BREAKING: The lovely shall be choosers, Frost said!

WEDNESDAY, MARCH 28, 2018

Vladimir Putin interfered, as did Clifford and Flowers:
All the talk about the "silencing" of Stephanie Clifford has had us thinking about The Lovely Shall Be Choosers.

It's one of Frost's most unusual poems. Frost apparently acknowledged, along the way, that the poem was about the difficult, disappointing life of his mother, Isabelle Moodie Frost, who hailed from Lawrence, Mass.

We believe we first got that idea, long ago, from a major book about Frost by Lawrance Thompson. Diane Hulett explained it like this:
HULETT: The melancholy poem questions whether the stages or "joys" in women's lives may really be nothing more than punishment for loving and serving others...

The poem depicts control of a woman's life by the superior Voice and attendant Voices, who devise a series of seven "joys" that "let her choose" but eventually result in the Voices' triumph at the expense of the woman's self-definition. The seven "joys" coincide roughly with the traditional events in a woman's life. Each "joy" is actually a secret sorrow because the woman must sublimate her desires to fulfill her role as wife and mother. At each stage, the woman "almost speaks," but time and fate prevent communication. The conspiracy between the Voice and the Voices to silence women might be read as any of a variety of forces that affect women...
The actual poem is here. Way back in 1955, Nitchie and Werner elaborated on some of the "joys" the mournful poem describes:
NITCHIE AND WERNER: Her first joy is an unalloyed one in a marriage she believes to be something special, not an ordinary wedding. But she soon finds that her husband is unworthy. Her second joy is that for a time she can conceal her disillusionment and grief from others. Her third joy is that when she can no longer do so—probably the man deserts her—she has so lost touch with her former friends that they barely notice her grief...
And so on, moving on from there.

Frost was born in 1874. This would have been the life of a woman who lived a long time ago.

Concerning the "silencing," we generally wish that someone had paid Stephanie Clifford plenty of money and had successfully "silenced" her about her exciting past alleged f**king.

As of 2011, there was no conceivable reason for her to try to sell her story about allegedly f**king Donald J. Trump. At that time, before any alleged physical threat had allegedly occurred, she was willing to bring a lot of embarrassment and pain to others, including to a 5-year-old child, for the asking price of $15,000.

This is the person we're now being asked to lionize, to see as a feminist hero. We'd be inclined to see her as someone who might need some help, as so many of us the humans do.

By the fall of 2016, Clifford was trying to inject herself into—you might even say "interfere with"—a presidential election. Back in 1992, Gennifer Flowers had done the same thing, hijacking the 1992 primary race with a thrilling, dramatic story about her torrid love affair with Bill Clinton, a thrilling story which was almost surely invented, bogus, false.

Flowers scored well over $500,000 for the thrilling story she told, almost knocking Clinton out of the race in the process. By 1999, she was selling brain-damaged stories about all the people the Clintons had murdered, having written about what an ugly scut the big fat first lady was.

This is who Flowers was. Along the way, idiocrats like Frank Rich had decided to lionize her for her amazing truthfulness. By 1998, almost all the upper-end children were reciting this pitiful line.

Do we live in an idiocracy? When we lionize hustlers like Flowers and Clifford, it's hard to see why a person would ask.

Putin actively interfered. So did Flowers, then Clifford.

54 comments:

  1. Flowers and Clifford did interfere, but Putin? I haven't seen any evidence, and the whole idea sounds like complete and utter bullshit invented by liberal losers.

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    1. It's tough to see anything from that dreary cubicle.

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    2. Thanks for sharing, dear one-line dembot. Sorry, I can't help, please contact your 'controller'.

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    3. Mao Cheng- you really fascinate me because you are so drearily relentless every day in trying to influence the 12 people who read Somerby's shitty obscure blog here. Like, you put so much effort into trying to spread your laughably transparent crap, I really wonder why anyone would waste their time and effort doing that. Seriously, every time you post, maybe 9 people will read it on a good day and they'll roll their eyes and skip your obvious garbage.

      So, why do you do it? I am anthropologically interested in what sort of person you are that you comically come here to badger a handful of people with your nonsense day after day. I'm not mad, just curious! Like, I am trying to imagine someone wasting their time and their life writing dumb shit on this blog that no one reads. You put such extraordinary effort into it. I mean, do you have Downs or something and this is a project your handlers set you up with so you'll feel useful or something? Were you a Special Ed kid? I mean this with sympathy, but you seem like a- I don't want to say, "retarded"- person, being used. Your posts have this sad stink of desperation. Are you being held hostage?

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    4. Hello Anonymous. Thank you for your interest; I, too, would like very much to correspond with you.

      Could you answer my question first, though: what compelled you to act like an asshole at 8:34 AM today? If you re-read your comment above you'll know what I mean.

      I find it fascinating that you did so much typing just to demonstrate your being an asshole. Are you a genuine and consistent asshole in all aspects of your life, or only in anonymous online commenting?

      Thanks in advance.

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    5. "what compelled you to act like an asshole at 8:34 AM today?"

      It's one cry for a "safe space" after another with Mao "the snowflake".

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    6. 11:57,
      It's baked in to Conservativism. Remember when the GOP cried about John Kerry's jokes, while making believe they were tough enough to handle ISIL?
      The toughness is just a posture, the real GOP is afraid of their own shadow. It's why they always want "Daddy government" to save them, as they hide under their beds from the terrorists.

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    7. Whoa, lib-zombie and one-line dembot engaged in some sort of communication (or whatever the hell that was). What a fantastic un-natural phenomenon...

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    8. "un-natural", like your prose, comrade.

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    9. BTW: Comrade, it's well-understood that you get paid for quantity rather than quality, so your resentment toward succinct commenters is also understandable.

      Pro Tip: the "dembot" retort is so played as to be inoffensive. Tweak your script and try to keep up.

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  2. It's curious for Somerby to begin his post with a lengthy foray into Frosts's poem which concerns, according to the experts who do Bob's thinking for him, "The conspiracy between the Voice and the Voices to silence women."

    Then Somerby turns around and says "Concerning the "silencing," we generally wish that someone had paid Stephanie Clifford plenty of money and had successfully "silenced" her."

    Thus giving the Bronx cheer to Frost and his mother.

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    1. Man, you are twisted!

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    2. Somerby references a poem that critiques the silencing of women, then wishes a woman (Clifford) were silenced...and it's Anon 2:19 who is twisted? 'K.

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    3. I agree. The incredible shallowness of selecting a very sad poem about a woman's loss of her "brightness" in lonely silence and using it to segue to a diatribe against Clifford is stunning!!

      I don't know whether this is utter denseness or hostility toward women, but this is one of the most awful things Somerby has done. The poem is tragic, written about a mother the poet clearly cares about, and Somerby uses it to attack another woman for speaking out. That is horrible!

      Frost is a man's poet, not a woman's. It is highly likely he has misunderstood his mother's feelings about her own life. The critical readings offered by Somerby's excerpts were a bit different than my own reading of the poem. But it is about loss of potential via choices that women make early in life, that are natural yet difficult to escape.

      Clifford exemplifies a woman who has made very different choices than most women make. She has had a successful life that she does not regret, based on both current and past interviews with her and based on her own actions. That makes her something of a feminist hero before she speaks a word about anything else. It is not surprising that she is challenging Trump. She has challenged gender roles and developed a spine earlier in life, unlike the woman in this poem. It may be that the autonomy of Clifford is what spurs men like Somerby to attack her (in the guise of defending Trump's possible innocence). She is an affront to him before she says a word. Because she made the wrong choices and preserved her "brightness" and because he choice was different than what men wish upon women.

      (Note how Frost disavows responsibility for the roles women are assigned by having Voices create them. Women only think they are choosing. Frost is nevertheless the author of that reality, just as men keep women in their places as much as they can.)

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    4. Her choice wasn't "exactly different than what choice men wish upon women" in fact it is the choice men wish upon all women except maybe our daughter and sister. Do you know any men?

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    5. @6:41--Do you know any women?

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    6. If this is what men want from women, why is Clifford being punished for her profession?

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  3. Flowers, Clifford, Putin... not a dime's worth of difference between them. Can't think of a thing.

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  4. Somerby can sure quote those Cliff's notes about a poem. It is arguable whether he has any idea of his own about the Frost poem.

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  5. "we generally wish that someone had paid Stephanie Clifford plenty of money and had successfully "silenced" her."

    But he doesn't specifically wish this?

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  6. "we generally wish that someone had paid Stephanie Clifford plenty of money and had successfully "silenced" her."

    This is exactly what has happened to Melania.

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  7. This article is based on the Google query about why women talk so much. It turns out they don't, looked at objectively. The better question is why do men always want to silence women? Specifically, why does Somerby want to silence Clifford? Why does Frost use silence to describe women's disappointments in his poem?

    https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2018/feb/14/why-do-women-talk-so-much-google-autocomplete

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    1. "Specifically, why does Somerby want to silence Clifford?"

      He says right there in the post dummy. He said it over and over.

      He wishes she was silenced because doing so would prevent suckers like you from being further hustled and scammed by con artists like Clifford and the void of such circus spectacular chicanery would pave away to more substantive publc discussions.

      (I realize that that is impossible because we are wired for gossip and at this point completely addicted to it and television. We don't directly live anymore. We live our lives through media.)

      I know you disagree but stop asking stupid questions like why. He says it over and over.

      I swear to God you're so fucking drop-dead dumb.

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    2. Anon 6:19 comes from the Somerby school of respectful responses.

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    3. Who would respect someone who doesn't think before they write, who doesn't read or attempt to understand the person they criticize?

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    4. Spoken without irony.

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    5. 6:19,
      You nailed it. Somerby blames Clifford, not Jeff Zucker, for our political discussions. This helps explain why many think Somerby is an idiot.

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  19. Get your lover back urgent effective love spell to win and get ex boyfriend back my advise reveal you all to contact Dr happy for a genuine love spell on happylovespell2@gmail.com that work fast. here is my relationship story my names are
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  26. My name is Sumaila Joy , My Ex-Husband dumped me two weeks ago after I
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  30. I felt my life was over and my kids thought they would never see their father again. i tried to be strong just for the kids but i could not control the pains that torments my heart, my heart was filled with sorrows and pains because i was really in love with my husband. Every day and night i think of him and always wish he would come back to me. I was really upset and i needed help, so i searched for help online and I came across a website: https://manifestspellcast.wordpress.com that suggested that Dr.Todd can help get ex back fast. So, I felt I should give him a try.
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