Hank Williams spoke of the "cold, cold heart!"

FRIDAY, JUNE 5, 2020

Last evening, we saw one with Lawrence:
Long ago and far away, Hank Williams introduced the concept of the person with the "cold, cold heart."

Many such people are out and about playing on our own liberal team. Consider what happened last night on Lawrence O'Donnell's program.

Midway through the program, O'Donnell discussed the three new arrests in Minneapolis. He described a remarkable situation involving two of these officers:
O'DONNELL (6/4/20): In Minneapolis today, a judge set a bail of $750,000 for each of the three police officers who were arrested and charged yesterday in the murder of George Floyd—Thomas Lane, Alexander Kueng and Tou Thao.

Defense lawyers told the court that Thomas Lane and Alexander Kueng had been on the police force for only four days when the incident occurred and that Derek Chauvin, who pressed his knee into George Floyd's neck for 8 minutes and 46 seconds, was a training officer.

Defense lawyer for Thomas Lane said in court, "What is my client supposed to do other than follow what the training officer said?"
As we've been noting this week, two of the officers—Lane and Kueng—were rookies. They found themselves at the scene of an incident with a superior officer who seems to be out of his mind.

According to O'Donnell, defense lawyers tried to sharpen the moral dilemma. They said that Lane and Kueng were in their fourth day on the job, and that the crackpot Chauvin was a training officer.

Had Chauvin been assigned as Lane's training officer in some formal sense? We can't answer your question. We're not sure that Lawrence got every fact right. A fuller report of yesterday's hearing appeared on the front page of today's New York Times.

Back to what happened on the day George Floyd was senselessly killed:

Somewhat oddly, the two rookies seemed to be on patrol together. They arrived at the scene in the first car to respond to the call concerning a possible crime.

Chauvin and Thao, both experienced officers, arrived in a separate car a bit later. Eventually, Chauvin took control of the situation and began choking Floyd to death.

Were Lane and Kueng really in just their fourth day on the job? The Times report quotes Lane's lawyer saying this:
BARKER ET AL (6/5/20): Earl Gray, the lawyer representing Mr. Lane, 37, told the court that Mr. Chauvin was a training officer for new officers. He said that the day Mr. Floyd died was Mr. Lane’s fourth day on the force.

“They’re required to call him ‘Sir,’” Mr. Gray told the court.
“He has 20 years’ experience. What is my client supposed to do but to follow what the training officer said? Is that aiding and abetting a crime?”
According to the Times report, Kueng's lawyer said that Kueng was only on his third shift as a full-fledged officer.

O'Donnell seemed to see a moral quandary here.. But O'Donnell's guest has a cold, cold heart, and her responses to Lawrence's questions provide a lesson for us modern liberals.

O'Donnell's guest was Professor Murray of the NYU Law School. Lawrence asked her what she thought about this unusual situation.

Below, you see what was said:
O'DONNELL (6/4/20): Professor Murray, what do you make of what we heard, from the defense attorney anyway, in Minneapolis today, saying that these two officers were only on the force for four days, and that they were simply obeying what their training officer was telling them to do?

PROFESSOR MURRAY: Well, I guess we're getting a glimpse of what the defense will be for these three officers as they mount their defense to these charges of aiding and abetting. And the idea here is that these are junior officers following the chain of command.

Chauvin was a more experienced officer and he was setting the pace and the tone of this encounter.
For starters, the august professor didn't seem to have the basic facts right. Only two of the officers were rookies (junior officers), not three.

Thao, an experienced officer, was patrolling with Chauvin that day. According to the Times, he has already "cooperated with investigators" in some undisclosed way.

That's a mere factual matter. We were more struck by the robotic way the professor offered a useless recitation, one an alert third grader could have provided for Lawrence.

Aside from her mistake about Officer Thao, the professor simply regurgitated a few blindingly obvious facts. Most strikingly, she showed no sign that she was being asked about a situation which may have an unusual moral component.

Later, Lawrence gave her a second bite at the apple. Again, she showed no sign of understanding. We give Lawrence some credit for seeming to see the moral dilemma here, but he didn't require his august guest to address it.

Let us explain what's happening:

Those four-day wonders have been assigned the role of scapegoats in this horrible matter. They're being asked to pay the price for a wide range of failed elites.

What happened can't be the police chief's fault. After all, he took a knee last weekend. CNN declared him a hero.

It can't be Attorney General Ellison's fault. Heroically, he decided to lock them all up, the very task the crowd had once asked of Pilate.

Last night, along came Professor Murray with a cold, cold heart. Warning to modern-day liberals:

Our tribal elite are often like this. They'll run with the current tribal line, full and complete total stop.

They'll recognize nothing else. They'll display no wisdom and no compassion. They'll offer no reaction which lie outside the current ideas of the tribe.

Their tribal standing, and their career status, will always come first. Those rookie cops were in the wrong place. They'll just have to get killed now in jail.

More from the Times report: Much as we have noted:
BARKER ET AL: [Kueng's] lawyer also argued that Mr. Kueng, who is African-American, and Mr. Lane, who is white, had tried to stop Mr. Chauvin.

“At multiple times, Mr. Kueng and Mr. Lane directed their attention to that 19-year veteran and said, ‘You shouldn’t do this,’” Mr. Plunkett said.
We're afraid that won't be enough. And, of course, these basic facts have gone unreported and undiscussed all week.

It can't be the police chief's fault for leaving a person like Chauvin on the force and in charge out on the street. Lane and Kueng have been cast in the scapegoat role, and no one will break with the tribe.

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    1. Somerby thinks this matters. It doesn't.

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    3. (Jesus, I can't type today) What do you mean?

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    4. A rookie is still a police officer with all of the responsibilities of any other officer. Further, they had completed their formal training. Like any new employee, they were probationary and Chauvin was supervising their work. But they were not untrained and they knew their duties and responsibilities from their training. If a police officer with years of experience makes a lateral transfer from one police force to another, they too will be rookies despite their prior experience.

      You might expect a rookie to be better acquainted with their right to refuse an illegal order and their responsibility to protect the public from illegal acts, even by other officers, not less aware. Their formal training about ethics and rules is more recent.

      That's why it doesn't matter that they were rookies.

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    5. Why did you remove your comment?

      Note that it is O'Donnell who supplied the info, not Somerby. Somerby is the one who thinks the rookie should be treated more leniently than his supervisor. I think they should all be held to the same standard of performance.

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    6. Also, it is useful to remember that those rookie officers were the only people at the scene who were legally allowed to intervene. The civilian bystanders were prohibited from doing that. If Floyd’s life was going to be saved, it had to be those rookie cops to do it.

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    7. I removed it because I hadn't read the whole thing and didn't know that it came from O'Donnell, a cable millionaire talker, a group which my original comment trashed. As far as the officers all being treated the same. These guys will have lawyers who will note the the knee to the neck procedure of restraint was perfectly legal in Minneapolis. This is going end like all the rest of these type of cases--with acquittal, or with drastically reduced charges for Chauvin alone.

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    8. At least there will be a trial. They have already been fired. You can't ask for more than that and still be fair to the officers involved.

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    9. “ This is going end like all the rest of these type of cases--with acquittal, or with drastically reduced charges for Chauvin alone.”

      Perhaps that’s Ellison’s goal. Up the charges and it’s harder to get a conviction and go after two rookies, in an untenable situation, like they were the guards at Auschwitz.

      They get an acquittal and it’s more politically charged protests during an election.


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    10. Cecelia, you do realize that the guards at Auschwitz were convicted, don't you? "I was just following orders" is not an excuse for taking someone's life.

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    11. That’s why I referenced it. That’s the argument being used for charging these men and it’s not appropriate. It’s literally overkill.

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    12. It never should have come to this. Eight and a half minutes, and not one good guy with a gun.
      It's mind-boggling.

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    13. The German guards weren't convicted of murder. And it was repeated behavior.

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    14. They were convicted of being accomplices to murder because the orders were given by someone else.

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  2. "Hank Williams introduced the concept of the person with the "cold, cold heart.""

    Hank Williams wrote about lack of trust in a romantic relationship (due to prior experiences with men). He was not writing about lack of empathy. Hank wasn't saying that the woman lacked feeling but that she was misjudging his efforts to please her, due to mistreatment in the past.

    This song has no relevance whatsoever to this current situation. Hank Williams might or might not support Somerby's views, but his song had nothing to do with anything happening now.

    I happen to like that song, as many people do. I don't like anything that Somerby has written, and I dislike the way Somerby grabs familiar and even cherished pop culture items as hooks for his dubious opinions. He should stop this, because it is not only annoying, but fundamentally dishonest in the way it distorts another person's intended meanings.

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    1. Perhaps going here will help. Look for the words “derivative work.”

      I don't like anything that Somerby has written,….

      What are you doing here then?

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    2. Corby, I think the song is spectacularly on target precisely for the references to past suffering and loss.

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    3. I only come here to read your comments.

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    4. Cecelia, the song is great. Somerby's use of it doesn't fit the circumstances of this situation. He is tone deaf about such things.

      Also, not Corby.

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    5. Anonymice3:08pm, if you consider that what we’re seeing here is an old injury in our country. A wound we harbored in our heart of hearts for two centuries. Suffered it afresh at the hands of uncaring people, again and again through that sea of time.

      How out of context is it to wonder if we’ve grown as cold and vindictive as the people who have hurt us.

      How can you not see this? We’ve spent the past week justifying it.

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    6. Cecelia, if you use the song as that kind of metaphor, the wounded ones (female role) are African Americans, and Hank would be asking them why their hearts are cold, cold, why they don't appreciate all the effort made to please them, why they don't understand that white people today are not like white people in the past.

      It doesn't work at all. In fact, it is offensive.

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    7. There is the phenomenon of National suffering with our country’s history. That doesn’t diminish the personal injustice.

      Again and again we try to find justice...remedies... for this historic wrong and the new wrongs that crop up to remind us of our past.

      It’s a brilliant metaphor.



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    8. I only come here to read your comments.

      Well, OK then.

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    9. Cecelia, go play the song.

      If you think our nation has suffered more than African Americans, you are nuts. Equating African American suffering to a romantic relationship is nuts. Slaves were brought here against their will. They didn't sign up for this. New wrongs are just the same old wrongs. In Hank Williams' song, the singer (Hank) isn't mistreating his love but our country continues to mistreat black people. But more than that, equating a people's suffering to romantic disappointment is minimizing it. Comparing this protest to a wronged woman's pique is contemptuous of African American suffering.

      Somerby shouldn't have done that. He diminishes the importance of this protest, belittles it. There is nothing brilliant about it.

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    10. TDH liked the phrase "cold cold heart" so he grabbed it. He may not even remember the rest of the song. He doesn't care if it fits or not.

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    11. Anonymouse4:23pm, that is not what I said. Our nation is comprised of people who are black (and other races).

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    12. Our country is all those things.

      We are the aggrieved, we are those who aggrieve, we are the lover who longs to prove his sincere love.

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    13. Jeez. Is this for real? Poe's Law in its purest form.

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    14. African Americans at least have it better than the Indians, all of whom we raped, slaughtered and then pulled out our dicks and pissed on.

      My God, we love to kill. So, so much.

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  3. "They found themselves at the scene of an incident with a superior officer who seems to be out of his mind."

    Now Somerby is going to try to tell us that Chauvin, who he calls a crackpot, was not racist but crazy, and thus deserves to be pitied.

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  4. No one is preparing for what is to come: The likely acquitals of those three officers, and Chauvin only getting convicted of a lesser charge, like excessive force.

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    1. If Chauvin is convicted of anything, it is hard to see how he can avoid being convicted of at least manslaughter given that Floyd is dead.

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    2. You're forgeting all the other cases where no cops were convicted of anything. Furgeson, Baltimore, Charlotte, etc.

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  5. "Eventually, Chauvin took control of the situation and began choking Floyd to death."

    Chauvin pulled Floyd out of the police car, where he was already sitting handcuffed, and placed him face down on the ground, with his knee on Floyd's neck and his weight on his back, while Floyd complained about being unable to breathe.

    This is what Somerby calls "taking control of the situation." Who talks like that? He should perhaps have said he was dominating the battleground, I suppose. But this is an example of how Somerby's choice of words puts a thumb on the scale on behalf of the cops.

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    1. This is what Somerby calls "taking control of the situation." Who talks like that?

      Someone relaying the reported the facts. TDH starts with “Chauvin and Thao, both experienced officers, arrived in a separate car a bit later." That is, there were two veteran cops on the scene, and Chauvin took the role of lead officer, with the others in support.

      But this is an example of how Somerby's choice of words puts a thumb on the scale on behalf of the cops.

      TDH ends up by saying that Chauvin who seemed “to be out of his mind” “began choking Floyd to death.”

      Yeah, that seems likely to tip the scales in favor of the cops.

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    2. Chauvin didn’t appear to be “out of his mind” at all. He was quite calm, peering into the bystanders’ cell phones as they were filming him, and as Floyd was pleading for his life.

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    3. What’s you’re point, mh? That the protests actually have some mysterious validity?

      Chauvin was out of his mind – to any thinking, at least semi-normal person, who realized at some point that they were watching a snuff flick.

      Try to catch up.

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    4. No, Leroy. People are protesting the brutality of Chauvin’s act and the belief that it represents systemic brutality amongst police. Chauvin’s act is held to be deliberate and evil and part of police culture. They are not protesting because Chauvin was “out of his mind.” Saying he is “out of his mind” would indicate that he was insane. Somerby calls him both a crackpot and potentially a sociopath. Those terms are not synonymous. You do realize that sociopathy is no defense in a courtroom don’t you? Whereas, insanity can be a mitigating factor. Chauvin is not insane. After all, he was merely executing police procedure. No?

      And, please do not make condescending remarks to me in the future, OK?

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    5. Is Chauvin representative of systemic police brutality?

      Is Chauvin with his 12 infractions representative of how things are done elsewhere?

      How many of Chauvin’s infractions involve black people?

      There’s been a hell of a lot of violence and mayhem based upon things we don’t know.

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    6. mh, you're a bore. And dumb, too.

      Leroy

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    7. We know there was no good guy with a gun while the cops killed George Floyd. Makes me wonder if the cops knew the gun owners were busy ( an NRA convention across town, maybe), and this was all pre-meditated by the police officers.

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    9. “We know there was no good guy with a gun while the cops killed George Floyd. Makes me wonder if the cops knew the gun owners were busy ( an NRA convention across town, maybe), and this was all pre-meditated by the police officers.“

      I know you’re trying to be cute, but you have to have some semblance of reality to pull even that off.

      This happened in Minneapolis. How plausible is it for you to suggest that on the scene there was a myriad of gun packing rednecks who looked the other way because it was a black man in trouble?

      After all that’s gone down, you very likely will have a surge in gun ownership in the whole of Minnesota, but this incident didn’t happen in the month of May, 2020 in Laurel, Mississippi.

      Quit being a dumb putz.

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    10. Leroy,

      You don't have to sign every stupid thing that you say with Leroy. It says Leroy right at the top. Got it, Leroy? Thanks, Leroy!

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    11. Cecelia,
      It happened in a major metropolis, not some podunk town with a population of 26 people.
      Your trying to tell me that there are no good guys with guns in Minneapolis?
      Also, nice strereotype of all gun owners as rednecks.

      I wasn't being cute. You know, as well as I, that we are supposed to tolerate the wholesale slaughter of rooms full of First graders, because good guy gun owners will fight the tyranny of the government.
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      "Quit being a dumb putz."
      Don't tell me what to do, you totalitarian piece of shit.

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    12. 1:39,
      I think Cecelia means only dumb putz's believe Right-wing talking points.

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    13. "only dumb putz's believe Right-wing talking points."

      If it wasn't for bad faith arguments, Conservatives wouldn't have any arguments at all.

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    14. “ If it wasn't for bad faith arguments, Conservatives wouldn't have any arguments at all“

      You just read Anonymouse 1:39am, chide me for stereotyping gun owners and misrepresenting his argument, and then proceed to make the exact ludicrous move of inventing gun-toting do-nothings at the scene that I said he was making.

      That’s the essence of bad faith, bro. .

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    15. "The only thing that stops a bad guy with a gun is a good guy with a gun" is yet another Right-wing bullshit statement used to shutdown debate. It's similar to how "All Lives Matter" means "Shut-up Black People".

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    16. Good thing no one here used that trope, Anonymouse 9:11am.

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  6. "They're being asked to pay the price for a wide range of failed elites."

    Exactly, dear Bob.

    Liberal elites, we should add. This would've been completely different if the mayor or chief of police - or anyone in sight, really, in the 50-mile radius - were not your zombie-cult members. But there are none.

    "We were more struck by the robotic way the professor offered a useless recitation, one an alert third grader could have provided for Lawrence."

    Why, she's a dembot, dear Bob. She has her talking points, and that's all there is to it.

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  7. "Chauvin took control of the situation and began choking Floyd to death."

    Where is the report that allows us to reach this conclusion? As of now there is no evidence that Floyd was choked to death.

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  8. "Those four-day wonders have been assigned the role of scapegoats in this horrible matter. They're being asked to pay the price for a wide range of failed elites."

    Seems to me that Chauvin is the scapegoat. He is clearly the crackpot, out of his mind person that Somerby is throwing under the bus.

    The professor gets dismissed because Somerby considers her "robotic" and thus she must have a cold cold heart. Her real crime is that she doesn't support the innocence of the rookies. Somerby meanwhile swallows the defense attorney's viewpoint entirely, while blaming so-called elites who weren't present and are unlikely to condone what happened under any circumstances.

    If police cannot restrain their own colleagues when they do wrong, how can they restrain criminals? This idea that they have insufficient resources to identify wrongdoing in one of their own is ridiculous. A co-pilot who realize his pilot is intoxicated is expected to turn him in, and does. A doctor who has become incompetent due to age or infirmity is similarly removed from practice by his or her peers. A person with the capacity to harm others can and will be removed by his own coworkers. Remember that Serpico was himself a cop, as are members of Internal Affairs who review cop performance. Those rookies have been trained to resist wrongdoing from fellow officers. That is why they have been charged. They failed in their duty.

    No cop meekly stands by as someone commits a crime, saying "you shouldn't do that" to the criminal. That is laughable. If those rookies truly felt that their training office was behaving wrongly, they should have intervened, not weakly objected.

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    1. From what I hear the knee on neck is a valid restraint technique in Minnesota. That’s inexplicable and I hope inaccurate.

      Somerby’s point is that if we’re throwing the book at cops on the job for three days, what about the higher ups? Any accountability there?

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    2. Yes. Minneapolis is disbanding the police force, and starting again from scratch.

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    3. When there is a police scandal, it is routine to replace the Police Chief. Buttigieg was not nominated because of police problems (in part), and the same is true for Klobuchar. Somerby's complaint that the elites at the top are not held accountable is ludicrous. It sounds like the kind of complaint that would appeal to an ignorant 12 year old but doesn't hold up when you look at what happens in reality. Ferguson not only changed its policing but has now elected a black female mayor. Things do change when there is public outrage, and things change at the top, not just at the level of the police rank and file who messed up.

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    4. Chauvin was the first person charged. He is the experienced training officer, not a rookie. But the rookies stood by and did nothing. It is obvious why they had to go, and they were fired immediately too.

      On what basis does Somerby complain? He thinks the rookies were not responsible, despite wearing the uniform, being trusted with each other in a police car to take calls, and they didn't do their job properly. A police officer is an elite among the general populace, because they have guns and authority over others. But Somerby thinks their time on the job is a mitigating factor, something that makes them less elite and less responsible, despite having the full authority of the weapon, uniform, and law.

      If we want to trace this back to the top, the buck goes all the way up the ladder to Trump and Barr. It is the Justice Department that ensures that the civil rights of black citizens are not violated by bigots and "bad apples." Do you really think Somerby is arguing that Barr needs to be held accountable for racist, power-abusing cops? What other elites could Somerby be talking about? Given Somerby aid and comfort for conservative talking points, he no doubt wants us to call for removal of the Democrats in office. That's what Rush would do, and Somerby has become our very own Rush, with you and David and Mao and Leroy to call amen to sermons.

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    5. Interesting to see the people who demand systemic change, defend the destruction of property in order to agitate for that goal, and who point their finger at everyone from conservatives in general to the president, launch into an argument that you shouldn’t question and hold accountable the state political sachems because they weren’t at the scene.

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    6. Meh. It is a mistake to look for a logical consistency in dembot drivel. They are bots, the lowest flunkies of the liberal cult. They parrot liberal talking points, that's all.

      "...to see the people..."

      Moreover, a whole bunch of them are, obviously, a script, not people. Scan for keywords, get some primitive drivel-reply from the dembot database, shuffle some words in it, paste, publish. Not the rocket science.

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    7. "Moreover, a whole bunch of them are, obviously, a script, not people. Scan for keywords, get some primitive drivel-reply from the dembot database, shuffle some words in it, paste, publish. "

      Tell us more about your paranoid delusions, dembot zombie.

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    8. No one has defended the destruction of property.

      Kevin Drum, who Somerby perhaps borrowed some of his facts from, has revised his account of rookie Lane's actions:

      "UPDATE: I’ve added a few words to make clear that “four days” on the force means four days after finishing his probationary period."

      He apparently entered the Police Academy in February 2019.

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    9. “No one has defended the destruction of property.”

      Actually, Anonymices have done just that.

      Every time I’ve bemoaned the destruction of property on this site, I’ve been chided about caring more about buildings than people’s lives. As if businesses and residential housing is superfluous to our existence.

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  9. If you're on the Grand Jury how do you convict a cop for using a procedure that's legal. Check out the case of Daniel Shaver--cops can and will kill you no matter what your race is for the sightest movement they feel might be threatening.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shooting_of_Daniel_Shaver

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OflGwyWcft8

    Watch a white American begging for his life was forced to crawl on all fours and do dog tricks until he messed up so the cop could shoot him.

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    1. Grand juries indict, not convict. And they probably will indict, because of the political pressure.

      As for the actual jury at the trial, they might hang, I suppose. Especially if the charges are too strong (again, because of the political pressure).

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    2. There was political pressure to convict the cops in most of the cases, yet they were all either never charged or acquitted. We are going to see massive burning of cities when it happens again, which it will, this time.

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    3. We also saw OJ Simpson acquitted. Depends on who's on the jury.

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    4. Yeah. Citizens, cops, juries, prosecutors, lawyers, and judges can all fuck up. We all better practice our crawling techniques, you never know when a cop will judge your form. Just think, in one week in Dallas the authorities not only failed to protect the POTUS they also failed to protect his alleged killer, the most important suspect in 20th cenury US history.

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    5. Meh. You don't know if they failed or played it exactly as planned.

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  10. Minnesota criminal homicide statutes have been amended over the years to include various situations not relevant here (e.g., when concomitant crimes like rape are involved or when the victim is a state official). Disregarding those, here are the choices:

    609.185 Murder in the First Degree Premeditation and intent to kill.

    609.19 Murder in the Second Degree intent but no premeditation to kill.

    609.195 Murder in the Third Degree no intent, but killing by committing an “eminently dangerous” act with a depraved mind.

    609.20 Manslaughter in the First Degree killing with intent in the heat of provoked passion or killing while committing a violent offense that a reasonable person could foresee would cause death or great bodily harm.

    609.205 Manslaughter in the Second Degree killing through culpable negligence that creates an unreasonable risk by consciously taking chances of causing death or great bodily harm.

    Chauvin has been indicted under Murder 3rd and Manslaughter 1st.

    The others have been indicted for aiding and abetting. Here’s the definition in Minnesota:

    609.05 Subdivision 1. Aiding, abetting; liability. A person is criminally liable for a crime committed by another if the person intentionally aids, advises, hires, counsels, or conspires with or otherwise procures the other to commit the crime.

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  11. “crackpot Chauvin”

    “senselessly killed”

    “Chauvin took control of the situation and began choking Floyd to death.”

    “O'Donnell's guest has a cold, cold heart”

    Somerby has an unusual way of showing how humans shouldn’t be quite so certain of themselves. He seems pretty sure of his own judgment.

    It’s also bizarre that he complains that the professor “simply regurgitated a few blindingly obvious facts” and didn’t speak to the “moral component.”

    Now, it’s an offense, apparently, when a professor simply recites facts and does not offer an opinion.

    Liberals just can’t win.

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  12. It was salient of the professor to point out Chauvin dictated the tone of the encounter. I was thinking the same thing. About him dictating the tone. Tone isn't just auditory.

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    1. Buddy, you're back! Where ya been? I've missed you. You left me stranded with all the Anonymous Ignoramuses who take themselves so damn seriously. They keep whining that I'm bullying them when I point out their faulty logic. So stick around.

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    2. The deadrat in green is Bob's mind-reader, and the one in black is trolling him, correct?

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    3. Aw, c'mon. It' easy. One of us is the smart one, and the other is the handsome one.

      And I know it looks like mentalism, but it's just a trick. I'll tell you, if you promise not to tell anybody else, OK?

      It's reading for comprehension.

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    4. As if there were anything to comprehend...

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    5. The tone of the event was dictated by Chauvin.

      Just like in the Lord of the Flies, the book that was meant by the author to be a straight retelling of a story about boys lost on an island. No metaphorical intent on the part of the author at all. I researched it through interlibrary loan.

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    6. deadrat 11:22 PM

      "I","I","I","me","I","I","me","me","me""I".

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    7. Ah, little Budddy, LOTF. Was it only a year ago that you were confusing tone and literalness? Good times. I couldn't tell, of course, if you were serious or just trolling. But it didn't matter: I'll always have your "Prayer of St Francis":

      It is by forgiving that we are forgiven,
      It is by dying that we are resurrected to eternal life.


      I cried, because you posted it in French. Were you sincere? I chose to think so.

      So glad to have you back. It's been so lonely here.

      Or were you just hiding among the Anonymi Ignorami?

      No matter. Don't leave again.

      But if you do, we'll always have Piggy's island.

      Pass me that conch shell, will you?

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    8. bonebroth.com

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  13. Chauvin also illegally voted in Florida in 2016 and 2018 while legally residing in Minnesota:

    https://www.startribune.com/florida-attorney-seeking-probe-of-derek-chauvin-s-voting-record/571055812/?fbclid=IwAR08Oew2KRWy_MeGF6SWYcWFtfCcXLuPN7tj5KdofPTHo9PHIQqzWAWcTnY&refresh=true

    He is a Republican.

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    1. How many Right-wing accusations are confessions?

      All of them, Katie.

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    2. But there is no voter fraud. It never occurs.

      It’s impossible.

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    3. Our Cecelia is at it again. No position need be abandoned unless it’s reasonable to adopt the most extreme version of the opposite.

      Thus her boy Trump says voter fraud is widespread, near universal. No reason not to believe him unless she can conclude that voter fraud “never occurs.”

      In fact, she’s got no reason to abandon Trump unless she could reasonably (by her lights) back the entire platform of the Democratic Party.

      But at least she owns it now. Baby steps.

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