STARTING TOMORROW: Ghost Dances?

MONDAY, JANUARY 22, 2024

Intimations of defeat? We're sorry to say it, but we thought we might be watching a type of tribal "ghost dance" on our TV screen last Thursday night.

As many readers will know, that historical term dates to the subjugation of Native American peoples in the American West. This tragic process was nearing its end in 1890 when the ghost dance movement took form and grew among the Lakota people.

We're sorry to say that we thought we might be watching something resembling a modern-day, blue tribe ghost dance on the evening to which we refer.

We'd recently rewatched the Ken Burns documentary, The American Buffalo. In a six-minute excerpt, the film recalls the deeply tragic history of the historical ghost dance. You can watch that excerpt by clicking here, then clicking on "Sitting Bull and the Wounded Knee Massacre."

We'd rewatched that part of the Ken Burns film. Now we were watching Alex Wagner and Melissa Murray discussing the apparently serious legal problem apparently afflicting Fani Willis, the Fulton County District Attorney who is pursuing criminal charges against former president Donald J. Trump and a large number of others.

Were Wagner and Murray engaged in a type of ghost dance? To provide a bit of background, the conversation proceeded as Wagner's producers played these surprisingly frank chyrons on our TV screen:

WILLIS ACCUSED OF HAVING IMPROPER RELATIONSHIP WITH PROSECUTOR

TRUMP CO-DEFENDANT SEEKS TO HAVE FULTON CO. DA REMOVED FROM ELECTION INTERFERENCE CASE

If you're unfamiliar with this matter, that may be because we blue tribe members have largely been sheltered from this storm by our blue tribe outlets. For an AP News overview, just click this (no paywall). Yesterday morning, this matter reached the front page of the New York Times' print editions, as you can see by clicking here.

Up to a point, we admired the frankness of Wagner and Murray this past Thursday night. You can watch the whole interview. To get started, just click here.

Question! Has Fani Willis done something wrong in her pursuit of this sprawling case? Early in the interview, Professor Murray (NYU Law) had made it sound like Willis might be facing a very serious legal situation. 

Here's part of what was said:

WAGNER (1/18/24): I do wonder, given the fact that she may be romantically involved with the prosecutor in her case that the state is paying, is that—I mean, if you are a judge, Scott McAfee here, is this, is this open and shut in her favor? Or is there a potential avenue for a problem?

MURRAY: So, I mean, the optics are terrible if, in fact, there is a romantic relationship and he is doing some exorbitant amount of hours and profiting in some way from this. Like, this should be disclosed if they are in fact in a romantic relationship. And I think most people would say, to err on the side of caution, it would be better not to work with someone with whom whom you're in a romantic relationship on a matter as high profile as this one. 

But again, it doesn't undermine the charges that were brought against Donald Trump and his codefendants. It's just messy. Maybe it's an ethical problem with regard to how the prosecutor's office is working, but it doesn't necessarily mean that there are ethical problems with regard to the charges that they have brought...

The optics are bad. It's going to be really tough sledding for Fani Willis going forward because of this, but not because of the strength of the charges she brought against him. 

To be clear, this wasn't a Fox News program. This was a leading legal analyst speaking with Wagner on Wagner's nightly MSNBC program. 

To our ear, that legal analyst—she's very capable—was making some remarkable statements about the state of this case.

To be clear, Professor Murray kept drawing a basic distinction. Nothing involved in this new dispute bears on the quality of the charges Fani Willis has brought against Donald Trump and the other defendants. 

More specifically, the existence of this new dispute doesn't "necessarily" mean that there's a problem with those charges. It doesn't necessarily mean that—and having said that, good God!

Murray also said that there may well be "an ethical problem" with the way Willis has conducted herself in this matter. She said it's going to be "really tough sledding" for Willis because of this matter's emergence.

Wagner and Murray both asserted that they don't know the truth of the claims being made about Willis and Nathan Wade, one of her three externally hired, outside assistant prosecutors. But Wagner also noted that Willis has not denied these charges, and the general tenor of the conversation seemed to suggest an assumption that the basic factual charges here are accurate.

Beyond that, dear God! As the conversation continued, Wagner even speculated about the possibility that Willis will be "ordered to step down from this case." 

Murray acknowledged that possibility. She even said it might be hard to get some other D.A. to proceed with the prosecutions against these defendants—that the Fulton County case against Trump and the others might simply cease to exist.

We were surprised, but also impressed, by Professor Murray's frankness. We hadn't heard a ghost dance yet—but then, we heard Murray say this about the "tactic" being employed against Willis by the defense attorney who first raised these points of concern:

MURRAY: It's a really sort of "go big or go home" tactic. You know, smear this woman, blow up her life, but also blow up this prosecution and maybe blow it up to the point where it doesn't come back.

We'd call that a very strange statement—and the possible start of a ghost dance.

Readers, please! As far as we know, defense attorneys will always try to "blow up" a prosecution to the point "where it doesn't come back." As far as we know, that's a defense attorney's job.

For that reason, we were amazed, and disappointed, to see Murray move on in this way from her earlier statement. 

In that earlier statement. Murray had said that Willis might be engaged in a highly consequential "ethical problem." Now, she was describing the revelation of this matter as a mere "tactic"—much more remarkably, as a "smear!"—as a tactic and a smear designed to "blow up her life."

From there, Wagner went on to report suggestions made by Willis that this whole thing is being done because some people don't respect black women. From that point, the conversation had the sound of a very familiar old card—and it almost sounded like we were listening to a ghost dance. 

At this point, there seems to be little real doubt that that Willis and Wade have been involved in a romantic relationship. (For the record, we think it's good when people find romance with one another.)

We bring no legal expertise to assessments of this matter, but Professor Murray does—and she had clearly said that there may well be an ethical problem with what Willis has done, with possible serious consequences for the state of this high-profile case.

We don't know what's going to happen. With respect to Thursday evening's conversation, our general view runs like this:

In recent weeks, the shortcomings of our blue tribe's elites have been crashing down around us in ways which have sometimes been hard to ignore, even for tribals like us. In our view, this sort of thing has actually been a problem for decades, dating back to the start of this site in 1998, when our "liberal" mainstream press corps was already engaged in a long-running war against Clinton, Clinton and Gore.

In recent weeks and months, the shortcomings of those blue elites have become more and more visible. As last Thursday's conversation proceeded, it seemed to us that Wagner and Murray had begun to placate us blue tribe viewers by playing a familiar old card.

This coming year will almost surely turn out to be a major "Year That Was." We'll explain that bit of language in the reports ahead.

That said, we thought we might be hearing the sound of a ghost dance as Murray and Wagner switched gears midway through their discussion. As they did, a report they seemed to think was accurate was now being framed as a "smear."

Was that the start of a ghost dance—a form of tribal denial? Correctly or otherwise, we think we see an array of such dances being performed across the sweep our blue tribe's dial as it becomes more and more clear that Candidate Donald J. Trump could actually win this year.

We think we see such dances being performed all across our embattled blue tribe. As with the deeply tragic story of the Lakota people in the 1890s, it sounds to us that our own thought leaders are emitting the last dying gasps of a people which has come to see that it has been subjugated, at least for the present time.

We think we might hear a ghost dance forming when we pretend—based on a handful of flimsy examples—that it's really Candidate Trump who is losing his cognitive focus. We think we might hear a ghost dance forming when we keep pretending that we have a blue tribe candidate who will be able to go out and make his own forceful case this year.

We don't know what's going to happen this year. That said, this year will almost surely go down as a major "Year That Was." 

Meanwhile, at this site, we'll be bringing in the gloom this week. With apologies, we're going to say the things we say because we think they're accurate.

The Lakota "ghost dance" was, and is, a tragic part of our national history. Did we hear the hint of a ghost dance last week? Are such dances being performed here within our blue tribe?

Tomorrow: Sound advice, too late?


60 comments:

  1. I don’t dance. I don’t have ethical problems. Biden is more cognitive than Trump. I am Corby.

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  2. "More specifically, the existence of this new dispute doesn't "necessarily" mean that there's a problem with those charges."

    The original statement that Somerby was immediately repeating (why?) said: "...but it doesn't necessarily mean that there are ethical problems with regard to the charges that they have brought..."

    Note that Somerby omits the word "ethical" from Murray's statement, broadening it to problems in general, which could include factual and legal problems that both Murray and Wagner took care to exclude.

    And Somerby does not mention the earlier effort to accuse Willis of having a romantic relationship with a gang leader, a charge that was found to be empty, misleading and an attempted smear of Willis.

    The flimsy accusations of relationship rest on the special prosecutor having bought two plane tickets, one for himself and another for Willis. That's all. But it seems pretty obvious why the right is trying to discredit Willis, in that hope that a personal attack on her may lead to compromising the case itself, which remains strong.

    What bothers me is that Somerby gives this obvious attack on Willis credence by engaging what he has previously derided as underwear sniffing. The motivation for this attack is to harm the case against Trump. Furthering this attack, as Somerby does by repeating it, is intended to defend Trump and the others who tried to undermine the election results in GA.

    The case against Trump stands separate from the personal life of Willis or her prosecutor and it will stand or fall based on the facts, which are plentiful and damning for Trump and his accomplices. Somerby should be ashamed not to recognize this politically motivated attack on Willis, much less furthering it, as he does today in the guise of criticizing Wagner and Murray.

    Somerby says it is the job of the defense to engage in these sorts of personal attacks on the state. That is ridiculous. Perhaps next he will say that these death threats and other harrassment of judges, clerks, public officials are also part of the defense's job, normal. That is untrue too. Somerby's attack on Murray and Wagner today is part of that same defense of Trump and the right wing, for acts against democracy. And none of this is normal or business as usual.

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    1. How does discussing the accusations against Willis directly translate to a defense of an attack on democracy?????

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    2. Trump has been investigating and claiming personal misbehavior on the part of every judge and prosecutor involved in his various cases. He did this in Engoron's court by attacking his clerk. He did it against Willis earlier by saying she was "romantically involved" with a gang member she had prosecuted (a claim found to be empty). This is how Trump operates, via death threats, personal threats and opposition research that leads to accusations against the personal lives of people who are just doing their jobs.

      Somerby thinks it is OK for Trump to do this (through a co-defendent), and he thinks this set of charges is likely to be true. That is a defense of both Trump's personal attacks on employees in the justice system and the substance of a complaint that Somerby himself admits has no bearing on the facts of the case. Because the accusations have no bearing and are just a Trump ploy to derail the prosecution, taking them seriously by discussing them is a defense of the attack itself.

      Somerby says some nice things about Murray and Wagner, but he also features lengthy excerpts about the attack itself, which supports Trump and hurts Willis, Wade, and other staff attempting to carry forward the prosecution of Trump and his cronies for THEIR attack on democracy.

      Imagine you were being audited by the IRS. If you went out and collected dirt on the agent you are talking with, threatened his marriage or his job or his reputation in the community, in order to get a favorable ruling on your own IRS debt, that would not only be a crime, but it would be an attack on our tax system through threats on the lives of its employees. That is what Trump has been doing, except he has targeted staff, juries, judges, prosecutors, members of the press, everyone involved in his court cases, not IRS employees (although he has promised to go after them too after he wins reelection).

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    3. Yes, this is trump's MO. He learned it from Roy Cohn, always attack. Recall he went after Strzok and then Andrew McCabe's wife. Apparently it is a crime to be a democrat if you are investigating trump.

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  3. The phrase "might have ethical problems" is being used because we don't even know whether Willis is having any kind of "romantic" relationship with anyone, much less her prosecutor. Shouldn't that be established before trying to pillory her? And yes, of course she is being attacked for being female and for being black. Michael Roman is throwing everything he can at her in order to have the entire case against everyone dismissed.

    A hearing has been scheduled but the filing by Roman that requested the hearing contains no evidence whatsoever.

    Somerby has always been quick to point out when there are accusations unsupported by evidence, except today, when he instead blames the left for engaging in a "ghost dance" (whatever he means by that allusion, ripped out of context and irrelevant to anything happening in GA). Of course Somerby is against Willis, willing to believe whatever is said about her, and urging us not to hold out hope that this is an empty smear. It is what he does these days, defending Trump, repeating right wing propaganda, and urging lefties to believe ugly attacks on our judicial system in support of the miscreants who tried to corrupt GA in order to keep Trump in office. This is so bogus.

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  4. There's an obvious move for the blue tribe, if they remember the Uncle Tom in the Republican party with his 38 undisclosed vacations.

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    1. Bob's honesty here is paying off, we're seeing the system failing to hold Trump accountable up close, specifically because the blue and the red are held to the same standard.

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    2. You don't make any sense.

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    3. https://www.theguardian.com/law/2023/aug/10/clarence-thomas-gift-vacation-supreme-court

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    4. Sorry, talking to 10:49 not 10:47, but the link is helpful.

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  5. More silliness. Somerby says:

    "This coming year will almost surely turn out to be a major "Year That Was." We'll explain that bit of language in the reports ahead."

    The TV news show titled That was the Week that Was, had that name because it reviewed the past week's political events. Somerby refers to the coming year using the past tense. Not only is it confusing, but there is no basis for suggesting that anything happening this year echoes the past, especially not Fani Willis and the prosecution of Trump and his supporters for corrupting voting results and violating their oaths of office.

    Somerby blames the left for hoping it can successfully prosecute Trump and his accomplices for their crimes against the people. That isn't the lingering hope of native Americans in a lost war against invaders. It is offensive that Somerby borrows that term to apply to our government's attempts to prosecute wrongdoing via the courts, because it diminishes the tragedy of the Lakota and appropriates their struggle, applying it to criminals who deserve their day in court. But implying that we (the people) will lose those cases when there is abundant evidence, including confessions and witness statements is ridiculous. It seems more likely that Trump should be applying that ghost dance analogy to the right wingers who are grasping at straws like these accusations against Willis, because they have no real factual defense and they see that they are going down for this plot against our nation's election system.

    If anyone doubts which side Somerby is on, go back and re-read today's essay. This, from a guy who gives the benefit of the doubt to Roy Moore but will not do the same for Fani Willis when these charges are so obviously politically motivated and unsupported by evidence.

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    1. Nowhere do you invoke any priorities of the people beyond "let the system take care of itself." With leftists like these who needs two business parties?

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  6. "The document offers no concrete proof of the romantic ties between Willis and Wade, but says “sources close to both the special prosecutor and the district attorney have confirmed they had an ongoing, personal relationship.”

    Roman’s lawyer, Ashleigh Merchant, said she reviewed the case file in Wade’s ongoing divorce proceedings at the Superior Court Clerk’s Office and made copies of certain documents. But the case file was later improperly sealed because no court hearing was held as required by law, the motion said."

    Michael Roman is one of the defendants in the case. To complicate matters, Wade (the private prosecutor hired by the DA's office to help prosecute the case) has been involved in a divorce. There are accusations that his estranged wife has been trying to intervene in this case in order to help Trump. Somerby, of course, mentions none of this because it is exculpatory to Willis and the DA's office -- corroborating the idea that this is a smear campaign cooked up by Republicans to undermine the DA's case.

    The hearing is set for February. Somerby isn't interested in waiting to hear facts. He says:

    "At this point, there seems to be little real doubt that that Willis and Wade have been involved in a romantic relationship. (For the record, we think it's good when people find romance with one another.)"

    This is good ole "anything is possible" Somerby eliminating the possibility that there is nothing to these accusations and that they are made on the basis of gossip and smears, by guilty conservatives grasping at straws to evade prosecution for real crimes.


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  7. If you were to admit, hypothetically, that every Republican accusation against Willis and Wade is true, it would have nothing to do with the content of the case being brought. How on earth would vacations compromise any fact of the case? If Wade were an attorney representing one of the defendants, or a judge who is supposed to be impartial, not someone on Willis's team whose job is to prosecute along with Willis and her team, it might make sense to make him or Willis or both step down. But it is hard to see how any vacation Wade paid for with funds from his own firm would have compromised the facts of the case itself. If Wade and Willis were married, it would similarly not compromise the case's merits or be unfair to the defendants.

    I expect that the judge will dismiss this specious filing. What kind of dance will Somerby perform then?

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  8. The ghost dance was a religious ceremony performed by Lakota people who were losing their battle with the encroaching American government. Somerby seems to be applying the ghost dance to liberals, with the belief that the left is losing its battle against Trump. Today's essay seems to be written to demoralize liberals at a very early stage in this election, before most of the primaries and before any candidates have been nominated and well before any head-to-head race.

    There is positive news for liberals. For one thing, the a special election in FL for a House race swung from Republican to Democrat, largely on abortion rights. For another thing, Republican voters rejected DeSantis in Iowa, causing him to drop out of the presidential race. He was a horrible choice, so that is good news for everyone, right and left. Trump's strategy for defending himself in the E.Jean Carroll case has been backfiring. Pundits are saying that Trump will lose the classified documents case (which has criminal penalties attached) and that he is in trouble in GA too. We do not know what the impact of those losses will be on undecided voters, independents, and disaffected Republicans, who appear to be swinging to Haley against Trump. Things are not going well on the right, so renewed claims that Trump is going to win again are unwarranted and reflect the hopes of those making such claims (Somerby, dweebs like Bill Maher), not reality.

    But Somerby is energetically doing his part to help Trump's chances. If it is not misogyny or racism that contributes to his willingness to believe Willis is romantically involved with whoever the right links her with, then ask yourself what motivates Somerby to claim he is a liberal while writing today's garbage.

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    1. If it is wrong for Clarence Thomas to take vacations then it is wrong for this conflict of interest.

      There has to be justice asserted to be credibility.

      You liberals are all showing your ass right now, is that what you want to do to break fascism?

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    2. What conflict of interest?

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  9. "Donald Trump blasted out a series of demeaning posts about author E. Jean Carroll on what should have been the last day of his defamation trial.

    The former president posted dozens of screenshots of Carroll tweeting about sex-related topics or jokes, along with right-wing blog posts questioning her motives, character and sanity, during the time Monday morning when the trial was scheduled to resume with him on the stand." [Rawstory]

    This is all these Willis smear attempts are about. The right thinks that the way to defend against a court case is to smear everyone against them, as continuously, as dirty, and as loudly as possible. That is all this attack on Willis is.

    How is Somerby allowing himself to be taken in by these defense tactics? Only MAGAs believe them.

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  10. Bob understands that Willis's allegedly unethical or illegal behavior does not mean that her professional action of charging Trump is necessarily wrong. A similar principle explains why many people will be voting Trump, even though we disapprove of his personal behavior.

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    1. No one has suggested her behavior is illegal.

      If Trump is convicted of actual crimes, people should not vote for him on the grounds that it is just personal behavior. Crimes matter and suggest that Trump would be unfit for office because the president is entrusted with upholding our laws and constitution, not break them. Willis has done nothing to affect the case or her job.

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    2. Plotting to steal the election is not personal behavior, you fucking moron. Stealing government documents and hiding them from the DOJ is not personal behavior. Go fuck yourself, David.

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    3. We disagree with David. Let’s not insult him.

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    4. David insults our intelligence every time he posts his passive aggressive bullshit.

      "A similar principle explains why many people will be voting Trump, even though we disapprove of his personal behavior."

      What the fuck?

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    5. Voting for Trump and simultaneously disapproving his personal behavior is completely understandable. I would have voted for a second Clinton term if the Lewinsky affair and impeachment had occurred during the first. Wouldn't have thought twice. That was a personal matter. If, however, Clinton had failed to return highly classified documents to the authorities after three requests and in fact instructed his employees to hide them in a bathroom, that is not a personal matter. Especially since some, belonging in empty folders, have not been recovered. If, after having been informed that a violent insurrection Clinton had instigated over an election he was told repeatedly by his trusted staff he had lost was ongoing, and he did not raise a finger until after one of his followers was dead? That also is not a personal affair. The truth is that Trump supporters do not care one way or another whether Trump is guilty of public or private transgressions, even those that cost lives and risk national security. That is because their allegiance for Trump transcends any allegiance a citizen would ordinarily possess towards their country. The reasons for this are debatable, but their bullshit deep state explanations and witch hunt pronouncements don't cut it in the real world, however much they would like to plead their case with patriotic citizens who, unlike them, know right from wrong.

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    6. The sad fact of the matter is that Trump's nastiness is what they like about him. David as usual is full of shit.

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    7. 6:58 As long as the word salad is woven in with invective and name calling, what Trump has to say to them registers. Their media outlets constantly reinforce a righteous victimhood mentality. The anger they broadcast is about as authentic as professional wrestling but less subtle. When Tucker Carlson was denigrating our armed forces and espousing the benefits of scrotal tanning I wondered, who seriously watches this? Trump supporters.

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    8. https://twitter.com/i/status/1749638608577761385

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    9. Yes, we're in a "powerful death penalty". I've sensed this for quite a while.
      When asked what his closing message to NH voters was, Trump responded: Trump: … You take immunity from the president, so important, you will have a president that's not going to be able to do anything.

      But Gov. DeSantis kissed the ring and bent the knee, so he is allowed to remain in the party.

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  11. From Somerby's link to Wikipedia:

    "The Sioux also believed that a series of devastating natural disasters would occur, which would wipe out all white people while Native Americans would be protected."

    If you consider this in the longer term, it may be happening now with climate change. Another alternative is that the Yellowstone supervolcano could become active again. Anything is possible.

    The prediction was that the ancestors of the Indians would join the living and be with them in peace forever. That seems pretty innocuous. Our prediction is that the electorate will vote against Trump and that our voting system will continue to function to accomplish a peaceful transition to the next president, without Trump becoming a dictator. That seems pretty innocuous too. It seems odd that Somerby keeps comparing us to lost causes, when the most obvious and pathetic lost cause these days is the confused Donald Jessica Trump.

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  12. There is evidence Trump and Alina Habba are involved romantically. How does that affect her ability to defend him and should she recuse herself?

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    1. anon 12:28. It is unethical for a lawyer to have a sexual relationship with a client. The lawyer would receive some type of sanction. I'm curious though - what is the "evidence" that Habba and Trump are involved romantically?

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    2. Trump has been taking Habba to wrestling matches and other social events, without Melania.

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    3. https://www.newsweek.com/donald-trump-alina-habba-video-goes-viral-1854078

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  13. What is the point of this ghost dance analogy? It feels like Somerby is needling libs with a cultural misappropriation that has little relevance to our current political situation. I don't see enough parallels to justify this particular borrowing.

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  14. Read these comments. Are they unwittingly supporting Somerby's thesis that our tribe is engaging in a ghost dance?

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    1. I don't see how. Dems control the presidency and the senate and the House is in disarray. Where is the hopeless despair of being defeated by a much more powerful enemy, the unrealistic belief that magic shirts will protect us from bullet? I just don't see it. We have a highly successful president and a solid economy. Why should there be gloom?

      Somerby also misses that the ghost dance was an expression of hope, not defeat. That is why the US opposed it with troops.

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    2. Yes, Pied Piper. When I first started reading these comments, I felt confused and suspected that they were being posted ironically, to illustrate what was wrong with today's leftists. Like an exhibition of the behavior Bob would often point out. I thought, wow there are some clever people on here with a great sense of humor!

      Needless to say, the actual truth is disappointing. And I can only tolerate reading these so much these days. It's depressing.

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    3. Yes, and you conservatives depress the liberals who comment here too. Don’t feel like you have to be here.

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    4. I'm a conservative for what I posted? Sorry, I am not.

      I'll come here when I want regardless of your opinion on it. I don't need your approval or blessing to be here.

      So you took issue with / identified with my criticisms huh? What does that tell you?

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    5. You are the one who complained about comments here. Don’t come here if you don’t like the company.

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    6. I was having a conversation with Pied Piper. It's of interest to me. Why are you in this thread? To derail it.

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    7. It's like having to explain something to a child. I come here to read comments that are not by the weird un-self aware liberals. Someone points out what I observed and how they felt the same. A conversation ensues. Now, one of the commenters we are referencing jumps into the discussion and starts exhibiting the same crazy behavior. Does any of this make sense to you?

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    8. There are no private conversations in blog comments.

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    9. I didn't say there were. I should actually thank you for exhibiting this crazy behavior. It may help swing the pendulum back to normalcy someday. At the cost of an election or two going to the crazy right wingers first though.

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    10. "I suspected that [comments] were being posted ironically, to illustrate what was wrong with today's leftists. Like an exhibition of the behavior Bob would often point out."

      Yes. Exactly.

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    11. Defining yourself as normal while calling others crazy is not civil behavior in blog comments. Both of you should focus on the discussion and offer arguments, facts and debate, not just call other people names.

      For a while, I thought that Somerby was posting ironically, being a devil's advocate and expressing right wing ideas so that commenters could examine them, and learn by disputing them. I abandoned that thesis a long time ago because of Somerby's own actions. What he writes isn't to stimulate thought, but it is straight-forward conservative talking points, issued along with the rest of the conservatives on the same days and in the same manner. There is nothing clever or interesting about his approaches and they are Republican party line.

      If Somerby wants to call me an example of the blue tribe behavior he considers misguided, he is welcome to do that, as are any of his commenters. I am liberal (not so much progressive), old-school union and social justice advocate, academic and proud of it. I fit right in with Democrats in CO where I live. I worry about climate change and fight for the environment and I want gun control. I do not pretend to be a conservative or say I will vote for Trump when that is far from the truth. Somerby should be similarly honest about his views and intentions here. His lies are not only as anti-social as Trump, but they are confusing to you conservative fanboys and perhaps counter-productive to his attempts to put Trump back in office. Confusing the discourse is part of his agenda, as is spreading disinformation (by posting right wing excerpts that lefties wouldn't normally see) and distorting truth (usually by hiding it). He is also a fairly obvious misogynist and racist and bigot. Not as bad as Scott Adams, but pretty close. And it appears those are his genuine attitudes, not party of his advancement of right wing memes about putting women back in the kitchen or scaring people over black female Kamala Harris being a breath away from the presidency.

      There is no irony in what Somerby writes, and none intended in any of my comments. What you see is what you get.

      If Somerby is truly a biden-supporting liberal, then you fanboys are barking up the wrong tree.

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  15. Bob is less cognitive now than he was back in 1998.

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    1. It's crazy huh. I mean compared to those people who's cognitive powers increased in their elder years? You guys are unintentionally hilarious! Do you gaslight and fake your way through real life too? Seriously, I'm curious. What a way to exist.

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    2. Dementia is not normal among the aged. But Somerby used to write much better blog posts back before he started watching Fox News. It is ok to say that.

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    3. Less cognitive does not equal dementia. I enjoy his posts. Even the recent ones. To each his own. Even when we're talking about reality, I suppose. While we're talking about mental issues...

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    4. Trump's gaffes are more than the occasional mental lapse that the elderly have. He is confusing people, times and places in important speeches. He is also having confusion about logistics, showing an inability to control impulses, greater irritability and anger, and problems with words. He doesn't seem to notice or understand when he has said something ridiculous, such as that windmills are killing whales or EVs won't start in cold weather.

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  16. North Korea is preparing for war.

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  17. "A Georgia judge declined to order Fulton County District Attorney Fani Willis to take the stand in prosecutor Nathan Wade's divorce case. Willis has been accused of an affair with Wade, who she then hired to work on the racketeering case against Donald Trump.

    In a hearing on Monday, Cobb County Judge Henry Thompson ruled that Wade's divorce records would be unsealed. But the judge stayed an order for Willis to sit for a deposition."

    Rawstory

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    1. Since when does a defendant in a RICO case get to investigate the private life of one of the prosecutors? Special new rules for the Orange Abomination?

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  18. Dexter King has died.

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  19. How about Ghost Dances with Wolves! If wolves can come back in our wilderness areas, Lakotas can too, and then even Democrats will have a chance at the polls! Somerby is a moron.

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