BREAKING: An attempt to discuss graduation rates!

TUESDAY, MARCH 27, 2018

More bungled work at the Times:
The boxed sub-headline on the column had a gloomy feel. Specifically, here's what it said:
More poor students are going to college, but the number of graduates falls.
Frankly, it sounded bad. It sounded like the column in question concerned the nation's "poor students." It sounded like the number of college graduates among that group has been in decline.

In fact, the column wasn't about "poor" students at all. If you read some extremely tiny print beneath a graphic the column contained, you could see that the column was actually about students from "the lowest wealth group," defined as students from "the bottom 40 percent of households."

Is forty percent of the country "poor?" Increasingly, everything is possible, but the official poverty rate in 2016 was 12.6 percent.

In fact, the column in question wasn't about students who are poor; it was about kids from the lower 40 percent of the income distribution. That said, it isn't true that fewer kids from that income group are graduating from college. If you simply look at the graphic we've mentioned, it's clear that the number of college graduates in that income group has gone up, to the extent that the study in question could determine such matters.

As such, the boxed sub-headline on the New York Times column was flatly wrong, in two different ways. In fairness, the author of the column, David Leonhardt, didn't exactly make either such claim in his actual column, although he came darn close.

That isn't to say that the column stated its findings clearly. Possibly somewhat idiocratically, here's how Leonhardt began:
LEONHARDT (3/25/18): First, some good news: In recent decades, students from modest backgrounds have flooded onto college campuses. At many high schools where going to college was once exotic, it’s now normal. When I visit these high schools, I see college pennants all over the hallways, intended to send a message: College is for you, too.

And thank goodness for that message. As regular readers of this column have heard before, college can bring enormous benefits, including less unemployment, higher wages, better long-term health and higher life satisfaction.

Now for the bad news: The college-graduation rate for these poorer students is abysmal. It’s abysmal even though many of them are talented teenagers capable of graduating. Yet they often attend colleges with few resources or colleges that simply do a bad job of shepherding students through a course of study.

The result is both counterintuitive and alarming. Even as the college-attendance gap between rich and poor has shrunk, the gap in the number of rich and poor college graduates has grown. That shouldn’t be happening.
We'll call that a New York Times classic:

In his opening paragraph, Leonhardt says he's discussing "students from modest backgrounds." He never explains what that means.

By paragraph 3, a change has occurred. Now we're told that he is discussing "poorer students." Though this description is remarkably vague, it still isn't exactly wrong.

In paragraph 4, he goes all the way. We're now told that we're discussing "rich and poor," more specifically that we're discussing "the number of rich and poor college graduates."

In fact, we aren't discussing "poor college graduates." We're never told who we're really discussing—students who come from homes in the bottom 40 percent.

In fairness, none of this actually matters. It doesn't matter because nothing of substance actually turns on anything that's ever said in New York Times opinion columns, or anywhere else in the paper.

The paper exists to fill us with sop, and to convey a good upper-class impression. Plainly, no one seems to care if the newspaper's work is even marginally accurate.

Presumably, it would be good to create a world in which more kids from modest or even poverty backgrounds could succeed in public school and then go on to succeed in college. That said, let's be real. Nothing you read in the New York Times will ever serve that end.

The paper's education reporting has been a joke for as long as we've been reading the paper. They finally reassigned Motoko Rich away from the education beat, where she made so many astonishing errors. But nothing you read in the Times about public schools is likely to ever make sense.

Also this—no one who reads the New York Times gives a flying fig or felafel about kids "from modest backgrounds." If you can't see that from reading the paper, there's a chance that you, like Donald J. Trump, don't know how to read at all.

Leonhardt is supposed to be one of the Times' bright ones. That said, the boxed sub-headline on his column is bogus in two major ways.

On the brighter side, it seems to make a gloomy claim about the state of education today. That's all the Times has ever asked of work in this general field.

Late in his column, Leonhardt says the college graduation gap "makes the United States a less fair country." We'd say that employing scribes like Leonhardt makes the country less fair.

Leonhardt says he'll be writing columns about ways to address the problem he so murkily describes. Will he have some good ideas? Given the track record of his paper, would any person who was sane actually take that bet?

Suggestions from the assignment desk: Where did Stormy go to high school? Who was she blanking back then?

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  1. Howler readers, please click on the link to Leonhardt's story. Where does it say "More poor students are going to college, but the number of graduates falls."?

    When I click, the headline says:
    "The Growing College Graduation Gap"

    Sorry. I stopped reading Bob's post when his bungling became apparent.

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    1. My dude! It is from the sub headline in the print edition, as Somerby states! It doesn't always make it into the online version of the article!

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    2. Somerby never stated anything about a print edition.

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    3. My dude! Most of us don't get the printed version of the Times. Most Times subscribers are digital nowadays as well. Should Somerby perhaps have checked his link? BUNGLED.

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  2. Today's Krugman op-ed had three or four commenters bemoaning the continuing decline in education. It seems to be a pleasing narrative.

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  3. "Late in his column, Leonhardt says the college graduation gap "makes the United States a less fair country.""

    Yeah, 'low social mobility' is a typical liberal complaint.

    They don't mind the class system, they just want the 'smart ones' (psychos, basically) from the lower orders to be able to rise to the top. So that the rest of us could be exploited more efficiently.

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    1. Doesn't Uncle Vova exploit you enough ?

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  4. You'd think the first order of business for some of these lay-abouts heading the households involved in the citations below would be to get themselves a million dollar book deal advance ASAP. After all, "America's always been great." But what's a neo-liberal to do? According to a May, 2016 Washington Post article LINK:

    [QUOTE] Technically speaking, America’s economic recovery from the Great Recession is in its seventh year, making it one of the longest expansions on record. The unemployment rate is falling, businesses are hiring and there are finally some signs that wages are rising.

    But for so many households, that progress still feels painfully remote.

    The Federal Reserve surveyed more than 5,000 people to determine whether their personal situations were improving along with the economy. The results, released Wednesday afternoon, found that though households showed “mild improvement” overall, their perspective depended on their income, race and education.

    Take this one telling statistic: About 46 percent of Americans said they did not have enough money to cover a $400 emergency expense. Instead, they would have to put it on a credit card and pay it off over time, borrow from friends or family, or simply not cover it at all.

    Not surprisingly, those with higher incomes were better equipped to handle an emergency.... [END QUOTE]

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    [QUOTE] Approximately 52.2 million (or 21.3 percent) people in the U.S. participated in major means-tested government assistance programs each month in 2012, according to a U.S. Census Bureau report released today. Participation rates were highest for Medicaid (15.3 percent) and the Supplemental Nutrition Assistance Program, formerly known as the food stamp program (13.4 percent).

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    compared with 16.6 percent of people age 18 to 64 and 12.6 percent of people 65 and older. [END QUOTE]

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  5. "If you simply look at the graphic we've mentioned, it's clear that the number of college graduates in that income group has gone up"

    Since I don't get the printed copy of the Times, I dutifully followed Somerby's link, where I see a graph that shows the number attending college had risen for the lowest 40% over time (the dashed line on top), but the graduation rate stayed flat ( the solid line on the bottom).

    What is Somerby talking about?

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    1. Let's say 10% [meaning at the rate of one out of ten] of the 50 [a number] freshmen in the Class of 1974 go on to graduate after four years then there were 5 on-time graduates from that class. Let's say 10% [that is, at the same previous rate of 1 out of 10] of the 70 [a number greater than 50, obviously] freshmen in the Class of 1994 graduate after four years then there were 7 on-time graduates from that later class.

      As the graduation rate remained the same for both the Class of 1974 and the Class of 1994 but the number of freshmen had been larger for the Class of 1994 than for the Class of 1974, then the number of on-time graduates, also, had "gone up" for the later class.

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    2. Sorry CMike. That is not what the study
      measured. But you would not know that either from reading Leonhardt or the perpetually bitchy Bob Somerby.

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    3. Dave the Guitar PlayerMarch 28, 2018 at 12:27 PM

      The fact that you would not know that from reading Leonhardt, that is the point of Bob's rant.

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    4. No, Bob's rant is as misinformed as he claims Leonhardt to be. And thus he is a guilty and useless as he claims the Times to be.

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  6. This comes from the ONLINE version of the article:

    To understand the data, you need to look at the caption under the graph in Leonhardt's article, where it says: "Lowest wealth group is the bottom 40 percent of households; middle wealth is the middle 40 percent; upper wealth is the top 20 percent. "

    Then you need to notice the source of the data listed in the caption: "Source: Fabian Pfeffer, “Growing Wealth Gaps in Education,” the journal Demography. "

    Then you can follow the link in the story (http://fabianpfeffer.com/wp-content/uploads/Pfeffer2018.pdf) to figure out the definitions for the quintiles. You will see on p42 of the report the definitions. The first quintile (bottom 20%) consists of households with median wealth of 0, going from -1277.9 to 4.8. But you need to multiply each number by 1000. Thus, the actual range is -1,277,900 to $4,800.

    The next quintile has median wealth of $21,300, going from $4,900 to $45,500.

    Some in the second quintile may be above the poverty line, although the poverty line is dependent on the number of people in the household. The poverty threshold is up at $54,287 for a family unit with 9 or more people. (this from the census bureau). The practical poverty line may be higher for a given area, depending on cost of living.

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    1. The poverty threshold you mention is a measurement based on annual income. The quintiles in the study are based on net family wealth, not income.

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  7. The Daily Howler only drags out articles about education, mostly from the Post and the Times, in order to deride them. The contempt that infects the Howler infects his readers. It does not lead anyone to care about education.

    Is it too much to ask Somerby to work a little harder and seek out good articles about education from time to time? From outside his usual sources? The internet is an amazing place to find all kinds of things.

    And if there aren't any, as Somerby sometimes seems to imply, then what's the point of posting about this topic? Create something then, rather than tear down.

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    1. I guess this is your idea of dry humor, if not then you're the joke.

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    2. Somerby misrepresents this article, along with just about every other one he cites about education. He quotes something from it, derides it, then offers his usual bullshit shtick "no one cares", "it's all lies"...what a joke Somerby is.

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  8. Students need money for living expenses and books, not just tuition. Those who work many hours while attending college have a harder time graduating. Some work 30-40 hrs or more. This obviously affects students with lower incomes more. This isn’t rocket science.

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  11. "In fact, the column in question wasn't about students who are poor; it was about kids from the lower 40 percent of the income distribution."

    No Bob. The column was about the findings of a study which showed that the gap in college graduation rates between those with rich parents and those with poor parents are growing. And the
    study was not based on income, but a measure of wealth. The chart placed in the column is but one example of the findings of the study.

    Your critique is absurd.

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    Melissa Deditch born in Los Angeles Usa.. my boyfriend told me it was over and walk away without any reasons, I was confuse and didn't know what to do. I was desperate, I want him back, I went over the internet looking for ways to get my boyfriend back. I read about many different ways of how to get ex back, but Dr happy caught my attention. I immediately contacted him and explained my problem to him. It was amazing and surprising that 11hrs after the urgent love spell was cast, my boyfriend called me and was begging me to forgive him and accept him back, Couldn't believe, but later after he came to my house and fell on his knees asking me to take him back am so happy that my love is back again. I am testifying on this forum just to let people know that Dr happy is real and genuine. don't hesitate to try him out. thank you Dr happy you are truly talented and gifted genuine spell caster. Contact him now if you need your girlfriend/boyfriend back or your girlfriend moved on to another man, do not cry anymore .. Dr happy is here to help out in relationship problem coz problem share is problem solve:
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  20. I want to say a special thanks to Dr. Manbela who helped me bring back my ex lover. i never thought we are going to be back again until i come across Dr. Manbela who helped me. but in case you will need his help for any other problem you can contact him through manbelaspelltemple1@gmail.com or add him up on whatsapp in +2348112060023. thanks Dr. manbela

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  21. Hi, I finally understood how spell works. my wife left me due to the fact that i was diagnosed with Herpes Simplex Virus. I was heart broken that she left me for another. I did all i could to get her back but all i did never worked out for me not until my cousin from New Zealand got me informed about this man called Lord Doctor Zakuza that he's very powerful and can be of help to me. I believed and got in touch with the Doctor and i opened up to him everything that i was going through. Could you believe it that i was cured from the Herpes Simplex Virus and my wife came back all within 12 to 16 hours after i contacted the Doctor. Everything happened miraculously just has he told me if only i have faith & believe that it will happen and now my wife is here with me again and am strong & healthy again. All thanks to Lord Doctor Zakuza for his help. Get in touch now for any help whatsoever for i believe that he can help you too. For urgent response, Whats App him via + 1 (631)-857-8413 or Email: doctorzakuzaspelltemple@yahoo.com

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  22. My name is PEGGY LORA from United States, I want to quickly tell the world that there is a real on line spell caster that is powerful and genuine, His name is DR Zaba , He helped me recently to reunite my relationship with my husband who left me, When i contacted DR Zaba he cast a love spell for me and my husband who said he doesn't have anything to do with me again called me and started begging me. he is back now with so much love and carting. today i am glad to let you all know that this spell caster have the powers to bring lovers back. because i am now happy with my husband. To anyone who is reading this article and needs any help, DR Zaba can also offer any types of help like Reuniting of marriage and relationship, Curing of all types of Diseases, Court Cases, Pregnancy Spell, Spiritual protection and lot's more. You can contact him Via this email Zaba24hoursspell@gmail.com or Zaba24hoursspell@yahoo.com or whats-App him on these number. +2347087462033.

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  23. Hello my name Lena i want to testify of a mighty and great spell caster called Priest Ade,I had difficulties getting pregnant due to chronic medical illness this got me so worried and sad my husband wasn't happy with it and one night he came back home angry he told me he wanted to be a father and since i couldn't make him that he has decided to marry someone else and divorce me i was devastated and cried all night was afraid i would end up in the hospital kept thinking about the good times we had together and how much i was going to miss him, i was looking for something online when a message pooped up concerning this great spell caster and how he have helped so many in similar problems i thought about it for some time and decided to give him a try when i contacted him he told me that after 24 hrs my husband will be back and i will be pregnant i did everything he asked me to do, to my greatest surprise the next day it was my husband back home he knell down begging for forgiveness and he canceled the divorce,4 week after the doctor confirmed that i'm pregnant i'm so happy, he can help you as well contact him at

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  24. URGENT GENUINE LOVE-SPELL TO GET YOUR EX BOYFRIEND/GIRLFRIEND OR HUSBAND/WIFE BACK FAST.
    I have something to share with you!!! There is a great joy in my heart which I want to share with everyone. My name is Jessica Jackson, from united States. I had a misunderstanding with my lover last year which led us to break up and he never wanted to hear my voice again. He saw a beautiful woman which he find more prettier than me, but as time went on I met god Dr Purity He is a great spell caster. I contacted him through his email and
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  25. This is a Wonderful testimony on a Spell caster called DR UZOYA that Just helped me and Brought My Ex Husband back within 2 Days with his Love spell. I am MORENO HADIC from MEXICO, my Life has being very Difficult for me Since my Husband Left me and my Two Kids. My Kids and I had being Missing My Husband, and I cried almost Everyday because of him, One Faithful Day, Someone Directed me to This man called DR UZOYA and I Contacted him VIA Email and He Cast a Love spell for me and Told me that i will see the Result within 2 DAYS, My Husband That Left me For about 3 years Called me And Started opposing and he even sent me an apologizing Text. From that Moment, I and My Family had being Living happily. Readers Out There, Who are in Pains and have Great Pleasure in Contacting this Man should do that On this Email; driraborspellcaster@gmail.com or call him +1(301) 909-8775 thank you so much Dr,UZOYA for all you done for me.

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  26. An urgent notification to anyone looking for ways to get back his or her else lover is to contact Dr. Peter on peterlovespell1@gmail.com or call +2348073141298 Because he has all it take to bring back ex lover and re-unite broken relationship within the space of 48hours. I confirmed that when I contacted him for help and now my ex boyfriend that left me 8 months ago is back into arms again, this was made possible with the help of the love spell Dr. Peter did for me.

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  27. Hello everyone, I was infected with the herpes virus and I got cured of the herpes virus few months ago after i contacted Dr Ero. I saw a post on the internet after i have seek healing for several years from different doctors in California. I sent the Doctor a request for help, just a few email i followed his instruction and he sent me the medication after i paid him. Now i am negative and i referred him to all my friend who had this same sickness and they have gotten their cure too. You can contact him via his email. dreroherbaltreatment@gmail.com . Thank You Dr Ero and text me for further information (650) 653-8578..

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  28. I want to use this means to let the world know that all hope is not lost Getting pregnant after having tubes clamped and burned, I know IVF and Reversal could help but it way too cost, i couldn't afford it either and i so desire to add another baby to my family been trying for 5 years, not until i came across Dr.AGBAZARA TEMPLE, who cast a pregnancy/Fertility spell for me and i got pregnant.l hope that women out there who are going through the same fears and worries l went through in GETTING PREGNANT , will find your contact and be happy like me as i drop it here on this site, and solution will come to them as they contact you. Thank you and God bless you to reach him email via: ( agbazara@gmail.com ) or Call/WhatsApp +2348104102662

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  29. Powerful Love Spell Caster-Get Your Ex Wife/Husband Back Fast Now By Dr.Happy..My name is John Cooney from NJ Usa, I want to quickly tell the world that there is a real on line spell caster that is powerful and genuine, His name is Dr happy he helped me recently to reunite my relationship with my wife who left me, When i contacted Dr happy he cast an urgent love spell for me, and my wife who said she doesn't have anything to do with me again called me and started begging me to come back. she is back now with so much love and care. today i am glad to let you all know that this spell caster have the powers to restore broken marriage/relationship back. because i am now happy with my wife. to anyone who is reading this article and needs any help, Dr happy can also offer any type of help like, Curing of all types of Diseases, Court Cases, Pregnancy Spell, urgent love spell,Spiritual protection and lot's more. You can contact him Via his email happylovespell2@gmail.com also His blogs site... https://happylovespell2.blogspot.com.ng/ for more info, whatsapp/call...+2348133873774
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  30. My partner and I have been trying for a baby for over 11years, We were going to a fertility clinic for years before somebody told me to contact this spell caster who is so powerful called Agbazara Temple for him to help me get pregnant,And I'm glad we contacted DR.AGBAZARA, Because his pregnancy spell cast put us at ease, and I honestly believe him, and his powers really helped us as well, I am thankful for all he has done. contact him via email at: ( agbazara@gmail.com ) if you are trying to get a baby, he has powers to do it.

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  31. DR YAKAYA SPELL IS THE BEST SPELL ANYONE WILL LIKE TO USE TO BRING BACK THEIR EX BACK. WE KNOW THERE ARE SOME BREAK UP THAT WE DON'T WISH FOR IT TO HAPPEN BUT IT CAN JUST HAPPEN BECAUSE YOUR LOVER MAY NOT LOVE YOU THE SAME WAY YOU LOVE HIM OR HER, THEN HE/HER MIGHT JUST DECIDE TO BREAK UP WITH YOU BECAUSE THEY DON'T FEEL THE LOVE YOU HAVE FOR THEM OR YOU MIGHT HAVE SOME MISS UNDERSTANDING THAT WILL LEAD TO A BREAK FOR OVER SOME MONTHS OR YEAR, THEN YOU MIGHT NEED HELP TO GET HIM OR HER BACK JUST CONTACT DR YAKAYA VIA HIS EMAIL ADDRESS YAKAYATEMPLE@GMAIL.COM OR WHATSAPP HIM VIA HIS MOBILE NUMBER +15184251446 TO HELP YOU OUT

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  32. Am Mr Barry James from USA, I want to thank this great man Dr Akhere who helped me getting my Dream job i have been praying all day and night, did numerous fasting and prayers, and a friend of introduced me to him that it was this same man that helped him out when he was looking for job too and today he owe all appreciation to Dr AKHERE.
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  33. REAL SPELL CASTER (LORD JUMA) THAT CAN HELP YOU GET YOUR LOVER BACK add him up on whatsApp @ +1 (859)-203-2241

    Hi everyone, I was going crazy when my husband breakup with me and left me for another woman!! All thanks to LORD JUMA the best love spell caster online that helped me to bring back my husband today and restore happiness in my marriage.. I'm DIANA DIVEN by name i lives in England. My husband breakup with me and left me to be with another woman, and i wanted him back. I was so frustrated and i could not know what next to do again, I love my husband so much but he was cheating on me with another woman and this makes him break up with me so that he can be able to get married to the other lady and this lady i think use witchcraft on my husband to make him hate me and my kids and this was so critical and uncalled-for, I cry all day and night for God to send me a helper to get back my husband!! I was really upset and i needed help, so i searched for help online and I came across a website that suggested that LORD JUMA can help get ex back fast. So, I felt I should give him a try. I contacted him and he told me what to do and i did it then he did a spell for me. 28 hours later, my husband really called me and told me that he miss me so much, Oh My God! i was so happy, and today i am happy with my man again and we are joyfully living together as one big family and i thank the powerful spell caster LORD JUMA, he is so powerful and i decided to share my story on the internet that LORD JUMA is best spell caster online who i will always pray to live long to help his children in the time of trouble, if you are here and your lover is turning you down, or your husband moved to another woman, do not cry anymore, contact this powerful spell caster LORD JUMA on his email at: mercyfullsolutionhome@yahoo.com or you can visit his Website Via> https://mercyfullsolutionhome.wordpress.com/testimonials or his page https://mercyfullsolutionhome.blogspot.com add him up on whatsApp @ +1 (859)-203-2241

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