BREAKING: Three thousand clams have disappeared!

WEDNESDAY, MAY 23, 2018

A bizarre journalistic event:
In this post, for the third straight day, we'll be discussing the disappearance of the clams.

More precisely, three thousand clams have gone missing in our high-profile public discussion! Also, a plane ride to London! That too has been disappeared!

We refer to the $3000 reportedly paid to George Papadopoulos by Stefan Halper, the FBI's now-famous, though sometimes still-unnamed, "informant." In the endless discussions of this event, those three thousand clams—and that plane ride to London—have been disappeared.

Was there any such payment at all? On each of the past two days, we've shown you the way the New York Times reported this payment to Papadopoulos—a payment which was made under false, phony pretenses. (For yesterday's post, click here.)

That said, the Washington Post also reported the payment last Saturday, in even more detail than the Times. Below, you see the Post's account of the matter, part of a 1550-word report by four of the Post's top reporters. In this passage, the reporters refer to the FBI informant as "the professor:"
COSTA, LEONNIG, HAMBURGER AND BARRETT (5/19/18): People familiar with [the informant's] outreach to Papadopoulos said it was done as part of the FBI’s investigation. The young foreign-policy adviser had been on the radar of the FBI since the summer, and inside the campaign had been pushing Trump and his aides to meet with Russian officials.

“Please pardon my sudden intrusion just before the Labor Day weekend,” the professor wrote to Papadopoulos
in a message described to The Post.

He said he was leading a project examining relations between Turkey and the European Union. He offered to pay Papadopoulos $3,000 to write a paper about the oil fields off the coast of Turkey, Israel and Cyprus, “a topic on which you are a recognized expert.”

It is a long-standing practice of intelligence operatives to try to develop a source by first offering the target money for innocuous research or writing.

The professor invited Papadopoulos to come to London later that month to discuss the paper, offering to pay the costs of his travel. “I understand that this is rather sudden but thought given your expertise, it might be of interest to you,” he wrote.

Papadopoulos accepted.
While in London, he met for drinks with a woman who identified herself as the professor’s assistant, before meeting on Sept. 15 with the professor at the Traveler’s Club, a 200-year-old private club that is a favorite of foreign diplomats stationed in London, according to the emails described to The Post.

After Papadopoulos returned to the United States and sent his research document, the professor responded: “Enjoyed your paper. Just what we wanted. $3,000 wired to your account. Pls confirm receipt.”
Some people will refer to that approach as "tradecraft." Rightly or wrongly, others will be inclined, and not completely crazily, to describe it as "spying." Meanwhile, the New York Post has reported the payment too. To read that report, click here.

In short, three major newspapers, but mainly the Washington Post and the New York Times, have reported this incident. But we've still seen no one on CNN or MSNBC describe these reported events.

We'll assume that these channels have adopted a policy under which this report can't be mentioned, perhaps because the report hasn't been confirmed by their own reporters. We say this because pro-Trump commentator Jason Miller referred to "entrapment" several times on Monday night's Anderson Cooper show.

Presumably, that was a reference to this clandestine procedure. But even Miller, a CNN contributor, didn't cite the clandestine payment, or explain why he was using the term.

Was this approach to Papadopoulos really a form of "entrapment?" Not really, although the informant was imaginably hoping that Papadopoulos would cop to inappropriate or even illegal behavior.

At any rate, these high-profile reports by the Post and the Times have gone down the memory hole on CNN and MSNBC. And not only there! In this morning's Washington Post, David Ignatius wrote a column about the informant, but even he skipped past this episode—an episode which has been reported in substantial detail in his own newspaper!

Why does this matter? Here's why:

We'd like to see a specialist like Ignatius answer a simple-minded question. Why did the FBI have this informant approach Papadopoulos under false pretenses, in a surreptitious manner?

They'd been told that Papadopoulos had said that the Russkies had Clinton's emails. Why didn't they simply send an agent to ask him, in the full light of day, what he'd actually heard?

We'd like to see analysts answer that simple-minded question. But in the current climate, no one is willing to say that the clandestine approach occurred!

The FBI's surreptitious approach helps explain why it's easy to sell this as an example of "spying." Indeed, even James Clapper seemed to possibly fumble the language yesterday on The View:
BEHAR (5/22/18): So I ask you, was the F.B.I. spying on Trump’s campaign?

CLAPPER: No, they were not. They were spying on—a term I don’t particularly like—but on what the Russians were doing. Trying to understand were the Russians infiltrating, trying to gain access, trying to gain leverage or influence, which is what they do.
Oof—and oops as well!

Don't get us wrong! Given the totally tribalized nature of our current political world, our two tribes have already created hardened narratives about what Clapper meant by what he said. But, tribal imperatives to the side, Clapper came awkwardly close to saying that the FBI actually was spying in its approach to Papadopoulos—but they were only trying to spy on what the Russkies knew, not on what the Trump campaign was doing.

Whatever! People can call this approach whatever they like. But in a traditionally rational world, the facts come before the semantics.

The recitation of basic facts comes before the semantics! But in this episode, everyone is arguing semantics, and no one is stating the reported facts! It's amazing to see the way those high-profile reports by the Post and the Times have been disappeared wherever anti-Trump viewpoints are sold. Even Ignatius, a Post columnist, won't mention what the Post itself said!

This is one of the weirdest journalistic episodes we've ever seen at this site. It represents a descent into a Pravda-istic, post-Enlightenment type of discourse.

We have a deeply disordered president—and an increasingly tribalized mainstream press. In this case, our two most important mainstream newspapers have published similar, high-profile news reports. It's amazing, and deeply bizarre, to see our floundering career liberal world refusing to discuss what these famous newspapers have said.

We liberals! We're staging a fight about the semantics—and refusing to state the known facts! As our deeply corporatized tribe descends into its own form of madness, we liberals won't even be asked to hear the known facts about what has occurred!

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  1. LORD.

    First Bob convincingly berates a book that, after all, he should complete before even talking about. Then he commits and embarrasing error equal to anything Chozick is likely to match in the remainder of her tome.
    Duh. the problem, BOB, you incredible nincompoop, was that Trump ADMITTED CLAPPER WAS HANDLING COHEN FOR HIM, something he had previously denied. I know this subject makes Bob a little crazy, and Avenatti's seemingly effective on air pursuit of Trump has ruduced Bob to frazzled name calling, but this is just gross incometence on Bob's part. Glad he's big on attorney client privilege, which by the way, does not always protect illegal activity.

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  2. "Should the FBI have sent [NAME WITHHELD] to lure George Papadopoulos into a conversation? ...We can't voice a useful opinion. Basically, we lack the requisite experience.", said Bob.

    (http://dailyhowler.blogspot.com/2018/05/breaking-three-thousand-dollars-for.html?m=1)

    Here's where that lack of experience really shows itself:
    "Why didn't they simply send an agent to ask him, in the full light of day, what he'd [Popadopolous] actually heard?"

    Yeah. That's why G-men investigating the mafia just show up at the capo's door and ask him point-blank if the mob is involved in criminal activities. I'm sure the capo would totally cop to his crimes. Why didn't the FBI think of that? Because they didn't have Somerby to offer his brilliant musings as a consultant.

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  3. So Somerby goes from this 5 days ago to chastise the media:
    "The news report is shaky enough.(Example: Do you see Trump quoted anywhere using the key term "spy?")"

    (http://dailyhowler.blogspot.com/2018/05/explosive-was-carter-page-russkie-agent.html?m=1)

    (Trump had indeed used the word).

    To this, 5 days later:
    "Rightly or wrongly, others will be inclined, and not completely crazily, to describe it as "spying."

    Is Somerby channeling Giuliani?
    "Trump didn't say 'spy', (that was fake news), but if he did, it would be totally justified, and now that he does it obsessively, it is legitimate, and it's fake news and totally partisan to assert that there's anything wrong with it, because there was NO COLLUSION."

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  4. in a traditionally rational world, the facts come before the semantics.

    Here are a couple of examples where the semantics come before the facts.

    1. Waterboarding is, according to some, a form of "torture". If semantics is what matters, that word ends the discussion. But, those focused on facts know that waterboarding is very different from other things also called "torture", and the difference matters.

    2. "Racism" could be anything. A school prom with the theme, Party Like It's 1776, is "racist". And, lynching people is "racist". Same word, so the prom theme is egregious and requires a formal apology.

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    1. David in Cal,

      1. "Torture" is a conclusion. "Waterboarding" is a description. Different forms of "torture" are different from one another. Sleep deprivation can be a form of torture, but that doesn't mean that anyone who keeps you awake at night is torturing you. Repeatedly subjecting someone to rape can be a form of torture, but that doesn't mean that consensual sex (the very same act with different intent) is torture.

      Most people can tell the difference. We Americans used to generally agree on such things. The supporters of the Bush/Cheney response to 9/11 did a great job of arguing against the previously generally accepted understandings, but I hope you won't mind if I continue to think that every right-thinking person knows the truth.

      2. I don't know that "racism" could be "anything." But there certainly are degrees of racism - some of them intentional and very harmful (even deadly, like lynching). Some of them intentional but only hurtful, like slurs. Some of them unintentional and generally not a big deal. And sometimes people argue that something is racist when it isn't. Again, I think that fair-minded people are smart enough to know the difference.

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    2. The word 'lynching' describes an executions by a mob. The concept no more "racist" by itself than, say, a 'bar fight'.

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    3. "according to some"

      Fuck you David, you treasonous bastard. According to US and International Laws, waterboarding is illegal.

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    4. Jonny Scrum/2,

      Although I admire your forbearance, I’m afraid you’re wasting your time. DAinCA’s ignorance is so abyssal that it’s made him a moral idiot. How can you argue with someone who derides “semantics”? It is semantics that allows the morally competent to understand that waterboarding is torture as defined by 18USC2340, army training manuals, several treaties to which the US is a party, and people like John McCain (who ought to know). When we tried Japanese soldiers for war crimes after World War II, waterboarding was included as counts of torture. Don’t waste your metaphorical breath on DAinCA.

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    5. "those focused on facts know that waterboarding is very different from other things also called "torture", and the difference matters"

      This is not true. Most people who are concerned about torture consider waterboarding to be torture.

      Playing loud music 24/7 to prevent sleep is torture. Depriving someone of food is torture. Waterboarding deprives someone of air and that is most definitely torture.

      The only quibbling about semantics is political and comes from those who wish to engage in torture while pretending that America never uses torture.

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  5. "And not only there! In this morning's Washington Post, David Ignatius wrote a column about the informant, but even he skipped past this episode"

    "Even he"? But isn't he, quite notoriously, a guy on the CIA payroll?

    Well, same as all the rest of them, I suppose...

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    1. Looks like anti-Establishment Trump is "un-rigging the game" so that the poor, marginalized coal-mine owners won't be forced by the politically-connected, elite citizens to stop polluting their drinking water.

      This, and not the bigotry (obviously), is why Trump won the white vote.

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    2. More good news for those economically anxious mid-westerners in their diners:

      So an ex-aide was tasked with finding a back channel to arrange for a meeting that could be portrayed back home as “talks,” the BBC reports. That aide found his way to Trump’s personal lawyer Michael Cohen, who was reportedly paid between $400,000 and $600,000 to make the meeting happen.

      ....

      Poroshenko ended up getting his meeting, which he later called a “substantial visit.” Then he went home and gave Trump what one BBC source called a “gift”: An anti-corruption investigation into Paul Manafort was effectively killed. The BBC suggests that Poroshenko made the move to help Trump, not because the president asked for it. Trump is also said to have been unaware of the alleged payment to Cohen.

      I have heard of coincidences, I've just never actually seen one.

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  6. The paper was real. The professor was legitimate. The payment was not a bribe. The only thing that was sub rosa was the questions the professor asked Papadopoulos during their meeting. The substance of that conversation was reported to the FBI because it was relevant to their investigation. The professor could as easily have exonerated him, had there been nothing to report.

    No one seems concerned that Papadopoulos was dirty. They only seem to care that he got caught by someone who turned him in, instead of by an agent who he might have fooled or evaded. Conservatives apparently think that it is not OK for non-agents to testify or report wrongdoing to investigators, yet everyday people testify against criminals all the time.

    This is just deflection. My question is why Somerby is participating in this deflection, indeed complaining because MSNBC doesn't engage in it to the same extent as the NY Times. It doesn't matter how the professor found out things about Papadopoulos. What matters is that Papadopoulos is guilty. That should be the focus of the reporting -- not whether the professor was deliberately spying when he asked questions or found out something accidentally.

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  7. Bob, DinC, Mao,
    Trump is a liar and a thief.
    And Putin's bitch.

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  8. Trump to Bob, DinC and Mao,
    Bend over, I'll drive.
    If you believe that Trump gives a shit about you, I have a bridge for sale. Takes you from Brooklyn to Manhattan and back again!
    Putin has his bitch; Trump has you guys.

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    1. You're moving in the right direction, 6:04. Trump doesn't give a shit about me. Neither do Pence, Ryan, the Clintons, Nancy Pelosi, Barack Obama, or employees in the various federal agencies.

      I vote against the party that wants to give even more power to people who don't give a shit about me.

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    2. " ... Trump doesn't give a shit about me."

      Can't say as I blame him. Meanwhile, http://www.philly.com/philly/blogs/attytood/trump-tower-kushner-saudis-uae-qatar-nader-20180520.html

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    3. "I vote against the party that wants to give even more power to people who don't give a shit about me."

      Bullshit. You voted for Trump, who nominated a Supreme Court justice, who just ruled in favor of corporations (who don't give a shit about people like you), over their workers (people like you).

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  9. Shorter Somerby: Trump and the press are made for each other.

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  14. ..I never believed in Love Spells or Magics until I met this special spell caster when i contact this man called DR. ZUBA Execute some business..He is really powerful..My wife divorce me with no reason for almost 3 years and i tried all i could to have her back cos i really love her so much but all my effort did not work out.. we met at our early age at the college and we both have feelings for each other and we got married happily for 5 years with no kid and she woke up one morning and she told me she’s going on a divorce..i thought it was a joke and when she came back from work she tender to me a divorce letter and she packed all her loads from my house..i ran mad and i tried all i could to have her back but all did not work out..i was lonely for almost 5 years…So when i told the spell caster what happened he said he will help me and he asked for her full name and her picture..i gave him that..At first i was skeptical but i gave it a try cos i have tried so many spell casters and there is no solution…so when he finished with the readings,he got back to me that she’s with a man and that man is the reason why she left me…The spell caster said he will help me with a spell that will surely bring her back.but i never believe all this…he told me i will see a positive result within 3 days..3 days later,she called me herself and came to me apologizing and she told me she will come back to me..I cant believe this,it was like a dream cos i never believe this will work out after trying many spell casters and there is no solution..The spell caster is so powerful and after that he helped me with a pregnancy spell and my wife got pregnant a month later..we are now happy been together again and with lovely kid..This spell caster has really changed my life and i will forever thankful to him..he has helped many friends too with similar problem too and they are happy and thankful to him..This man is indeed the most powerful spell caster have ever experienced in life..Am Posting this to the Forum in case there is anyone who has similar problem and still looking for a way out..you can reach him here:drzubaspellhome@gmail.com... CONTACT THIS GREAT AND POWERFUL SPELL CASTER CALLED DR. ZUBA ... HIS EMAIL ADDRESS IS drzubaspellhome@gmail.com... CONTACT HIM ON WHATSAPP ;+2348167554235 NOW AND BE FAST ABOUT IT SO HE CAN ALSO ATTEND TO YOU BECAUSE THE EARLIER YOU CONTACT HIM NOW THE BETTER FOR YOU TO GET QUICK SOLUTION TO ALL YOUR PROBLEMS......

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  15. How i got my Ex hubby with the help of Dr Ukugba temple.
    The testimony of my life unbelievable I never knew people like dr Ukugba still exist this shock me up till now. My hubby left me for another woman
    after 2years of marriage, i was heart broken I lost my job as a result
    of too many thoughts, I manage to care for our little daughters, until a
    friend of mine introduces me to Great drukugbatemple@gmail.com temple, at first
    I did not believe but I was persuaded with the testimony of him on how
    I have helped people to bring their ex-back, restore lost jobs, help to
    win lottery, spell for office promotion, spell to win court cases.
    With all this I decided to give it to try, I contacted him and narrated
    all my problems to him, he told me not to worry just to trust in him
    that my hubby will be back after 48hours of his rescue spell on him,
    exactly after his words began to manifest my hubby came back pleading for forgiveness promising much love as never before.
    and my lost job was restored with new promotion, I'm a happy woman again because I felt life was over for me, this I will not forget in a hurry and also I want anybody that is passing through the same challenges as mine or worse than mine should all look up to him for a prefect work. I promise to tell the whole world of it because I have put a smile on my face and that is what it does to everyone that desire help and favor. All
    thanks to Dr Ukugba. Contact him now, and get a solution to your problems, Contact him at drukugbatemple@gmail.com or whatssap his number 08070884763.

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  16. All thanks to Dr. Sam for the love spell done that brought my divorce husband back home

    Am Sophie peter...Am very happy today not because of anything but just because of what this great man called Dr.Sam did for me.i was so down when my ex-husband left me. I just can't believe this now my ex-husband is now back to me on his knees presenting a ruby rose begging me to take him back and he was feeling regretful and sorry for leaving me and for causing me pains after the divorce. And this whole miracle happened after I ordered an urgent 48hours from Dr. Sam. Sir, I am the happiest woman today in this whole wide world. Dr. Sam, you really did it..Yes.. Its a miracle and everlasting pleasure and cheerfulness for me and my family today..Thank you, Sir, for your precious help. You are a genuine spell caster and you will never be forgotten for making me a fulfilled woman once again.. You are my hero... The kids are overjoyed to have their father come back home for good. contact him if you need urgent help in your relationship. Email (Supremespellcast@gmail.com) or WhatsApp him +2347087462033...

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  17. Effective love spell to get your Ex back urgently
    Hello
    I'm so excited share this testimony,
    i sincerely hope my post gets read
    and hopefully helps somebody along
    the line my husband took my case
    to court for a divorce. he said that
    he never wanted to stay with me
    again, and that he didn’t love me
    anymore. So he packed out of the
    house and made me and my
    children passed through severe
    pain. I tried all my possible means to
    get him back, after much begging
    but all to no avail and he confirmed
    it that he has made his decision and
    he never wanted to see me again.
    So on one evening as i was coming
    back from work i met an old friend
    of mine who asked of my husband.
    So i explained every thing to her so
    she told me that the only way i can
    get my husband back, is to visit a
    great spell caster called Dr Ahmed
    utimate, who has really worked for
    her too to get her husband. So i
    never believed in spell but i had no
    other choice than to follow her
    advice. Then she gave me the email
    address of the spell caster, So the
    next morning i sent a mail to the
    address she gave to me and the
    spell caster assured me that i will
    get my husband back the next day.
    What an amazing statement!! I never
    believed so he spoke with me and
    told me everything that i need to do.
    Then the next morning So
    surprisingly my husband who didn’t
    call me for the past seven months
    gave me a call to inform me that he
    was coming back. So Amazing!! So
    that was how he came back that
    same day with lots of love and joy,
    he apologized for his mistake and
    for the pain he caused me and my
    children. Then from that day our
    relationship was now stronger than
    how it were before, So i will advice
    you out there if you have any
    problem contact Prophet Dr Ahmed
    utimate he is real and always ready
    to help you solve your problem
    Email him at:
    Ahmedutimate@gmail.com or call/
    whatsapp: +2348160153829

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  18. Hello,

    I'm Dr Ogudugu a real and genuine spell caster with years of experience in spell casting and an expert in all spells, i specialize exclusively in LOVE SPELL/GET YOUR EX LOVER BACK, FRUIT OF THE WOMB SPELL, HIV CURE SPELL, BECOMING A MERMAID SPELL, BECOMING A VAMPIRE SPELL, SAVE CHILD BIRTH SPELL. If you have any problem and you need a real and genuine spell caster to solve your problems, contact me now through my personal Email Address...Note-you can also Call and WhatsApp.

    Contact me -
    Email: greatogudugu@gmail.com
    Phone No: +2348139793075
    WhatsApp No: +2348139793075

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  19. hello,
    Am writing this article to appreciate the good work of DR Abiodun that helped me recently to bring back my wife that left me for another man for no reason for the past 8 months . After seeing a post of a woman on the Internet testifying of how she was helped by DR ABiodun. I also decided to contact him for help because all i wanted was for me to get back my wife happiness and to make sure that my child grows up with his mother. Am happy today that he helped me and i can proudly say that my wife is back with so much love and joy like never before thanks Dr contact email drabioduntemple@gmail.com

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  20. Hello,

    I'm Dr Ogudugu, a real and genuine spell caster/Spiritual healer with years of experience in spell casting and an expert in all spells, i specialize exclusively in LOVE SPELL/GET REUNITE WITH EX LOVER, MONEY SPELL, POWERFUL MAGIC RING, ANY COURT CASES, FRUIT OF THE WOMB, HIV CURE, CURE FOR CANCER, HERPES, DIABETE, HERPERTITIS B, PARKINSON’S HERBAL CURE, BECOMING A MERMAID, BECOMING A VAMPIRE, SAVE CHILD BIRTH. They are all %100 Guaranteed QUICK Results, it most work. If you have any problem and you need a real and genuine spell caster to solve your problems, contact me now through my personal Email Address with problem case...Note-you can also Text/Call on WhatsApp.

    Contact me -
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    WhatsApp No: +27663492930

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