on for their news and analysis, which have let their audiences down completely. These media outlets (CNN, ABC, NBC, The New York Times, etc.) have devoted little or no time to many of the stories that “help” Trump or fail to advance the Russia collusion narrative. For instance, ABC, CBS, and NBC together spent a total of just 153 seconds covering Ellis’s rebuke of Mueller.


    http://thefederalist.com/2018/05/24/im-democrat-lefts-russia-gaslighting-scares-trump/

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    1. Concord Catering's website says they've been in the catering business for 19 years. Mueller may not want to proceed with a case in absentia. The principals are Russians who wouldn't dare set foot in the US. The company had lawyers show up to plead not guilty.

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    2. They don’t know, for instance, that a federal judge, T. S. Ellis, rebuked Mueller for trying to target Trump.

      That's a goddam lie right there. I am sure it makes you feel good to believe it, traitor DinC, but that is a complete distortion and misrepresentation of what the judge said.

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    3. quoting the NY Times


      Judge Questions Whether Mueller Has Overstepped His Authority on Manafort


      A federal judge questioned on Friday the authority of the special counsel to prosecute Paul Manafort, the former Trump campaign chairman, on financial fraud and other charges.
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      WASHINGTON — A federal judge in Virginia sharply challenged on Friday the special counsel’s case against Paul Manafort, suggesting that prosecutors had pursued fraud charges in hopes of gaining evidence that might incriminate President Trump or even topple him from office.

      “You don’t really care about Mr. Manafort’s bank fraud,” Judge T. S. Ellis III said during a court hearing in Alexandria. “You really care about getting information that Mr. Manafort can give you that would reflect on Mr. Trump and lead to his prosecution or impeachment or whatever.”...

      Judge Ellis ...seemed sympathetic to the defense lawyer’s argument. He said that the crimes described in the indictment “manifestly don’t have anything to do with the campaign or with Russian collusion.” Some of the allegations, he noted, date to 2005 or 2007.

      “I don’t see what relation this indictment has with anything the special counsel is authorized to investigate,” he said, according to a transcript of the hour long hearing on a defense motion to dismiss the charges. He added, “What we don’t want in this country is we don’t want anyone with unfettered power.”


      mm -- I would call that a "rebuke", particularly the last paragraph.

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    4. That's because you're a goddam liar, traitor DinC.

      If you are happy with the word "rebuke", that is beside the point. The point is what the judge was questioning, and it hadfuck all to do with "Mueller for trying to target Trump".

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    5. “You don’t really care about Mr. Manafort’s bank fraud,” Judge T. S. Ellis III said during a court hearing in Alexandria. “You really care about getting information that Mr. Manafort can give you that would reflect on Mr. Trump and lead to his prosecution or impeachment or whatever.”

      As I read this, the judge specifically criticized Mueller for trying to target Trump in ways not connected with Russian collusion.

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    6. You can't read anything with your head so far up trump's ass, traitor DinC.

      Whose fault is it that the degenerate trump had so many criminals holding major positions in his campaign?

      The judge was not questioning Mueller's authority to "target" trump. That is your dishonest spin on it. The judge was hearing argument by the criminal Manafort to have the charges dismissed because they ostensibly exceeded Mueller's authority.

      A similar challenge by criminal Manafort was struck down by a Federal Judge in DC just recently, and no one expects the VA judge to grant Manafort's motion to dismiss. It's laughable, but not surprising that you're taking this traitor's side in the proceedings. You have gone down into this sewer for trump and there is no chance you will ever come up for air.

      A federal judge in Washington refused to toss Paul Manafort’s criminal case Tuesday, saying his indictment “falls squarely” within special counsel Robert S. Mueller III’s authority to investigate ties between the Russia government and President Trump’s 2016 campaign.

      “Manafort was an obvious person of interest,” U.S. District Judge Amy Berman Jackson wrote in part of her 37-page opinion.


      You want to make it sound that targeting your degenerate president was the issue. No traitor.

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    7. Trump is a liar and a thief.
      And Putin's bitch.

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  9. The young woman was a honeypot.

    Papadopoulos was given 3k for the paper and his travel and accommodation expenses were covered.

    Halper isn't just any professor. He has worked with the FBI for years and his father was a former deputy director with the agency.

    The FBI gave Halper 400K for this op.

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    1. I think you mean honey trap. A honey pot is something else, a term from cyber warfare.

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    2. No, I meant honeypot.

      https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Honeypots_in_espionage_fiction

      However, I did misspeak when I wrote that Halper's father was a former FBI deputy director.

      His father-in-law was a deputy director of the CIA.

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    3. Obsolete usage. Now it means something different.

      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Honeypot_(computing)

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  11. Save Your Relationship and Get Your Ex Boyfriend/Girlfriend Back!contact: Unityspelltemple@gmail.com is certainly the best spell caster online and his result is 100% guarantee.
    My Name Olivia Stephen form Tx,USA. After 12years of marriage, me and my husband has been into one quarrel or the other until he finally left me and moved to California to be with another woman. I felt my life was over and my kids thought they would never see their father again. i tried to be strong just for the kids but i could not control the pains that torments my heart, my heart was filled with sorrows and pains because i was really in love with my husband. Every day and night i think of him and always wish he would come back to me, I was really upset and i needed help, so i searched for help online and I came across a website that suggested that Dr Unity can help get ex back fast. So, I felt I should give him a try. I contacted him and he told me what to do and i did it then he did a Love spell for me. 28 hours later, my husband really called me and told me that he miss me and the kids so much, So Amazing!! So that was how he came back that same day,with lots of love and joy,and he apologized for his mistake,and for the pain he caused me and the kids. Then from that day,our Marriage was now stronger than how it were before, All thanks to Dr Unity. he is so powerful and i decided to share my story on the internet that Dr.Unity real and powerful spell caster who i will always pray to live long to help his children in the time of trouble, if you are here and you need your Ex back or your husband moved to another woman, do not cry anymore, contact this powerful spell caster now. Here’s his contact
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  12. My husband left me for a good 3 years now, and i love him so much, i have been looking for a way to get him back since then. i have tried many options but he did not come back, until i met a friend that darted me to Dr.gbojie a spell caster, who helped me to bring back my husband after 2 weeks. Me and my husband are living happily together today, That man is great, you can contact him via email l gbojiespiritualtemple@gmailcom Now i will advice any serious persons that found themselves in this kind of problem to contact him now a fast solution without steress.. He always hello, now i call him my father.contact him now he is always online email ( gbojiespiritualtemple@yahoo.com or gbojiespiritualtemple@gmail.com or contact him ons his website:https://gbojiespelltemple.wordpress.com ) or contact him on his whatsapp mobile line +2349066410185

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  13. May 27 at 10:33 PM - yet another pathetic stab at humor by the quote-totin' pseudo-prog.

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  14. Hello everyone my names is Shari from Pensacola Florida USA i want to testify of a powerful man called Dr Great and how he helped me get pregnant, I and my husband have been married for 10 years now without a child to call our own i have done everything i can but still couldn't get pregnant this was eating me up inside i was always ashamed whenever i and my husband go out because i see him playing with other children because he love kids so much
    One day when we got home i was crying bitterly i just couldn't bear it anymore i went online to look for fertility treatment when i saw someone testify of his great work and how he have help many in problems with his spell i decided to give him a try i contacted him through his email he assure me that it will take 24 hrs to cast the spell and i will be pregnant, 5 weeks after i felt ill so i went to see the doctor he confirmed that i was pregnant all thanks to this powerful spell caster Dr Great you are indeed a great man now i believe that there is no problem without a solution he can also help you, email him at

    infinitylovespell@gmail.com

    Call/text  +19043372866




    Hello everyone my names is Shari from Pensacola Florida USA i want to testify of a powerful man called Dr Great and how he helped me get pregnant, I and my husband have been married for 10 years now without a child to call our own i have done everything i can but still couldn't get pregnant this was eating me up inside i was always ashamed whenever i and my husband go out because i see him playing with other children because he love kids so much
    One day when we got home i was crying bitterly i just couldn't bear it anymore i went online to look for fertility treatment when i saw someone testify of his great work and how he have help many in problems with his spell i decided to give him a try i contacted him through his email he assure me that it will take 24 hrs to cast the spell and i will be pregnant, 5 weeks after i felt ill so i went to see the doctor he confirmed that i was pregnant all thanks to this powerful spell caster Dr Great you are indeed a great man now i believe that there is no problem without a solution he can also help you, email him at

    infinitylovespell@gmail.com

    Call/text  +19043372866




    Hello everyone my names is Shari from Pensacola Florida USA i want to testify of a powerful man called Dr Great and how he helped me get pregnant, I and my husband have been married for 10 years now without a child to call our own i have done everything i can but still couldn't get pregnant this was eating me up inside i was always ashamed whenever i and my husband go out because i see him playing with other children because he love kids so much
    One day when we got home i was crying bitterly i just couldn't bear it anymore i went online to look for fertility treatment when i saw someone testify of his great work and how he have help many in problems with his spell i decided to give him a try i contacted him through his email he assure me that it will take 24 hrs to cast the spell and i will be pregnant, 5 weeks after i felt ill so i went to see the doctor he confirmed that i was pregnant all thanks to this powerful spell caster Dr Great you are indeed a great man now i believe that there is no problem without a solution he can also help you, email him at

    infinitylovespell@gmail.com

    Call/text  +19043372866

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  15. Save Your Relationship and Get Your Ex Boyfriend/Girlfriend Back!contact: Unityspelltemple@gmail.com is certainly the best spell caster online and his result is 100% guarantee.
    My Name Olivia Stephen form Tx,USA. After 12years of marriage, me and my husband has been into one quarrel or the other until he finally left me and moved to California to be with another woman. I felt my life was over and my kids thought they would never see their father again. i tried to be strong just for the kids but i could not control the pains that torments my heart, my heart was filled with sorrows and pains because i was really in love with my husband. Every day and night i think of him and always wish he would come back to me, I was really upset and i needed help, so i searched for help online and I came across a website that suggested that Dr Unity can help get ex back fast. So, I felt I should give him a try. I contacted him and he told me what to do and i did it then he did a Love spell for me. 28 hours later, my husband really called me and told me that he miss me and the kids so much, So Amazing!! So that was how he came back that same day,with lots of love and joy,and he apologized for his mistake,and for the pain he caused me and the kids. Then from that day,our Marriage was now stronger than how it were before, All thanks to Dr Unity. he is so powerful and i decided to share my story on the internet that Dr.Unity real and powerful spell caster who i will always pray to live long to help his children in the time of trouble, if you are here and you need your Ex back or your husband moved to another woman, do not cry anymore, contact this powerful spell caster now. Here’s his contact
    Call/WhatsApp: +2348071622464 ,
    Email: Unityspelltemple@gmail.com ,
    Website:https://unityspelltemple126848969.wordpress.com .

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  16. Powerful Effective Love Spell Get Your Ex Back About a month ago I got back to my ex(after 2 and half years separated).Everything was ok and she was the most adorable woman in the world. she spoke about wedding ceremony, how many kids we would have, said that our relationship was the most important thing in her life and he was 100% sure about it…Then he traveled to work in other country for 3 weeks. he changed his behavior completely. he disappeared every night, was saying she had to do some work and would talk to me later, but disappeared the rest of the day and night… no explanation, when I asked why she was disappearing every night, she stopped answering me. she’s ignoring me since last week, April 15. she ignored even my birthday, that was April 16. Not even a message. I wrote to her a few times trying to understand what happened, she read but just ignored me.I feel so bad cause I couldn’t stop contacting and trying to understand what happened.i loved her so much and wanted to get her back, then i was told to contact happylovespell2@gmail.com who can help out with a love spell to reunite your relationship back, so instantly do contact him and give him a try and trust me he did an urgent effective love spell for me and with 46hours promise he made to me, my woman was back, today i testify to you all that you should seek and contact Dr happy for his spell result is genuine sure and guarantee unite and get your ex back save your marriage/relationship problem now, email happlovespell2@gmail.com you can also know more about his spell Blogs site.http://happylovespel.blogspot.com.ng/ Whatsapp/cal +2348133873774

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  17. Effective love spell to get your Ex back urgently
    Hello
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  18. MY HUSBAND IS BACK WITH THE GREAT HELP OF DR SAM LOVE SPELL

    My husband was flirting with another woman. until he vanished away, I was desperate to get him back, I wasted so much time and money trying to get my Husband back, I tried almost all possibilities to have him back and nothing worked. I became lonely. To make it short, I found a spell caster Dr Sam. I saw the good testimonies about his wonderful work and after reading the Testimonials, I decided I had to try and give it one last try and After the spells, a miracle happened, my husband came home. It was awesome, anyone who needs help, should email him (Supremespellcast@gmail.com Or Supremespellcast@yahoo.com) Or whatsApp him on these number. +2347087462033..





    MY HUSBAND IS BACK WITH THE GREAT HELP OF DR SAM LOVE SPELL

    My husband was flirting with another woman. until he vanished away, I was desperate to get him back, I wasted so much time and money trying to get my Husband back, I tried almost all possibilities to have him back and nothing worked. I became lonely. To make it short, I found a spell caster Dr Sam. I saw the good testimonies about his wonderful work and after reading the Testimonials, I decided I had to try and give it one last try and After the spells, a miracle happened, my husband came home. It was awesome, anyone who needs help, should email him (Supremespellcast@gmail.com Or Supremespellcast@yahoo.com) Or whatsApp him on these number. +2347087462033..

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  19. Many people wonder if there is a natural cure for HIV or are looking for ways on how to get rid of HIV for good. there are many natural HIV remedies that can put HIV into remission. there is a method for how to get rid of HIV Wish is taking of herbal medicines. My problem with HIV has caused me many traumas,especially in my love life.I was so afraid of infecting my boyfriend, I suffered the embarrassment of visiting dermatologists queries hundreds of times.Unfortunately,they did not find a definitive solution to my problem.The solution came from the least expected herbal doctor which is Dr ZACK BALO. By reading in a specialized forum on the subject,How to cure HIV virus completely. Many people had tried, with excellent and quick results.I had nothing to lose so I decided to contact Dr ZACK BALO through his website: http://drzackbalo.website2.me/ and use his herbal medicine to eliminate my HIV DISEASE. I spent two weeks using his herbal medicine and today my HIV is completely disappeared and turn out negative after numerous test from different hospital. I recommend this method to all people who want to eliminate the HIV from their body forever, The doctor contact email, wiseindividualspell@gmail.com call or text him +13203967742.

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  20. OMG!!! I am so proud and happy to be out here sharing your work Dr. Sam. I just can't believe this now my ex Husband is really back to me on his knees presenting a ruby rose to beg me to take him back and he was feeling regretful and sorry for leaving me and for causing me pains after the divorce which occurred last year. And this whole miracle happened after I ordered an urgent 24hours Dr. Sam powerful spell which he cast on me and my husband. Sir, I am the happiest woman today in this whole wide world. Dr. Sam, you really did it..Yes.. Its a miracle and everlasting pleasure and cheerfulness for me and my family today.. I am so happy now and i don't know how much to convey my thankfulness and appreciation to you sir. And to the whole world, contact him if you need urgent help now because it's guaranteed that he will help you. Email him (Supremespellcast@gmail.com Or Supremespellcast@yahoo.com) com you can visit his Website Via> http://supremespellcast.website2.me Or his blog> https://supremespellcast.blogspot.com Add him up (WhatsApp him +2347087462033)

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  21. You need help to GET PREGNANT? contact Dr OKOUGBE on this email (
    drokougbespecialhome@gmail.com), i am here to share my testimony on HOW I CONCEIVE my baby. i have been married to my husband for 8 years without no issue.i had problems with my in-laws even my husband started to have new affairs aside our marriage. it was a very terrible thing to bear. i became a laughing stock among my pear, i prayed and fasted and nothing happened, been to many doctors and yet my case remain the same, i was now seen as always unhappy.i was even ready to pack out of my marital home and stay on my own because my husband was not given me any attention that i needed from him. i decided to focus on my job and try to live happy on my own. on this faithful day, i decided to check the net for updates on healthy living and i came across a story of a man who Dr OKOUGBE helped his wife to conceive a baby. i decided to put a try because this has been my greatest problem in life. today i am a proud mom with two son. words will not be enough to explained what this man did for me. i am a happy mother,i know there is someone in same condition and you feel there is no way. i urge you to contact him. This is the solution to every single mother around the globe. distance is not a barrier, he will surely make your dreams come trough. contact him today via email: drokougbespecialhome@gmail.com or +2348119278442

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  22. This is my testimony on how i won $50 million dollars. I am from USA I want to use this opportunity to thank Dr Okaya for helping me to win the lottery of $50 million lottery ticket.I have been playing the lottery for the past 7 years now and i have never won. Ever since then i have not been able to win and i was so upset and i need help to win the lottery. so i decided to go online and search for help,there i saw so many good testimony about this man called DR OKAYA of how he have cast lucky spell lotto for people to win the lottery.I contact him also and tell him i want to win a lottery, he cast a spell for me which i use and i play and won $50 million dollars. I am so grateful to this man, just in-case you also need him to help you win,you can contact him through his email: OKAYASPELLHELP@GMAIL.COM or call/Whatsapp +27814506790

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  23. My Name is Dora Judy i want to tell you all my life story about A Spell Caster Who help me to get pregnant, So me and my husband have been trying to get a baby for the last 10 years now and we have had no luck. I don't have a regular cycle so it is hard for me to tell when I'm ovulating or not, but we always have sex at least 3 times a week, sometimes more. I know it can take up to a year to conceive but everyone i know who have had a baby have conceived within 2-3months of trying and it is really hurting to me. my husband had a fertility test about a year ago and his sperm were fine. I'm thinking it could be a problem with me but I've never had any symptoms of any problems. My husband does smoke and have the occasional Priest ink, and i used to smoke and also have the occasional Priest ink. i know i'm slightly overweight but that shouldn't affect our chances too much, one faithful day my friend told me about Dr Sam and told me to contact this spell caster that help her aunty, then i contact the man on this email: Supremespellcast@gmail.com, after three months the doctor confirm that i am pregnant thank you Dr Sam for helping me get a baby, I am thankful for all he has done. contact him via email: {Supremespellcast@gmail.com Or Supremespellcast@yahoo.com} whatsapp him on +2347087462033 and he will also save your marriage or your relationship problems.

    You can read more about him on his website and contact him: http://supremespellcast.website2.me
    Name: Dora Judy
    Country: USA

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  24. Thank you so much Dr osauyi for any one that may need the same help call him on +2347064294395

    So wonderful and Unbelievable until now i give Dr Osauyi a call for the return of my husband who left me and the kids for another woman....for few mouth now me and my hsband has be having a serious issue regarding our marriage i never thought any thing could make my husband come back to me as his wife again after the divorce It was too late for me to realize that my six-year-old marriage was only an episode i always wanted to get back together with him all to know was vain i never give up i keep trying But the breakthrough came when a family friend who knew about my problem introduce me to this great spell caster who i narrated my problem and told me that my husband is going to come back to me if i believe at first i do not believe but all the same i acted like i believe today my husband is back to me and we are both liveing happyly i still doubt this spell caster how he did it for any one that may need the help of this great spell i advice you to contact Dr Osauyi because it has the power to bring back couples on

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