GAPS AND SCHOOLS: "Nowhere to run to" in modern Detroit!

THURSDAY, MAY 17, 2018

Part 4—School 54, where are you?:
Like so many people around the country, Irene Butler, a Manhattan resident, is almost surely a good decent admirable person.

Almost surely, a novelizing journalist would describe Butler as "salt of the earth." Her grandson is a sixth-grader at West Prep Academy, a Manhattan middle school where Butler says students are struggling.

Butler thinks her her grandson might be better off academically at Manhattan's School 54, a higher-performing middle school located two blocks away from West Prep. It's possible that she's right about that. It's possible that she's wrong.

For the record, School 54's higher performance is based on the fact that its students were higher-performing back in fifth grade, before they set foot in the school. That said, it's possible that Butler's grandson would gain from attending a school with so many higher-performing, higher-income kids.

Then too, other things could happen:

It's possible that her grandson would be placed in a "remedial" math class, based on his relatively low math achievement level. This academic assignment might make perfect sense, but in this class, he wouldn't interact with the higher-performing kids who make the school higher-performing.

Here's something else which could happen:

It's possible that District 3's proposed "desegregation plan" might produce a bit of a backlash. School 54's higher-performing kids might look down on the lower-performing kids for whom seats at the school would be reserved under terms of the plan.

This backlash might even extend to the higher-performing black and Hispanic kids who already attend the school. As has sometimes happened elsewhere, white and Asian-American kids might start looking down on all their black and Hispanic schoolmates, assuming they all attend the school by dint of the proposed plan.

It's also possible that some families—white, black, Hispanic, Asian—might take their kids out of the New York City Public schools as a result of the plan. A certain number of higher-performing kids would end up at lower-performing West Prep as a result of the plan. Inevitably, a certain percentage of these kids would likely end up in parochial or private schools.

As everyone knows, these are the downsides which may sometimes tend to result from "desegregation plans" like the current District 3 proposal. Presumably, these are the sorts of downsides Mayor de Blasio had in mind when he spoke with the New York Times' Mara Gay, who proceeded to roast him for failing to "see the light" about "city-wide integration," as she herself has done.

Along the way, a deserving kid like Butler's grandson might end up doing better in class—or then again, he might not. But as we ponder all these possibilities, make no mistake about this:

Across New York City, across the nation, few such approaches can be taken with respect to our giant achievement gaps. In most urban settings, there is no School 54, just two blocks away, into which a small number of struggling kids can gain admission.

There's no such school in many of New York City's 33 other districts. Then too, consider Detroit:

New York City is a bit of an outlier among our big urban school systems. Its demographics make it stand out. According to Professor Reardon, those demographics looked like this in grades 3-8 during his recent nationwide study:
New York City Public Schools, grades 3-8
White kids: 15 percent
Black kids: 30 percent
Hispanic kids: 40 percent
Asian-American kids: 15 percent

Median family income: $42,000
Within the high-minded framework of the Times, New York City has an unusual number of "desirable" kids, as urban school systems go. In parts of the system like District 3, its schools retain an unusual number of middle- and upper-income kids. Most gloriously of all, the overall system is only 70% black and Hispanic!

The blinkered meliorists of the Times look on these data with pride. They rush to support "desegregation plans" which may save a few of the less desirable kids.

Whatever one thinks of District 3's proposed plan, such approaches are impossible almost everywhere else. Is Detroit, to cite one example, there's "nowhere to run to, nowhere to hide" for unhappy kids who are struggling in school. In Reardon's study, the Motor City's demographics looked like this:
Detroit Public Schools, grades 3-8
White kids: 2 percent
Black kids: 87 percent
Hispanic kids: 9 percent
Asian-American kids: 1 percent

Median family income: $27,000
School 54, where are you? There is no pool of higher-income white kids to draw on in Detroit. And the kids of Detroit need a lot of help. Below, you see some punishing data from last year's Naep math tests:
Average scores by percentiles, 2017 Naep
Grade 4 math, Detroit Public Schools

50th percentile: 199.23
25th percentile: 181.84

(National average: 239.16)

Grade 8 math, Detroit Public Schools
50th percentile: 244.25
25th percentile: 226.16

(National average: 281.96)
The river is very wide! Applying a very rough rule of thumb, the eighth-grader in Detroit who scored at the 50th percentile citywide was almost four years behind the nation's average eighth-grader in math.

That river is extremely wide—and twenty-five percent of Detroit's kids were substantially farther behind than that! Having said that, please understand:

Modern Detroit has no School 54's to which these kids can be sent. In Detroit, as in so many big cities, such schools simply don't exist.

"Can't forget the Motor City," Martha Reeves sang long ago. By now, it's much too late for any such thought as that.

By now, the struggling kids of Detroit have been completely forgotten. More accurately, they've been disappeared within our self-involved, upper-end "liberal" frameworks.

Their classroom struggles don't get discussed, and certainly not by seven- and eight-figure corporate stars like Rachel, Chris and Lawrence. Those kids don't count, don't even exist. Neither do millions of kids in other systems which have no School 54's.

We liberals! At the New York Times, we like to strut about District 3's plan. We like to fret about the mayor who hasn't yet "seen the light."

We posture about the handful of kids who might end up at School 54. All those other kids "across the nation" can just go hang in the yard.

Whatever one thinks of the District 3 plan, we can't "desegregate" our way out of our giant gaps! Tomorrow, though, we'll visit Chicago, to see what this peculiar type of posturing currently looks like there.

We'll recall de Blasio's crazy remark, in which he said that you could have good schools with just black and Hispanic kids! And we'll quote a third parent from District 3—a parent who, like everyone else, says we just need more "good schools."

Tomorrow: Everyone wants "good schools!"

Can so forget the Motor City: Reeves emerged from the Motor City in the early 1960s. To see her list the cities whose children have been abandoned by our big liberal stars, you can just click here.

In our view, that young person's smile, which couldn't be taught, was a statement about human greatness. On the other hand, Rachel has some wonderful entertainment product to fob off on you tonight.

69 comments:

  1. Detroit has school problems so Rachel Maddow shouldn't cover politics? On what planet?

    Of course smiles can be taught. That's what actors do, even child actors. But smiles have nothing to do with school performance or Rachel Maddow's show. There are cute smiles at the best schools and the worst schools. So what? Some people think lizards are cute too.

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    1. In What Happened, Hillary Clinton explained why school performance had nothing to do with Rachel Maddow's dogged pursuit of the Trump Russia investigation and why her multiple ignominious defeats explain the media's craven capability. There's also a bitchin recipe for flourless chocolate cake up in that bitch. WORD.

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    2. It was on page 172 of What Happened that Madame Secratary explained why her multiple losses can be blamed on high dietary fiber foods and the longging industry. She also explained why the media overhyped her fabulous success in Libya. And there was a section on how to be a better you for 2018.

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    3. In What Happened, Hillary talks about the time she met Snoop Dogg. And how they smoked marijuana back in the kitchen after reviewing programs that encouraged parents to sing to their children. Or occasionally scat to them. It was weird that she claims she took the meeting in flannel pajamas. Also, apparently her and Snoop saddled lambs. They rode lambs around the rest of the afternoon in the backyard which seems to me to be a little bit strange. But that is what it said in What Happened.

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    4. If it doesn't say bigotry is the reason she lost, it should be sold in the Fiction section of bookstores.

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    5. Of course it's bigotry! What else could it be?

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    6. It was, finally, good to see her defend the time she wore those assless pants to the Met Gala in her book, What Happened. What was it, 2007? She received so much unwarranted criticism for that at the time.

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    7. Someone doesn't like me referring to Hillary Clinton's book or talking about what happened from her perspective. I wonder why?

      At first, I thought this troll was just trying to participate but didn't have anything much to say, hence the worn out nonsense repeated over and over. Now I think this person has some reason to prevent people from buying her book. Who would have that motive? Maybe Russian trolls, maybe Trump's supporters, maybe Bernie supporters who bear a grudge. But probably this is just our resident schizophrenic on a different jag now that no one is talking about Stormy's body parts.

      Don't you have meds to take? Somewhere to be? A life? Maybe reading Hillary's memoir will give you some ideas about how to occupy your time productively, as she had to do once she was no longer a candidate or politician.

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    8. It's Russian trolls, for sure. I have it on good authority that every time a copy of The Book is sold, The Dark Lord Putin screams in agony!

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    9. Damn. Busted. It's true. I was instructed to troll obscure blogs to try to prevent people from buying a book that was released nine months ago.

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    10. https://youtu.be/Xka0KBGI4vU

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    11. You tell me why you waste your time this way.

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    12. Actually, one incredible thing in Hillary's book, What Happened, is when she defends the deplorables comment by citing a survey showing that around half of white Republicans had racist attitudes toward blacks.

      Which is absolutely incredible. Because the same survey said a third of her white supporters had racist attitudes towards blacks!

      You really can't make this stuff up. That is the level of her incompetence. Or whoever wrote the book. They didn't even look at the responses on the survey from her supporters!

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    13. http://fingfx.thomsonreuters.com/gfx/rngs/USA-ELECTION-RACE/010020H7174/USA-ELECTION-RACE.jpg

      Here's a graphic from the poll Hillary or her stupid ghost writer stupidly cited as evidence that the deplorables comment was correct. It's true, half of Trumps supporter's in the poll called blacks lazy and unintelligent. But a quarter of Hillary's supporters said the same thing!

      https://youtu.be/x1jQc9YAH1Y

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    14. But wouldn't you agree that someone who agrees that blacks are lazy etc is deplorable regardless of party or candidate supported?

      You obviously skipped the part where she said the remark was stupid and talked about the fact that candidates say stupid stuff inevitably. She went on to talk about the potential impact on her campaign of that remark and the way the press made hay with it. She didn't defend it, as you try to portray (and Somerby implied). Her book was largely not defensive and she took full responsibility for the things she did wrong.

      But why does anyone care about this now? She is not running for anything and you are wasting a great deal of time on her, treating her as if she were going to run in 2020 and needed to be prevented from that.

      Or, as a troll, you are willing to waste your own time under the mistaken assumption you are annoying others.

      Shall I remind you of the dark triad of personality traits held by trolls: Machiavellianism, narcissism, sociopathy. Not coincidentally, these are Trump's main traits too. Without our foreign enemies, Russia, intervening to destroy our political process, Trump would have remained a troll. Maybe you fantasize something like that will happen here. There will be a coup and you will unseat Somerby. Keep dreaming. And make sure you get a few dozen Russians to help you.

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    15. Hey, I voted for her. I wish she won. I'm upset because she was so fuckimg inept and idiotic to lose by saying stupid things and doing so many things wrong, as documented in her memoir, What Happened.

      It's true, let's not ever talk about that blithering idiot again. Good riddance!

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    16. That's the point. She didn't lose because she called anyone deplorable. Her book clearly outlines why she lost and it had everything to do with Comey, Russians and the media and nothing whatsoever to do with calling people deplorable.

      Those who didn't vote for her are the blithering idiots, Somerby included, if he went third party.

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    18. "It's Russian trolls, for sure."

      You ought to know, comrade.

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    19. You say "Her book was largely not defensive" and then

      "Her book clearly outlines why she lost and it had everything to do with Comey, Russians and the media"

      Yes and nothing to do with her idiotic, hapless campaign or her herself not being a great politician.

      Pull your head out of your ass. Are you going to be a sucker all your life?

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    20. Go read 538, Nate Silver's blog. He uses analysis of poll data to demonstrate the impact of various events. He talks about the models used to predict voting results all along and the impact of some of these factors on those models and polls. Hillary refers to these too. That's her basis for claiming that some things affected the outcome but others did not.

      As she points out, she is no more idiotic or hapless than any other candidate and certainly not as idiotic and hapless as Trump. And, she was winning despite all of her haplessness and idiocy, right up until Comey interfered.

      Theories must yield to data. Your insistence that Hillary lost herself and that the election wasn't stolen from her is just flat wrong. Referring to my head or ass doesn't change anything about that. Calling me names (sucker) doesn't either.

      She admitted her mistakes, but the data just doesn't support your view that she lost because of those mistakes.

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    22. "right up until Comey interfered"

      Tsk. Does it seem at all noteworthy to you that Comey interfered because your goddess' closest confidant's perv-husband, child-molesting former D congressman, kept a bunch of official emails together with kiddie porn on his personal laptop? Or does your 'narrative' go simply: "Comey interfered"?

      Just curious.

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    23. We'll have to disagree to disagree. I feel like she was far, far, far more hapless and idiotic than Trump in the campaign. It wasn't even close. He murdered her. But you say you are certain that they were both hapless and idiotic. We don't see that the same way. Anyway. You're right, we should probably not even be discussing something that's over. Let's just please pray to God as she goes and hides under a rock and never ever ever ever comes out again. I mean seriously, she tries to claim Trump supporters are racist by presenting the poll that says 25% of her supporters think blacks are lazy and unintelligent? We have to work on our party and what is next. We have to be less ignorant than that. The fact she would actually print something like after losing the election and amidst blanket claims of racism leveled on Trump supporters shows you the massive intelligence and ignorance of our party these days. We are totally lost in the woods. We turn to statisticians who predicted Hillary would win for proof of why she lost. What the hell is the matter with us? But you're right, let's please please do whatever we can to avoid hapless, perennial, two-time losers like her and the massive, delusional ignorance she brought to the whole affair. Let's find somebody smarter, somebody that can win. We'll have to get lucky. There's no one lurking out there on the horizon.

      I personally think of third-party candidate will come along like happened in France. Someone to split it down the middle. Who needs the Democrats? The party of perennial losers who, by our own logic, offer proof of others racism by showing studies that prove a quarter of us are racists.

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  2. Btw, the NYC statistics average in all of the boroughs, so they don't relate well to these two UWS schools. Lower Harlem is considerably different now than, say, most of the Bronx. But they're still both near a couple of very big (though increasingly desirable) housing projects right off of Central Park West there.

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  3. "Whatever one thinks of the District 3 plan, we can't "desegregate" our way out of our giant gaps!"

    In fairness, who ever said that desegregating schools would solve all of education's problems?

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  4. Clearly, these paragons of morality have the Harrison Bergeron plan in mind. They know damn well that blacks will never 'catch up.'

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  5. "By now, the struggling kids of Detroit have been completely forgotten. More accurately, they've been disappeared within our self-involved, upper-end "liberal" frameworks."

    And thank god for that. If they weren't forgotten/disappeared, imagine what sort of mind-numbing zombie drivel you'd have to listen to.

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  9. I am very happy today with my family. My name is rose sarah living in USA, My husband left me for a good 3 years now, and i love him so much, i have been looking for a way to get him back since then. i have tried many options but he did not come back, until i met a friend that darted me to Dr.Jude a spell caster, who helped me to bring back my husband after 2 weeks. Me and my husband are living happily together today, That man is great, you can contact him via email liberationlovespell@gmail.com… Now i will advice any serious persons that found themselves in this kind of problem to contact him now a fast solution without steress.. He always hello, now i call him my father.contact him now he is always online email (liberationlovespell@gmail.com) or contact him on his whatsapp mobile line +2348034062173

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  10. I am very happy today with my family. My name is rose sarah living in USA, My husband left me for a good 3 years now, and i love him so much, i have been looking for a way to get him back since then. i have tried many options but he did not come back, until i met a friend that darted me to Dr.Jude a spell caster, who helped me to bring back my husband after 2 weeks. Me and my husband are living happily together today, That man is great, you can contact him via email liberationlovespell@gmail.com… Now i will advice any serious persons that found themselves in this kind of problem to contact him now a fast solution without steress.. He always hello, now i call him my father.contact him now he is always online email (liberationlovespell@gmail.com) or contact him on his whatsapp mobile line +2348034062173

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  11. i am Michelle Bradley by name. Greetings to every one that is reading this testimony. I have been rejected by my husband after three(3) years of marriage just because another woman had a spell on him and he left me and the kid to suffer. one day when i was reading through the web, i saw a post on how this spell caster on this address astoriashrine@gmail.com, have help a woman to get back her husband and i gave him a reply to his address and he told me that a woman had a spell on my husband and he told me that he will help me and after 3 days that i will have my husband back. i believed him and today i am glad to let you all know that this spell caster have the power to bring lovers back. because i am now happy with my husband. Thanks for helping me Dr.Paul contact him on email: astoriashrine@gmail.com Dr Paul TEMPLE..or him on Whats-app+2349051441669
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  12. i am Michelle Bradley by name. Greetings to every one that is reading this testimony. I have been rejected by my husband after three(3) years of marriage just because another woman had a spell on him and he left me and the kid to suffer. one day when i was reading through the web, i saw a post on how this spell caster on this address astoriashrine@gmail.com, have help a woman to get back her husband and i gave him a reply to his address and he told me that a woman had a spell on my husband and he told me that he will help me and after 3 days that i will have my husband back. i believed him and today i am glad to let you all know that this spell caster have the power to bring lovers back. because i am now happy with my husband. Thanks for helping me Dr.Paul contact him on email: astoriashrine@gmail.com Dr Paul TEMPLE..or him on Whats-app+2349051441669
    You can as well click on this link here ( https://youtu.be/ha4M9h_2WCo) to watch his video on YouTube. He recently restored back my relationship again with his powers.

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    My Name Olivia Stephen form Tx,USA. After 12years of marriage, me and my husband has been into one quarrel or the other until he finally left me and moved to California to be with another woman. I felt my life was over and my kids thought they would never see their father again. i tried to be strong just for the kids but i could not control the pains that torments my heart, my heart was filled with sorrows and pains because i was really in love with my husband. Every day and night i think of him and always wish he would come back to me, I was really upset and i needed help, so i searched for help online and I came across a website that suggested that Dr Unity can help get ex back fast. So, I felt I should give him a try. I contacted him and he told me what to do and i did it then he did a Love spell for me. 28 hours later, my husband really called me and told me that he miss me and the kids so much, So Amazing!! So that was how he came back that same day,with lots of love and joy,and he apologized for his mistake,and for the pain he caused me and the kids. Then from that day,our Marriage was now stronger than how it were before, All thanks to Dr Unity. he is so powerful and i decided to share my story on the internet that Dr.Unity real and powerful spell caster who i will always pray to live long to help his children in the time of trouble, if you are here and you need your Ex back or your husband moved to another woman, do not cry anymore, contact this powerful spell caster now. Here’s his contact
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  14. i am Michelle Bradley by name. Greetings to every one that is reading this testimony. I have been rejected by my husband after three(3) years of marriage just because another woman had a spell on him and he left me and the kid to suffer. one day when i was reading through the web, i saw a post on how this spell caster on this address astoriashrine@gmail.com, have help a woman to get back her husband and i gave him a reply to his address and he told me that a woman had a spell on my husband and he told me that he will help me and after 3 days that i will have my husband back. i believed him and today i am glad to let you all know that this spell caster have the power to bring lovers back. because i am now happy with my husband. Thanks for helping me Dr.Paul contact him on email: astoriashrine@gmail.com Dr Paul TEMPLE..or him on Whats-app+2349051441669
    You can as well click on this link here ( https://youtu.be/ha4M9h_2WCo) to watch his video on YouTube. He recently restored back my relationship again with his powers.

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  15. i am Michelle Bradley by name. Greetings to every one that is reading this testimony. I have been rejected by my husband after three(3) years of marriage just because another woman had a spell on him and he left me and the kid to suffer. one day when i was reading through the web, i saw a post on how this spell caster on this address astoriashrine@gmail.com, have help a woman to get back her husband and i gave him a reply to his address and he told me that a woman had a spell on my husband and he told me that he will help me and after 3 days that i will have my husband back. i believed him and today i am glad to let you all know that this spell caster have the power to bring lovers back. because i am now happy with my husband. Thanks for helping me Dr.Paul contact him on email: astoriashrine@gmail.com Dr Paul TEMPLE..or him on Whats-app+2349051441669
    You can as well click on this link here ( https://youtu.be/ha4M9h_2WCo) to watch his video on YouTube. He recently restored back my relationship again with his powers.

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  16. Hello, are you crying that your wife has left you and the kids for another man, you don't have to cry anymore because i was in the same position till i heard about Dr OBA how he has help so many people in their relationship today i can boldly recommend Dr,OBA to anyone who need help. He did not fail me i also believe he can not fail you too. he is indeed a miracle worker.I have tried so many spell casters and psychic after my lover left me. Dr OBA was the only spell caster who could help me..For sure this is really a prosperity temple where you can get back your ex lover. Dr OBA cast a love spell and my wife changed for good, he made her a better woman and distanced all her secret lovers. I am happy to have a united family, it couldn't be possible without the effort of Dr OBA . My wife is back with full of love and sincerity. Make contact with Dr OBA for relationship help Email him at; drobaspellhome902@gmail.com or call him on +2348154692747 . and share a wonderful testimony just like me.

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  18. My Dear friends online, My name is amanda bella And i live in USA, ohio, I have to give this miraculous testimony, which is so unbelievable until now. I had a problem with my Ex husband 2 years ago, which lead to our break up. I was not myself again, i felt so empty inside me, my love and financial situation became worst, until a close friend of mine told me about a spell caster who helped her in the same problem too his name is Doctor Jude. I email the spell caster and i told him my problem and i did what he asked of me, to cut the long story short. Before i knew what was happen, less than two days my husband gave me a call and told me that he was coming back to me i was so happy to have him back to me. The most interesting part of the story is that am pregnant. Thanks to Doctor jude for saving my marriage and for also saving others own too. Continue your good work, If you are interested to contact the great spell caster email address: liberationlovespell@gmail.com or contact him on whatsapp +2348034062173

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  19. My Dear friends online, My name is amanda bella And i live in USA, ohio, I have to give this miraculous testimony, which is so unbelievable until now. I had a problem with my Ex husband 2 years ago, which lead to our break up. I was not myself again, i felt so empty inside me, my love and financial situation became worst, until a close friend of mine told me about a spell caster who helped her in the same problem too his name is Doctor Jude. I email the spell caster and i told him my problem and i did what he asked of me, to cut the long story short. Before i knew what was happen, less than two days my husband gave me a call and told me that he was coming back to me i was so happy to have him back to me. The most interesting part of the story is that am pregnant. Thanks to Doctor jude for saving my marriage and for also saving others own too. Continue your good work, If you are interested to contact the great spell caster email address: liberationlovespell@gmail.com or contact him on whatsapp +2348034062173

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  21. Powerful Effective Love Spell Get Your Ex Back About a month ago I got back to my ex(after 2 and half years separated).Everything was ok and she was the most adorable woman in the world. she spoke about wedding ceremony, how many kids we would have, said that our relationship was the most important thing in her life and he was 100% sure about it…Then he traveled to work in other country for 3 weeks. he changed his behavior completely. he disappeared every night, was saying she had to do some work and would talk to me later, but disappeared the rest of the day and night… no explanation, when I asked why she was disappearing every night, she stopped answering me. she’s ignoring me since last week, April 15. she ignored even my birthday, that was April 16. Not even a message. I wrote to her a few times trying to understand what happened, she read but just ignored me.I feel so bad cause I couldn’t stop contacting and trying to understand what happened.i loved her so much and wanted to get her back, then i was told to contact happylovespell2@gmail.com who can help out with a love spell to reunite your relationship back, so instantly do contact him and give him a try and trust me he did an urgent effective love spell for me and with 46hours promise he made to me, my woman was back, today i testify to you all that you should seek and contact Dr happy for his spell result is genuine sure and guarantee unite and get your ex back save your marriage/relationship problem now, email happlovespell2@gmail.com you can also know more about his spell Blogs site.http://happylovespel.blogspot.com.ng/ Whatsapp/cal +2348133873774 Web http://happylovespel.webs.com/

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  22. How i got my Ex hubby with the help of Dr Ukugba temple.
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  23. I am very happy today with my family. My name is Sabine living in USA, My husband left me for a good 3 years now, and i love him so much, i have been looking for a way to get him back since then. i have tried many options but he did not come back, until i met a friend that darted me to Dr.love a spell caster, who helped me to bring back my husband after 2 weeks. Me and my husband are living happily together today, That man is great, you can contact him via email oduguspellcaster@gmail.com Now i will advice any serious persons that found themselves in this kind of problem to contact him now a fast solution without stress.. He always hello, now i call him my father.contact him now he is always online email oduguspellcaster@gmail.com

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  24. Hi everyone I'm HAPPY and am here to share the wonderful work of Dr Adoda did for me. After 5 years in my marriage with my husband with 2 kids, my husband started acting weird and going out with other ladies and showed me cold love, on several occasions he threatens to divorce me if I dare question him about his affair with other ladies, I was totally devastated and confused until i read about a testymoney of Dr Adoda on the internet who help people with relationship and marriage problem. At first I doubted if such thing ever exists but decided to give it a try, when I contact him, he helped me cast a love spell and within 48hours my husband came back to me and started apologizing, now he has stopped going out with other ladies and his with me for good and for real. Contact this great love spell caster for your relationship or marriage problem to be solved today via email: adodalovespelltemple@gmail.com 0r whatsapp him on +2348112825421. You can as well click on this link ( https://youtu.be/bct3VhtQhqI ) to watch his video on YouTube or website ( http://Adodalovespelltemple.site123.me ) if you have similar problem, or any solution you may need help ,Good Luck to anyone who find this man.

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  25. i want to use this medium to testify of how i got back my ex husband after divorce, i and my husband have been married for 8 years with 2 kids, we have been a happy family. Last year his behavior towards me and the kids changed, i suspected he was meeting another woman outside out marriage, any time i confronted him, he threatened to divorce me, i did all i could to make hings right but all to no avail until i saw a post on a "love and relationship forum" about a spell caster who helps people to cast spell on marriage and relationship issues, when i contacted this spell caster via email, he helped me cast a re-union spell and my husband changed and came apologizing to me and the kids. Contact this great spell caster for your relationship or marriage issues via this email: or Whats App him on +2349065398067 Good luck

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  26. I feel so blessed again in my marriage after Doctor Oku brought back my husband that separated with me for good 3 mounths. Am Jessica Butler by name from Los Angeles. Even though i have mouths all over my body, it won't be enough to thank Doctor Oku for his help upon my life. My husband separated with me for the 3 months and have been in pains and agony without him. So, i searched for help everywhere but nothing worked out not until i meant Doctor Oku who i contacted online. I explained my situation to him and he promised that my husband will get back to me within 24 to 48 hours as far that my heart still beats for him. I believed in him and he prepared a spell for me and my husband called me exactly when Doctor Oku said. He pleaded and said he needs me back and now we are living happily again for the past 9 months. Everyone out there reading my article that needs help should contact him... Email: okutemple@gmail.com or whats-app him +2347053113465

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  27. I feel so blessed again in my marriage after Doctor Oku brought back my husband that separated with me for good 3 mounths. Am Jessica Butler by name from Los Angeles. Even though i have mouths all over my body, it won't be enough to thank Doctor Oku for his help upon my life. My husband separated with me for the 3 months and have been in pains and agony without him. So, i searched for help everywhere but nothing worked out not until i meant Doctor Oku who i contacted online. I explained my situation to him and he promised that my husband will get back to me within 24 to 48 hours as far that my heart still beats for him. I believed in him and he prepared a spell for me and my husband called me exactly when Doctor Oku said. He pleaded and said he needs me back and now we are living happily again for the past 9 months. Everyone out there reading my article that needs help should contact him... Email: okutemple@gmail.com or whats-app him +2347053113465

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  28. I read some testimonies about a love spell caster by DR LOVE on how he has helped lots of people in bringing back their ex lovers within 48hours, Sincerely I was just thinking if that was real and if this man could really help bring back my lover whom I love so much. I decided to contact him because I love my boyfriend very much and we have been apart for a couple of months I really missed him so much, I have tried all other means to get him back but couldnt.I contacted DR LOVE and he told me that my ex will come back to me in the next 48 hours,DR LOVE released him up to know how much i loved and wanted him. And opened his eyes to picture how much we have share together. My ex is now back to me again.As I`m writing this testimony right now I`m the most happiest girl on earth and me and my boyfriend is living a happy life and our love is now stronger than how it were even before our break up.All thanks goes to DR LOVE for the excessive work that he has done for me by helping me to get back with my ex boyfriend. I would like to drop DR LOVE mail address and hope you see this testimony and contact him if you have a lover that you really want back so badly, His mail:drlovetemple@gmail.com.or you can whatspp him on this Number +2348145397412

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  29. GREAT LOVE SPELL CASTER LORD JUMA THAT HELP ME SAVE MY RELATIONSHIP.TEXT OR ADD HIM UP ON WHATSAPP: +1 (859)-203-2241

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  30. it is 3 years now since i and my ex husband reunited through the powerful love spell of Dr Henry. i once thought there was no more hope after getting divorced out of my 8 years marriage, but my view of this changed when my friend introduced me to voodoo spells and magics . I was opportune to get in contact with Dr. Henry, the man who returned my ex husband's love back to me in 24 hours after 5 years of separation. My life was in a deep mess before i experienced his life changing love spells which have still kept me happily married till now. You could also solve your marriage cases and get your ex's love back by consulting Dr. Henry on permanentspellcast@yahoo.com or permanentspellcast@gmail.com

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  31. Hello everyone in this forum, i will keep sharing my own experience with the world what Dr JOHN has done for me, he cure my HIV/AIDS. i was suffering from HIV/aids for more than 3 years until i got the email of this great healer from the Internet and choose to give him a trial to see if he can really help me. to my greatest surprise this man help me with his herbal medicine and now my pains are all gone, i went to the hospital to do some test and the result came out negative. i am free from my HIV/aids sickness and i a very happy now, i will like you to help me thank this great healer Dr JOHN on his email: drjohnhivcurehome@gmail.com You can reach him through his whats-app +2347064365391 truly here is a really healing home of all sickness. CAN AS WELL CURE THE FOLLOWING DISEASE:-
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  32. Hello everyone in this forum, i will keep sharing my own experience with the world what Dr JOHN has done for me, he cure my HIV/AIDS. i was suffering from HIV/aids for more than 3 years until i got the email of this great healer from the Internet and choose to give him a trial to see if he can really help me. to my greatest surprise this man help me with his herbal medicine and now my pains are all gone, i went to the hospital to do some test and the result came out negative. i am free from my HIV/aids sickness and i a very happy now, i will like you to help me thank this great healer Dr JOHN on his email: drjohnhivcurehome@gmail.com You can reach him through his whats-app +2347064365391 truly here is a really healing home of all sickness. CAN AS WELL CURE THE FOLLOWING DISEASE:-
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  33. Hello everyone, i'm Megan Alfred by name, lives in Texas. I want to thank Dr. Jatto for bring joy and happiness to my relationship and my family. I lost my boyfriend, and I needed help until I met with Dr. Jatto the true sorcerer, and he assured me that I will have my boyfriend back in two days after the spell has been cast in two days later, my phone rang, and surprisingly so was my boyfriend, who has not called me for a long time, and made an apology for heart break, and he said that he is willing to devote the rest of his life with me . princess wave released him to know how much he loved me and wanted him right now .. me and my boyfriend is living a happy life and our love is stronger than the way they were even before our break up .. All thanks to Dr. Jatto by excessive work he has done for me. Below is the email in the situation that is being subjected to a heart break, and I assure you that as mine has done for me, it will definitely help too. Email:drjattolovespelltemple@gmail.com or drjattolovespelltemple@yahoo.co.uk or his Mobil:+27832193146 or you can also view his Website: http://drjatto.website2.me

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  34. After been in pain and sorrow for over 7 years it was Dr JOHN that cured me from Hepatitis B Virus, I got infected with Hepatitis B Disease in 2010 and I have visited several herbalists, spiritualists and pastors for cure me but all was in avail, my world was gradually coming to an end until i saw a post in a health forum about a herbal medicine from Africa who have and herbal medicine to cure all kinds of deadly diseases including HERPES ,WALTER,HIV AIDS, ALS, HPV, MND, Epilepsy, Leukemia, Asthma, Cancer, Ghonorhea,Hepatitis B etc, at first i doubted if it was real but decided to give it a try, when i contact this herbalist via his email, drjohnhivcurehome@gmail.com he prepared a herbal medicine portion and sent it to me via DHL Delivery when i received this herbal medicine portion, he gave me step by step instructions on how to apply it, when i applied it as instructed, i was cured of this deadly disease within A Month, I am now Hepatitis B Negative. all thanks to Dr JOHN Contact this great herbalist called Dr JOHN his email: drjohnhivcurehome@gmail.com ,or Call/WhatsApp him on:+2347064365391

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  35. After been in pain and sorrow for over 7 years it was Dr JOHN that cured me from Hepatitis B Virus, I got infected with Hepatitis B Disease in 2010 and I have visited several herbalists, spiritualists and pastors for cure me but all was in avail, my world was gradually coming to an end until i saw a post in a health forum about a herbal medicine from Africa who have and herbal medicine to cure all kinds of deadly diseases including HERPES ,WALTER,HIV AIDS, ALS, HPV, MND, Epilepsy, Leukemia, Asthma, Cancer, Ghonorhea,Hepatitis B etc, at first i doubted if it was real but decided to give it a try, when i contact this herbalist via his email, drjohnhivcurehome@gmail.com he prepared a herbal medicine portion and sent it to me via DHL Delivery when i received this herbal medicine portion, he gave me step by step instructions on how to apply it, when i applied it as instructed, i was cured of this deadly disease within A Month, I am now Hepatitis B Negative. all thanks to Dr JOHN Contact this great herbalist called Dr JOHN his email: drjohnhivcurehome@gmail.com ,or Call/WhatsApp him on:+2347064365391

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  36. After been in pain and sorrow for over 7 years it was Dr JOHN that cured me from Hepatitis B Virus, I got infected with Hepatitis B Disease in 2010 and I have visited several herbalists, spiritualists and pastors for cure me but all was in avail, my world was gradually coming to an end until i saw a post in a health forum about a herbal medicine from Africa who have and herbal medicine to cure all kinds of deadly diseases including HERPES ,WALTER,HIV AIDS, ALS, HPV, MND, Epilepsy, Leukemia, Asthma, Cancer, Ghonorhea,Hepatitis B etc, at first i doubted if it was real but decided to give it a try, when i contact this herbalist via his email, drjohnhivcurehome@gmail.com he prepared a herbal medicine portion and sent it to me via DHL Delivery when i received this herbal medicine portion, he gave me step by step instructions on how to apply it, when i applied it as instructed, i was cured of this deadly disease within A Month, I am now Hepatitis B Negative. all thanks to Dr JOHN Contact this great herbalist called Dr JOHN his email: drjohnhivcurehome@gmail.com ,or Call/WhatsApp him on:+2347064365391

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