BLUE BAYOUS: Red tribe viewers spoonfed Teslas!

WEDNESDAY, JANUARY 17, 2024

Our blue tribe instructed in "woke:" We've been surprised by one persistent talking-point as we've come to watch more and more of the nation's red tribe "cable news:"

We've been surprised by the persistence with which red tribe stars pound away at electric vehicles. 

It's a persistent theme on Fox, with all the employees reciting. This morning, they got to recite about an actual news event, reported here (without a paywall) by NPR's Bill Chappell:

It's so cold, Teslas are struggling to charge in Chicago

The Arctic air gripping much of the U.S. put Tesla drivers in Chicago into a pickle on Monday. Many of the cars sat in long lines at Supercharger stations, their owners saying the cold sapped the electric vehicles' normal ability to charge—and keep a charge.

In some cases, tow trucks were called to move the cars, in scenes that were relayed by local TV news. The Tesla owners' plight became an emblem of the misery extreme cold is inflicting on wide sections of the U.S. (more on that below).

"I've been here for over five hours at this point and I still have not gotten to charge my car," Tesla driver Brandon Welbourne told CBS News Chicago, as car horns blared nearby. "A charge that should take 45 minutes is taking two hours."

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On Monday, the local National Weather Service office recorded a rise to 1 degree Fahrenheit at Chicago-O'Hare Airport at 1 p.m. local time, adding, "This means that Chicago's climate site spent about 35-36 hours below 0°F."

How cold was it? In Chicago, it was extremely cold as judged by American norms. In his lengthy report, Chappell paints an embarrassing picture of the current state of electric vehicles in the face of such frigid conditions.

Chappell was perhaps a bit naive concerning one basic point. To Chappell, this gruesome situation "became an emblem of the misery extreme cold is inflicting on wide sections of the U.S." 

As Hector once said, "Strange man!" On Fox, the situation became an emblem of the appalling way our blue tribe elites are supposedly trying to force our nation's real Americans to surrender their internal combustion cars.

This theme is remarkably common on Fox. But so the discourse tends to go in a journalistic universe built on "segregation by viewpoint." 

Over on today's Morning Joe, viewers from our own blue tribe were being consigned to one of our tribe's "Blue Bayous" as two guests seemed to say that it's only been Republican women who have dared to challenge Donald J. Trump.

Everyone agreed with this formulation. Nothing will turn on what was said, but it was classic "woke." 

Let's be clear! By now, everyone within our landlocked blue tribe knows what we should say when that troubling term is employed:

We're supposed to say that the term has no actual meaning—that partisans of the hapless red tribe don't even know how to define the term "woke."

Sad! No one can define such terms as "liberal" or "conservative" in the precise way these thought leaders mean, but those terms are used all the time—and people have a working idea of what is being referenced.

At any rate, the year was finally underway as of this past Monday night. A small percentage of Iowa's Republican voters were willing to turn out, after nightfall, in very dangerous weather conditions, to play their role in the nomination of the next Republican candidate.

This part of our system makes almost no sense, but those voters should be praised for their desire to participate. That said, the election year will now unfold in a nation where two warring groups of voters are propagandized around the clock by a pair of thoroughly segregated journalistic elites.

We're prepared to admit it—we're flashing on President Lincoln again! In his second inaugural address, he described the state of play four years earlier as a brutal war drew near. 

It was Lincoln's second inauguration. Early in his short and astounding address, he thought back to the first:

On the occasion corresponding to this four years ago, all thoughts were anxiously directed to an impending civil war. All dreaded it—all sought to avert it. 

While the inaugural address was being delivered from this place devoted altogether to saving the Union without war, insurgent agents were in the city seeking to destroy it without war—seeking to dissolve the Union and divide effects by negotiation. 

Both parties deprecated war, but one of them would make war rather than let the nation survive, and the other would accept war rather than let it perish. And the war came.

And the war came, the president famously said. Six weeks later, at Ford's Theater, it claimed its most famous victim.

President Lincoln described a nation which had divided into two wholly separate camps. As his short, astounding address continued, he described that division:

One eighth of the whole population were colored slaves, not distributed generally over the union but localized in the southern part of it. These slaves constituted a peculiar and powerful interest. 

All knew that this interest was somehow the cause of the war. To strengthen perpetuate and extend this interest was the object for which the insurgents would rend the Union, even by war, while the government claimed no right to do more than to restrict the territorial enlargement of it. 

Neither party expected for the war the magnitude or the duration which it has already attained. Neither anticipated that the cause of the conflict might cease with or even before the conflict itself should cease. Each looked for an easier triumph and a result less fundamental and astounding.

Both read the same Bible and pray to the same God and each invokes His aid against the other. It may seem strange that any men should dare to ask a just God's assistance in wringing their bread from the sweat of other men's faces, but let us judge not that we be not judged. 

Each region prayed to the same God, the president said that day. The confederate viewpoint may seem strange, he explicitly said. But, for whatever reason, he instantly added this:

Let us judge not that we be not judged. 

Once again, Strange man! As we noted on Monday, Lincoln's address became more astounding as he continued from there.

Candidate Trump recently suggested that the war could have been avoided by skilled negotiation. We thought of the sheer stupidity which had arisen when the gentleman asked, way back when, if some sort of ingestion of liquid bleach might cure a case of Covid.

On this, the second morning of our new election year, the two warring "cable news" tribes stood in rank separation. Each corporate ownership group had assembled teams of analysts who would completely agree with each other while denouncing or disappearing the claims of the rival tribe. 

No overstatement, no matter how silly, would ever be questioned on the air. Viewers would hear their own tribe's perspective again and again, and they'd hear nothing else.

So it was on this second morning of this new election year. On Monday evening, a CNN reporter had spoken with one Iowa voter at one of the state's many caucuses.

The voter had braved life and limb to arrive at the scene, then had come in from the old. We were struck by some of the things he said.

We'll plan to start there tomorrow. Meanwhile, what does the term "Blue Bayou" mean? 

That strikes us as an important question, though the die has almost surely been cast for this year's war of the worlds.

Tomorrow: A CNN anchor was somewhat surprised by what that voter said

Yes, we'd call it woke: No, it doesn't really matter—but what was said on Morning Joe? 

At some point, we'll be able to show you. We'd call the statement unhelpful and silly, and we'd also call it woke. 


84 comments:

  1. Paul Campos has a gift link to Thomas Edsall, who explains the evangelical support for Trump:

    https://www.lawyersgunsmoneyblog.com/2024/01/dont-tell-them-youre-bigger-than-jesus

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  2. Sounds like ex-president Lincoln was preoccupied with inventing bullshit excuses for himself.

    Why not just say: we, in the North, wanted to bring the South back under our control. And that's what we did. End of story.

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    1. I research what I sayJanuary 17, 2024 at 10:22 AM

      Nice try. I guess it's hard to know what you don't know so I'll add some interesting details.

      Lincoln met with abolitionist Frederick Douglas in 1842 who accused him of being too *slow* to enter the movement.

      Other radicals like John Brown forced Lincoln's gradualism to run its course by killing people in favor of slavery.

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    2. Frederick Douglass**

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  3. From Wikipedia:

    Collective narcissism is related to ethnocentrism. While ethnocentrism is an assertion of the ingroup's supremacy, collective narcissism is a self-defensive tendency to invest unfulfilled self-entitlement into a belief in an ingroup's uniqueness and greatness. Thus, the ingroup is expected to become a vehicle of actualisation of frustrated self-entitlement.[2] In addition, ethnocentrism primarily focuses on self-centeredness at an ethnic or cultural level, while collective narcissism is extended to any type of ingroup.[1][3]

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    1. And? What's your point?

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    2. Do I have to spoon feed you?

      "the election year will now unfold in a nation where two warring groups of voters are propagandized around the clock by a pair of thoroughly segregated journalistic elites."

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    3. I mean, we get it, 10:27. What are we supposed to do about it? I’m still voting for Biden.

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    4. Will Biden even be on the ballot? Seems unlikely, at this point.

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    5. Question every tribe and tell the truth, @10:29.

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    6. 10:43: I do that on a regular basis. That will not stop journalistic elites from being segregated. More importantly, I cannot change the viewing habits of Fox News viewers. That’s on them.

      My voting decisions are my own, despite the so-called segregation of journalism. Perhaps you can come to accept that my examination of candidates and issues leads me to choose Biden.

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    7. To understand 9:57am, you must be cognitive.

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    8. All 9:57 did was copy and paste from Wikipedia.

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    9. I've knocked on doors for campaign finance reform, advocated for jobs programs, violence reduction programs, wrote letters about Trump, funded Palestine media, and studied the history of capitalism, ideology and power.

      I've averaged changing the hearts of two Rightists a year just in person using the truth over name calling. I don't have a high school diploma and work in grocery stores and with elderly people.

      You are not powerless, mh. If I can pull my weight you can do it as well.

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    10. Thanks for the advice, 11:45. Considering that you know nothing about me, I will give it due consideration.

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    11. Telling other lefties they aren't lefty enough is not a good use of lefty time, in my opinion. Somerby might accuse Amy of "virtue signaling" but I think she is just showing how anyone can be great, according to Somerby's instructions on MLK day.

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    12. "I've averaged changing the hearts of two Rightists a year just in person using the truth over name calling."

      This can't be true. I've been told, authoritatively by experts in this comment section, that persuasion doesn't work. (On the other hand, congratulations on your success!)

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    13. I heard that a conservative is a liberal who has been mugged. In the current (allegedly) high-crime environment, it probably produces much faster results than "using the truth" for 2 heads/year.

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    14. There goes the right chasing violence again.

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    15. They are deplorable. I am adorable. I smell my fingers. I play bridge. Somerby is an ass.

      I am Corby.

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    16. Psychotherapists know that change requires emotion. It has nothing to do with being conservative. A mugging is scary so people retreat to what makes them feel safe. It is why the right uses Willy Horton style ads. A person with a trans kid changes to the left because of emotions they feel about their kid. Same mechanism.

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    17. Have your political beliefs materially improved your life, or are you following a script of red/blue fighting?

      Are there people from your community who question marketing and question common propaganda?

      People you dislike are smarter than you think. Much smarter. Everyone is hiding behind anger since they're afraid of being vulnerable. Be genuinely a decent person and there's nothing to attack you for. Forget the pride of red vs blue and you'll be heard.

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    18. I deplore the deplorables. They are not nice. They break rules and norms. They had childhood traumas. They are funded by Russia via Iran and Qatar.

      I am Corby.

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    19. All of this: stop the name calling! Be a decent person and they won’t attack you! (I can barely write that with a straight face). And the kicker: forget red vs blue! As, meanwhile, Trump marches to victory with a view like that. I will still be voting for Biden and the Democrats, because I feel there is a fundamental difference between the two parties. The other point I am making is that it isn’t just up to me or liberals to be decent, etc. Everyone has to choose that before things can change. As many people as the above commenter claims he “converted”, I’m not sure why common decency has to be coaxed out of right wingers.

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    20. mh what's the last thing someone calling you names persuaded you of?

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    21. If you believe what someone tells you because they are nice, you are being conned.

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    22. What are you talking about, 6:50? Who is name calling? I don’t “call people names.” And if you or anyone else thinks that being a decent person protects you from being attacked, then I have a bridge to sell you.

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  4. “And the war came.”

    This is a curious way to put it. It sounds as though it was a natural phenomenon, like an earthquake, with no human agency involved.

    Of course, the south chose to secede, and Lincoln judged them to be wrong, so he declared war and pursued their unconditional surrender. His overriding concern was preserving the Union, because he believed that, had the south successfully seceded, it would represent a failure of democracy.

    His magnanimous address here is looking ahead to reunification, which would have been more problematical if Lincoln had chosen vindictiveness. There would have been no need for such an address if the south had not been crushed by the Union.

    It isn’t clear how Lincoln planned to accomplish reunification, but after his death, the south wasn’t overjoyed to have the new constitutional amendments forced on them, be subjected to military occupation, and watch as black people voted and were elected to state houses, giving rise to the klan and Jim Crow.

    I realize that Somerby just wants to extract Lincoln’s “both sides” rhetoric, but it’s irritating when you observe that chose a damn side.

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    1. Should have been he chose a damn side.

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    2. He never declared war.

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    3. ‘On April 15, 1861, just three days after the attack on Fort Sumter, President Abraham Lincoln issued a proclamation calling forth the state militias, to the sum of 75,000 troops, in order to suppress the rebellion. He appealed “to all loyal citizens to favor, facilitate, and aid this effort to maintain the honor, the integrity, and the existence of our National Union.”’

      That’s essentially a declaration of war.

      The point was that Lincoln made the decision to fight the confederacy, it didn’t just “happen.”

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    4. That is not a declaration of war. Only Congress can declare war. Lincoln never requested such a declaration.

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    5. You keep missing the point.

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    6. You keep misstating the facts.

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    7. Troops were massed, on both sides, and fought each other. Was that a natural phenomenon, or the result of human choices?

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    8. And the war came. Undeclared, it came.

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    9. I think the USA had the obvious choice: to remove its troops from the CSA's territory.

      The CSA, on the other hand, didn't have much choice. Independent country can't allow foreign troops to be stationed on its territory without invitation. The Gitmo situation notwithstanding.

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    10. The CSA had the same choice as Lincoln did. Lincoln did not order the Fort to fire upon the 6000 Confederate soldiers encircling the fort. Lincoln sent a letter stating that he was sending provisions only, to prevent starvation of the garrison at Ft. Sumter. The CSA could have stood by and let that happen, but it instead fired upon the Fort starting the war.

      The stationing of troops at Fort Sumter preceded the secession, so the idea of "invitation" makes no sense. The Confederacy wanted war so it started one.

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    11. The CSA had a clear choice, which it took, four years later: give up.

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    12. Nonsense; "give up" is not a choice. I suppose they could, like Cuba does now, live with an uninvited foreign military base on their territory. But the North would probably find some other excuse. Something like the Gulf of Tonkin incident.

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    13. @1:46 "give up" could be rephrased as negotiate a compromise (Trump's solution) or standby doing nothing or reenter the Union after eliminating slavery on its own, etc. When options are phrased in terms of giving up (an obvious negative), it closes a path that might have been viable had not the South considered itself a likely victor (unrealistically, according to historians). The South was hoping for foreign support that it didn't get, but also foolishly confident it would win. That may be a trait that persists among Trump supporters (and goofs like Somerby).

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    14. You might want to try to evict Trump and his supporters from your head, 2:01 PM. There is a hope that it would make your writings slightly more intelligible.

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    15. "had not the South considered itself a likely victor"

      Surely the CSA didn't need that war? Or is this controversial?

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    16. "The attitudes of Confederate civilians fluctuated in opposition to those of Unionists in the state. For Confederates, Union military advances spurred anger and soul-searching while each Confederate victory deepened their faith in ultimate victory and spurred enthusiasm for sustaining the war."

      Encyclopediavirginia.org

      "Why were Confederate soldiers so motivated to fight?
      In addition to fighting for hearth and home, “most Southern volunteers believed they were fighting for liberty as well as slavery” (often citing both in the same breath), and many actively feared the effects of “Black Republicanism” loosed on their Herrenvolk democracy (20-22). [Texas Christian University]"

      The Confederacy considered the war necessary to preserve slavery (it's way of life). The South was also oriented toward war, with 7 of the 8 military colleges located in the South, and a strong sense of duty, loyalty and honor. The Confederacy instituted the first military draft in American history to conscript soldiers against their will.

      Given that the Civil War was defensive on the South's part and consisted largely of resisting Union advances, it is tempting to think that the South didn't want the war, but they started it, first by seceding and next by firing on Fort Sumter to start the fighting.

      It is probably realistic to believe that the North would not have tolerated any further spread of slavery into new territories and would have continued attempts to outlaw slavery in the US, especially with the slave trade having ended the transport of new slaves to America. The tide of political resistance to slavery was against the South and those opposing slavery were becoming more militant. It seems appropriate for Southerners to feel that their way of life (based on slave ownership and plantations) was under threat, economically as well as politically.

      What is the South fighting for today in its red states?

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    17. Its way of life.

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    18. What? Lower levels of education? Poorer health? Lack of community services? Toxic devotion to culture war issues?

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  5. We know where the term "woke" came from. It was revived during the BLM movement to refer to black people aware of their own history:

    ABC News says: "One of its earliest uses was in a historical recording of the protest song "Scottsboro Boys" by Lead Belly. In that recording, it was used as a term about staying aware of the potential for racist violence as a Black person in America."

    Thereafter, the right redefined and repurposed the word to combat the goals of the left and malign those with progressive values. For example, DeSantis defined the term as:

    "Woke is defined by the DeSantis administration as "the belief there are systemic injustices in American society and the need to address them," according to DeSantis' general counsel, as reported by The Washington Post."

    When the right began using the word woke as an insult, people like Somerby, Bill Maher, and others who thought the left was going too far, eagerly jumped on the bandwagon and began complaining about the left's excesses. Based on Somerby's essay today, he hasn't stopped and we will get yet another lecture about how we need to abandon civil rights if those on the right are ever going to "like us."

    Thank God Abraham Lincoln never worried much about being liked by the Confederates.

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  6. “This part of our system makes almost no sense”

    Why?

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  7. “Commie” “pinko” “politically correct” “cancel culture” “woke” …we need easy handles and the dumber we are we need the name calling that much more. “Woke” invented as a badge of honor but tiresomely expanded as an insult has never been that hard to grasp. As in “awoken” I have come to realize. Etc. Younger people can be forgiven for not knowing all their breakthroughs are not something new under the sun.
    Not the reactions to them, chowder head Bill Maher worshipfully bowing before Musk as they speak of “the woke mind virus.”
    Whatever. Hearing someone out, finding common ground where possible, not overstuffing valid viewpoints with BS, these are all good things. But it’s much more likely the toxic both siderism of those like Bob has enabled the twisted infantilism of the current shitshow of the American Right rather than acting as something positive in any way.

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    1. Setting an example for both sides is different than taking both sides

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    2. Opposing crass bull roar and speaking the truth are also important when it is necessary to do so. Lincoln is a good example. He stopped listening to the confederates; he began attacking them. That is at least as important a lesson to draw from Lincoln as his “we are all to blame” idea that Somerby swoons over.

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    3. You're so bloodthirsty, mh.

      It's almost feels that you're advocating a civil war. Which, I'm not sure, but it might be illegal, actually.

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    4. I am merely reiterating the fact that Lincoln took sides, that he didn’t stand by and try to be considerate to the confederates. The idea is that sometimes you have to oppose the other side, not continue to entertain its rhetoric or its actions at a certain point. It has nothing to do with violence.

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    5. He could take the side of letting the South go its merry way. No, "taking sides" is not what you're talking about.

      What you want is a confrontation. Which may very well turn violent.

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    6. I am agreeing with the original commenter about toxic bothsiderism. At some point, you have to call out the bs. I don’t advocate violence, but if you’re suggesting that right wingers will respond to criticism with violence, then that says a lot about your view of them.

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    7. Sure, sure. To criticism.

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    8. @12:19 Don't forget that while Lincoln was standing by and trying to negotiate a resumption of the union, the Confederates fired actual cannons at Ft. Sumter, a Union military base.

      What issue does the right hold as dear as slavery was to the South in the 1860s? I am asking you, @12:34, since you seem to have that militia mentality that buys into Trump's assertion that right wing freedoms are at stake.

      This illustrates the danger of mobilizing votes by enhancing the victimhood of right wingers, especially white undereducated males with guns. The left has never made any statements or taken any actions that would encourage violence on the right and yet Trump and his ilk whip their followers into a frenzy of paranoia, telling them that the FBI and the courts will come for them too, if Trump loses a defamation suit while calling E.Jean Carroll more names.

      Your passive aggressive snide little comments about Democrats coming for you with more than just criticism, while refusing to express any actual opinion, is either trolling or mental dysfunction, but it is not how people participate in discussions, even here where Somerby tolerates bullying by trolls and "make money from home" cons.

      Put up or shut up but don't keep implying that the left, like Lincoln, is out for Republican scalps. That isn't the situation, no matter what "God gave us Trump" says from his white supremacist pulpit.

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    9. "What issue does the right hold as dear as slavery was to the South in the 1860s?"

      Guns

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    10. Bill Maher and Elon Musk already died along time ago. What we see in front of us on TV are walking skeletons who are leeching off attention to remember what it feels like to be a living soul.

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  8. “two guests seemed to say that it's only been Republican women who have dared to challenge Donald J. Trump.”

    Did they say it, or did they seem to say it? Is it possibly true?

    Well, It felt “woke”, which is facially bad, I guess.

    Meanwhile, Fox pounds on electric vehicles.

    Is this supposed to show how segregated our journalistic elites are?

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    1. But but but Musk is a darling of the right and yet he gave us EVs! I'm so confused...

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    2. Musk is not a real person. He's a deep fake.

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  9. Topic: Lincoln, if he were alive today, would have opposed Trump and Trumpism.

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  10. I can’t get past the fact that it is Trump who calls his enemies “vermin” and who exhibits the worst impulses of human nature that Lincoln was trying to counter in that address.

    Democrats, on the other hand, constantly try to be inclusive. Biden made a return to bipartisanship an important campaign theme in 2020. Pelosi repeatedly says that the US needs a strong Republican Party. This while many republicans publicly desire the eradication of liberals.

    Many recent democratic winners around the country stress the fact that they represent all the voters. There is a constant drumbeat from strategists about the need for outreach to the “white working class.”

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    1. "who calls his enemies “vermin”"

      What about this one:

      https://www.washingtonpost.com/local/the-vermin-in-the-white-house/2019/07/29/81daff28-b161-11e9-8f6c-7828e68cb15f_story.html

      Dated July 29, 2019.

      Are you outraged about it too, or was it well-deserved? Just curious.

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    2. I was referencing politicians and political parties, comparing Lincoln with Trump and Republican politicians with Biden and Pelosi. I’m sure I can find reams of similar things by right wing journalists directed at liberals. But that wasn’t my point.

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    3. Trump may have said blah blah blah but Biden has approved what could be an intractable war with a fanatical religious sect which will end up costing us zillions and probably end up putting Trump back in office.

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    4. Yes, words are unimportant. 🙄 “blah blah blah”

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  11. "Meanwhile, what does the term "Blue Bayou" mean? "

    Somerby has the choice to use the term Blue Bayou as others use it, or to invent his own new meaning for that phrase. When the right "borrows" phrases used by the left with preexisting meanings and then attaches its own, very different meanings to such phrases, that is an act of aggression, a way of invading and destroying discourse on the left, it distorts the entire discussion between people of opposing camps because it requires people trying to communicate with each other to instead choose one or an entirely different meaning. The right's use of language to fight with its opponents includes deliberately revising meanings to sow confusion and to oppose real world acts with language-only revisionism.

    Somerby acts as if the current babel that requires people to have different cable news shows depending on their political leanings were created by the left, but when you choose to misuse words with previous common meanings for your own purposes, it is the right wing who has been corrupting our ability to communicate clearly.

    Today, Somerby pretends the left has never known what "woke" means, despite the history of its use by the black community and by BLM. Those meanings were clear but DeSantis and the right decided to ignore the left's meanings and create its own, based on the idea that wokeness is progressive extremism, with no relation to accurate civil rights history.

    Somerby is blaming the wrong people in his essay today. He needs to join the left in continuing to use woke with its original and proper meaning, or chide the right for warping our discourse, because it is not the left that has chosen to redefine words. The right has been doing that for a long time now.

    Anyone may have the right to use words however they want, but they do that at the cost of communication. WE on the left are not the ones who have undermined discourse. Somerby needs to stop blaming us for something we didn't do, and more than that, stop joining with the right to destroy the meanings of our mainstream society until MAGAs can only talk coherently to each other while they continue to weaponize language against the rest of us.

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    1. The way Somerby borrows other people's poems and song lyrics, attaching unintended and foreign meanings while ignoring what the authors meant (or what it currently means to most people) is an example of how the right corrupts the accomplishments, strengths, and creative works of its opponents to use for its own purposes. As when Trump uses a well-known and revered song for his own campaign without obtaining permission from the owners and creators of such works.

      It is theft when Trump does it, but it is also theft when the right takes a word like "woke" and redefines it to mean the opposite of its historical and widely understood meanings. Theft. But just as Trump is a criminal with no respect for other people and takes what he wants, as he did from E.Jean Carroll, right wingers seem to think that their victimhood entitles them to take what they want, do what they want, regardless of the consequences to others.

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    2. There is an upper class in every industrialized country, but the difference in the US is, we have the largest marketing army in the world that screeches in high pitched fear every other month that nothing can change, we're already the best, let's just watch the next war happen on TV thankyouverymuch.

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  12. Maybe we can head off Somerby from ruining Blue Bayou by explaining where the song really came from:

    https://americansongwriter.com/behind-the-song-linda-ronstadt-blue-bayou/

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  13. “…this year’s war of the worlds”

    That is a phrase taken from the title of a movie about an invasion of Earth by aliens. Our current election has nothing to do with that film, and no, thinking people do not believe in reptilians amongst us, nor do we humor those who do. It is time to defend truth.

    “Woke” has nothing to do with women confronting Trump, nor with TV show guests or hosts agreeing with each other. Somerby’s misuse of that word in order to attack media figures does not help anyone communicate better (his supposed goal). Somerby’s own ambivalence toward women may have pushed a button when someone tried to suggest women might be important in this election. That’s perhaps too much for Somerby to swallow. But why would a supposed liberal adopt the right wing redefinition of the word “woke” to beat up supposedly blue media? You tell me.

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    1. It was also a book by H.G. Wells.

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  14. Bob wrote: "We thought of the sheer stupidity which had arisen when the gentleman asked, way back when, if some sort of ingestion of liquid bleach might cure a case of Covid."-

    I wouldn't call it "stupidity", but gullibility was evidenced by people like Bob who believe this fable. Bob, of all people, knows that media is sometimes unreliable. Even if he didn't take the trouble to check the story, common sense should have warned him that it was unlikely that Trump said something quite that silly.

    Even the liberal Politifact debunked the story. See
    No, Trump didn’t tell Americans infected with the coronavirus to drink bleach
    https://www.politifact.com/factchecks/2020/jul/11/joe-biden/no-trump-didnt-tell-americans-infected-coronavirus/

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    1. No, but people who did it were harmed.

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    2. This was his quote: "I see the disinfectant that knocks it out in a minute, one minute. And is there a way we can do something like that, by injection inside or almost a cleaning?" He never used the word bleach.

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    3. “ common sense should have warned him that it was unlikely that Trump said something quite that silly.”

      Ah Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha.
      Ah ha. Ah ha. Ha. Ha ha HA HA HA HA HA…whew. Good one David.

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    4. @8:38 if some people tried injecting bleach, this is an example of how Trump’s enemies cause the harm they claim to be concerned about. False representations can lead to real tragedies.

      A more common tragedy is the lie that white racism is rampant or that most Republicans are racists. This myth discourages many black youths from doing what it takes to get a good career.

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    5. David, please stop inflicting your bigotry on people here.

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    6. @11:23 I don’t think you’re a racist.But I am afraid you’re being influenced by Democratic racists whose real goal is that blacks not succeed, so that blacks will be dependent on government handouts

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    7. Above comment from David in Cal

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    8. 100% of the people who do their own research support Reparations for Slavery.

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