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TUESDAY, MAY 1, 2018

We simply aren't up to this task:
Michelle Wolf's string of sex-based insults has generated a fascinating discussion about the role of comedy, and its near imitations, within our failing culture.

Might we note an unfortunate anthropological fact? As a species, we simply aren't up to the task of running a modern democracy.

We may seem equipped to handle that task when things are going reasonably well. At highly tribal times like these, our fundamental lack of skill may start announcing itself.

Tomorrow, we want to take a look at some of Wolf's specific remarks last Saturday night. In particular, we'll plan to examine a basic question:

What the Sam Hill is a "d*ck joke?"

For today, we'll restrict ourselves to one letter from today's New York Times.

The Times published four letters about Wolf's performance. For reasons we can't necessarily fathom, this was one of the letter the editors decided to publish:
LETTERS TO THE NEW YORK TIMES (5/1/18): As news outlets rush to criticize Michelle Wolf’s routine, have we already forgotten this very paper’s July 2017 tally predicting “Trump on Track to Insult 650 People, Places and Things on Twitter by the End of His First Term”? We read about or listen to a president of the United States verbally demean swaths of people, sometimes in language too vulgar for television, on a regular basis. But when a female comedian makes admittedly raw remarks about the president and members of his administration, at an event that in recent years has relied on comedians as hosts, we cry “too much.”

I can’t help but wonder: Would we be attacking the same words if they had been delivered by a man?

S— S— P—
RICHMOND, VA.
Does that make any sense? The writer starts by citing a Times report about the way Donald J. Trump "verbally demean[s] swaths of people, sometimes in language too vulgar for television, on a regular basis."

Such complaints about Trump have been relentless, and justified, over the past three years. But when people lodge a similar objection to Wolf, the writer asks this question:

"Would we be attacking the same words if they had been delivered by a man?"

Increasingly, this is the way we liberals reason in this age of tribal breakdown and "identity"-based analysis, with the emphasis on every group finding a way to be outraged in the moment.

Anthropologically speaking, that letter demonstrates one of the ways our species is inclined to behave at times of tribal breakdown. In a second act of abnormal anthropology, someone at the New York Times decided it ought to be published.

Coming tomorrow: Tampons, diapers, insults, d*ck jokes and the decline of the west

Times readers who don't know their history: Will be condemned to relive it, although the second time around will be dumber still.

Twenty-two years ago, the famously R-rated Mr. Don Imus took the same approach at this annual dinner. Imus and his sidekicks are all man!

The same reaction ensued.

28 comments:

  1. "Anthropologically speaking, that letter demonstrates one of the ways our species is inclined to behave at times of tribal breakdown"

    According to my observations, your species always behaved like that. Even before they turned into zombies.

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  2. The implicit logic of the letter Bob quotes is that a woman got criticized for raunchy jokes, whereas a man would not be criticized for similar raunchiness. She specifically names Donald Trump as an example of a man who presumably has not been criticized for his raunchiness. But, of course, Trump has been severely criticized for his raunchy comments and tweets. So, there's no logic at all to that letter.

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    1. David (the conservative from sunny California) just loves him some raunchy degenerate as president. Vulgar, repugnant, imbecilic, LIAR, fraud, conman, TRAITOR - the new Republican paradigm for leader of the free world.

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    2. David, David. Republicans have not criticized Trump for his vulgarity. They love him, perhaps precisely because he is vulgar. But he and other Republicans turn around and criticize Wolf for her supposed vulgarity. That is what's called a "double standard." Look up the phrase if you are unfamiliar with it.

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    3. Republicans have not criticized Trump for his vulgarity.

      Hey, 6:06. do you have any evidence of that statement? I've seen numerous criticisms of Trump's comments and tweets, not only from never-Trumpers, but from many Trump supporters.

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    4. David is a "math person". He don't do logic too good.

      David, you have the balls to talk about "logic"? You are comparing a relatively obscure comedienne to the fucking President of the United States. Are you fucking insane? Have you lost all sense of decency?

      The very same night, the fucking President of the United States explicitly threatened a United States Senator.

      “Tester started throwing out things that he’s heard. Well, I know things about Tester that I could say, too,” Trump said at the rally. “And if I said them, he’d never be elected again.”

      And TDH is worried about what a woman comedian said at a roast.

      Fuck this shit.

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    5. Hey, 6:06. do you have any evidence of that statement?

      Yes, 6:06, the David the "math person" wants you to prove the negative. He's a fucking dumbass.

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    6. David calling himself a "math person' is what you get when you live in the Conservative bubble. Next to the rest of the mouth-breathers who can't get to 4 from 2+2, a know- almost-nothing, like David, gets to fancy himself a "math guy".

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    7. The fact that David doesn't call himself "an economics guy", "a history guy", or "a guy with a sense of humor" despite living in the Conservative bubble, speaks volumes.

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  3. "What the Sam Hill is a "d*ck joke?"

    Why don't we check in with "our old pal William Maher" (http://dailyhowler.blogspot.com/2016/06/dilbert-knows-best-were-all-poor.html?m=1):

    "Michael Cohen famously said 'I'd take a bullet for Donald Trump.' Well, now that he's looking at prison time, we'll see if he's willing to take a dick. "

    --Bill Maher on Twitter, 12:56 AM · Apr 21, 2018

    Now THAT'S a "d*ck joke."

    Is your pal Bill a part of our failing culture, Bob? He's been at this a lot longer than Ms Wolf.

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  4. Hey, Bob. You don't have to scan The NY Times for letters and comments about Wolf's performance. You can check your own blog commentary.

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  5. I have just finished the part of Hillary Clinton's book where she talks about what Russia did to manipulate our election, what Russia did in other countries, including Great Britain, France and Germany, and she laid out a plan for what we need to do to combat their efforts, which she characterized as cyber warfare.

    Among the items she listed was that we need to defend our institutions. One of those institutions is the mainstream media. She said the media needs to do more fact checking and make a greater effort to identify fake news, propaganda and lies. She said we need to defend critical thinking and the truth.

    How is Somerby helping such an effort, with his webpage that is explicitly devoted to critical thinking about the mainstream media? I rarely see him call out any lies or defend truth at all. I see him nitpick careless errors by journalists he apparently dislikes. But I don' see him calling for coverage of anything that would combat Russian propaganda. I don't see him supporting the media at all.

    Based on his own words and actions, Somerby is indistinguishable from the fake news outlets supporting Trump and attacking the efforts of those trying to bring him to justice. He is opposing the investigations into Trump's obstruction of justice and collusion with Russia.

    Now he is aligning himself with those who have been critical of Wolf's comedy routine, even though she explicitly talked about the lying liars in the president's administration, including his own press secretary.

    Somerby uses sexual jokes as the excuse to criticize Wolf, who was largely defending truth and reminding the correspondents of their responsibility to tell that truth. People who cringe at sexual talk are those who think some things should be hidden, secret, private, especially when it comes to women.

    Somerby today referred to Wolf's hymen in his headline. He is obviously not above using such words to make his points. When she uses sex for her purposes, she is to be chastised, however. And then he pretends he cannot understand the double standard applied to Wolf and Trump (and himself when he uses crudeness to attack a target here -- Maddow stuffing cash down her pants, for example). As if he didn't know that subjugation of women includes what they may and may not talk about. Ladies don't talk about sex. They barely do it. They blush when it is mentioned. Ladies don't wear pussy hats and they don't make dick jokes. And that effectively keeps them off comedy stages and limits their material -- but Somerby can talk about Wolf's hymen all he wants, because why? He is male and really knows what comedy is all about. As if!

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    1. Correction -- it was Chozick's hymen he was referring to. The point remains the same.

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  6. Here's another take on Wolf's performance.

    As you might imagine, some commenters objected to the "obscenities" projected by the author.

    Leroy

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    1. The occasion was to commemorate the 1st Amendment which guarantees freedom of speech not solely freedom of the press. Is the irony of this uproar lost on everyone?

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  7. DinC and Mao,
    Trump is a liar and a thief.
    And Putin's bitch.
    Argue against any of those truths.

    You both are liars. Ergo: Trump is your (sack of shit) hero.

    Speak up, punks.

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  8. They are too chicken shit to argue.
    It's easier for them to lie.

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  9. I'm waiting for the video of the Russian whores pissing on Trump.

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  11. So let's lay out this one for Bob: the tacked on comment about Wolf being female at the end of the letter is weak, the rest of the letter makes perfect sense. SOME of the reactions to Wolf might be seen in the context of her sex, but I would see these as ones She has gotten from the left.

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