THROUGH A GLASS EXTREMELY DARKLY: Savannah Guthrie gets it right!

FRIDAY, OCTOBER 16, 2020

The absence of the logicians: What happened last night happens so rarely that it should be memorialized. 

Last night, Savannah Guthrie asked the commander-in-chief a perfectly sensible question. And yes, it actually happened:

When the commander didn't answer her question, she asked her question again!

In fact, depending on the way you want to count, she asked her question as many as seven times. Here's how the extended exchange began. You almost never see what happened next:

GUTHRIE (10/15/20): Well, let’s talk about testing because there’s a little bit of a, I guess, confusion about this. And I think we can clear it up.

TRUMP: Yeah, and there shouldn’t be.

GUTHRIE: Your first positive test was Thursday, October 1st, okay? When was your last negative test? When did you last remember having a negative test?

For transcript and tape, click here.

The commander tested positive on Thursday, October 1. He had debated Candidate Biden, live and in person, just two nights before.

Had Trump produced a negative test before the debate with Biden? This question has been floating around for the past two weeks.

Guthrie asked a form of that question in the passage we've posted. When was Trump's last negative test? Here's the non-answer he gave her:

TRUMP (continuing directly): Well, I test quite a bit, and I can tell you that before the debate, which I thought was a very good debate, and I felt fantastically, I was, I had no problems before. It was afterwards—

Trump hadn't answered the question. If this had happened at a White House press briefing, slumbering journalists would have rolled over and asked him about something else.

Guthrie wasn't playing that game. In response to Trump's non-answer. she made her question a bit more specific, as you can see below.

Once again, the commander failed to answer. In response, Guthrie asked her question again and again. Here's the full exchange:

GUTHRIE (continuing directly): Did you test the day of the debate?

TRUMP: I don’t know, I don’t even remember. I test all the time. But I can tell you this, after the debate, I guess a day or so, I think it was Thursday evening, maybe even late Thursday evening, I tested positive. That’s when I first found out about it.

GUTHRIE: Well back to the debate, because the debate commission’s rules—it was the honor system—would be that you would come with a negative test. You say you don’t know if you got a test on the day of the debate?

TRUMP: I had no problem. Again, the doctors do it. I don’t ask them. I test all the time. And they-

GUTHRIE: Did you take a test, though, on the day of the debate?

TRUMP: If you ask the doctor, they’ll give you a perfect answer. But they take a test and I leave and I go about my business.

GUTHRIE: So you— Did you take a test on the day of the debate, I guess is the bottom line?

TRUMP: I probably did, and I took a test the day before, and the day before, and I was always in great shape, and I was in great shape for the debate. And it was only after the debate, a period of time after the debate, that I said, “That’s interesting.” And they took a test and it tested positive.

GUTHRIE: Just to button it up, do you take a test every single day?

TRUMP: No. No, but I take a lot of tests.

GUTHRIE: Okay. And you don’t know if you took a test the day of the debate?

TRUMP: Possibly I did, possibly I didn’t. But you know the doctor has very accurate information, and it’s not only that doctor, it’s many doctors. The one thing, if you’re president, you have a lot of doctors you’re surrounded by. But I was in great shape for the debate. And sometime after the debate, I tested positive, then that’s when they decided to, let’s go.

GUTHRIE: Okay, good. I hopefully provided some clarity for folks. Let’s talk about the event that was held at the White House on the Saturday before you tested positive...

Was Donald Trump tested before the debate? On the day of the debate?

In standard journalistic fashion, the testing protocols to which the two campaigns apparently agreed have never been made fully clear. As recently as this Wednesday, Mika was still saying, on Morning Joe, that Trump arrived at the debate too late to be tested.

Rather plainly, it seems that that had never been the agreed-upon protocol. As we watched Mika continue to misstate this point, we wondered how many millions of dollars she gets paid each year.

It seems clear that the two campaigns had agreed to test the candidates themselves, "on the honor system." Was Trump ever given any such test? If so, did he test negative?

Given Trump's dedication to misdirection and misstatement, it would have taken a very long time to nail down a complete set of answers to such basic questions. 

That said, Guthrie did what very few of our upper-end journalists ever do. As Donald J. Trump kept failing to answer, she just kept repeating her question!

She asked her question again and again. In service to American history, let us list the ways:

GUTHRIE: When was your last negative test? When did you last remember having a negative test?

GUTHRIE: Did you test the day of the debate?

GUTHRIE: You say you don’t know if you got a test on the day of the debate?

GUTHRIE: Did you take a test, though, on the day of the debate?

GUTHRIE: So you— Did you take a test on the day of the debate?

GUTHRIE: You don’t know if you took a test the day of the debate?

She asked, and asked, and asked again. She never got an actual answer. But you almost never see a major mainstream American journalist conduct herself this way.

For our money, Guthrie's performance wasn't perfect. Most notably, she didn't ask Trump to guarantee that his doctors will provide this basic information—the information he says he can't remember.

We thought that was a glaring omission. But good lord! Grading on the mainstream press curve, we'd give Guthrie whatever grade comes above A-plus.

As the hour proceeded, Guthrie wasn't always this persistent. She let several matters slide. 

In fairness, Trump emits misstatements at a truly remarkable clip. For that reason, it would be very hard to follow up on every such item within a one-hour format. 

The key point here cuts in Guthrie's favor. In that early exchange with Trump, she engaged in a type of journalism our journalists almost always avoid.

Originally, we had planned to spend this week discussing the things which happen when professors and press interact. When we spent several days watching the Barrett hearings, we were largely knocked off course.

We'd planned to revisit the absence of the logicians—the failure of our nation's professors of logic to intervene in our endlessly bollixed public discussions. 

(As with the moral philosophers who spend their time exploring "Kant's attempts to ground fundamental normative conclusions in his account of agency," our logicians tend to spend the bulk of their time off in La-La Land. As with Bergman's absent God, they're defined by their silence—by their apparent indifference to what happens here on Earth.)

We'd planned to mention how badly we tend to be served by the progressive professors who do decide to pipe up. 

(Are we still supposed to believe Tara Reade, the way Professor Manne instructed? Will these hapless progressive professors ever stop asserting belief in cases where they have zero idea who is telling the truth? Duke lacrosse? UVa? Do they ever quit?)

We'd planned to mention the history professors who offered accurate criticisms of the New York Times' 1619 Project. In the wake of reports like this, we expect to explore that fascinating topic next week.

We'd planned to mention the former professor, Robin D'Angelo, whose work is so clownishly bad that it almost gives Donald J. Trump a chance to be almost right. With respect to our mammoth, unexplained health care spending, we'd planned to wander the fields in search of economists or professors of public health.

Many things happen when professors and press interact, or when professors hold back. In all these areas, the most striking example remains the way the upper-end press corps refused to speak with the medical experts.

Is Donald J. Trump psychiatrically or cognitively impaired? In January 2018, the press corps agreed not to ask. 

Instead, they've continued to be "shocked, shocked" by his endless disordered behavior.

They've agreed to be mystified by the ways the commander behaves. For better or worse, Yale psychiatrist Bandy X. Lee and her colleagues were disappeared.

The woods are lovely, dark and deep. In one of human history's oldest stories, our failing nation has descended into a vast tribal breakdown.

Our press corps has frequently driven this mess. As the nation has slid toward the sea, our professors have largely stayed silent.

By the clock: By the clock, Guthrie's exchange with Trump took one minute and fifty seconds. 

Guthrie's brisk questioning moved things along. We admire the skillful way she performed. The commander never answered.


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  2. "Trump hadn't answered the question. If this had happened at a White House press briefing, slumbering journalists would have rolled over and asked him about something else."

    No, this isn't how it happens at press briefings. If the president gives a non-answer and the reporter persists, Trump moves on to another journalist, or he walks away, ending the press conference, or he says something nasty about the reporter and then calls on one of his OANN stooges.

    In this Town Hall, there was only one moderator so Trump couldn't switch to another questioner. It was a voter-forum so he had to play nice (although he still managed to disparage Guthrie. He could walk away and end the Town Hall. She had him on the spot in ways that reporters normally do not.

    So it is unfair of Somerby to blame the press for the other occasions on which it is possible for Trump to evade uncomfortable questions.

    Because all of this is obvious, even to a child, I find myself wondering why Somerby is so intent upon disparaging the press, who generally do the best they can under difficult circumstances.

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  3. Oh dear. Does your cult's God The COVID command your zombie comrades to endlessly repeat this "when did you have a test?" comedy gig, dear Bob?

    The Commander gave your dembot a perfectly reasonable answer: "If you ask the doctor, they’ll give you a perfect answer. But they take a test and I leave and I go about my business."

    If you, dear Bob, and your liberal cult's comrades are commanded by your God The COVID to get to the bottom of it, why don't you ask the doctor, dear Bob? Surely, it's all has to be recorded in quacks' books somewhere.

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    1. Трахни свою сестру, тролль.

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    2. How's the Covid response going Trump faggot?

      Republican led Florida enters the top 10 States for deaths per/1 mil pop today faggot.

      But you were right all along. Masks and tests are unnecessary. It's a hoax. A liberal obsession. Faggot.

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    3. We love it when our dembots talk dirty. But more feeling, dear, please; more hysteria. We know you can do better, dear dembot.

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    4. Republican led Florida enters the top 10 States for deaths per/1 mil pop today.

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    5. Congratulations, dear dembot, we guess.

      Is this the dembot way of saying that the 9 states with highest mortality are zombie-controlled?

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    6. 4 out of the top 10 are Republican states. And it will soon be a majority Republican states in the top 10 deaths per/1 mil pop. I will be here to let you know that exact moment it happens.

      Have a nice day!

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    7. Half a million deaths coming in 4 months. Orange Man Good!!!!!!

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    8. Thank you, dear dembot.

      We wish you joy and happiness with what appear to be your psycho-obsession.

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    9. The problem is that so many formerly red states are flipping to blue that it is hard to know how to count them for covid purposes.

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    10. Трахни свою сестру, тролль.
      He probably does. I just hope that she is not underaged.

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    11. Thank you for your kind thoughts about my horrible obsession. It's humiliating!

      So, in sum:

      - Republican led Florida enters the top 10 States for deaths per/1 mil pop today.
      - Four Republican states are in the top 10 states with highest mortality from Covid.
      - Soon Republican states will make up a majority of top 10 states with highest mortality from Covid.(Good point, formerly Republican-led States)
      - There's no metric that shows Covid is a problem that can be blamed on Democratic governors.
      - America the great is one of three countries in the top ten deaths per/1 mil that is not a third world country.
      - You were wrong about masks.
      - You were wrong about tests.
      - You were wrong about Trump.
      - You were wrong about Democratic governors.
      - You seem to be chronically and habitually wrong about just about everything.

      Have a great weekend.


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    12. Why, thank you for your dembot talking points, dear dembot. They are charming.

      So, if, for the sake of argument, it was true that "four Republican states are in the top 10 states", would this be the Zombie translation of '6 out 10 states with highest mortality rates are zombie controlled'?

      Also, could you list the six states with highest mortality rates, please?

      Thanks in advance, dear dembot.

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    13. "would this be the Zombie translation of '6 out 10 states with highest mortality rates are zombie controlled'?"

      No.

      "could you list the six states with highest mortality rates, please?"

      No.

      I just wanted to say:
      - Republican led Florida enters the top 10 States for deaths per/1 mil pop today.
      - Four Republican states are in the top 10 states with highest mortality from Covid.
      - Soon Republican states will make up a majority of top 10 states with highest mortality from Covid.
      - There's no metric that shows Covid is a problem that can be blamed on Democratic governors.
      - You were wrong about masks.
      - You were wrong about tests.
      - You were wrong about Trump.
      - You were wrong about Democratic governors.
      - You seem to be chronically and habitually wrong about just about everything!!

      Have a great weekend.

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    14. Republican states represent a third of the top 3 states with highest mortality from Covid.

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    15. Dear dembot, your copy-pasting bullshit talking points, all it does is confirm that you're a bot, and nothing else.

      But we must admit: your insisting that the Witch Trials state aka Maskachsetts is not a zombie-controlled state, that's a brilliant innovation in zombie dembottery. Thanks for the laughs, dear.

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    16. Republican governor. Yes, I am a bot ... with psycho obsessions. You're making tons of sense there from your little village in Latvia weakling. You have never measured up. You have never done anything good. You have never had any power. You have never had Daddy's approval and you never will. And your substitute Daddy is about to get smacked back down to the minor leagues. Next time maybe pick a competent Daddy substitute to represent you Daddy issues, weakling Euro fuck. Have a nice day out there in Shithole-land.

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  4. It's standard operating procedure at all politician press conferences for the interviewee to decline to answer some questions by talking around the question. Biden does it, too, and quite skillfully.

    Note how unimportant the question was. The President is dealing with issues of enormous import, such as
    -- peace in the middle east,
    -- the rapid spread of covid 19 in this country and worldwide,
    -- the continuing efforts of China to build its strength via spying, military building, acquisition of vital resources in various countries
    -- racism and racial disharmony in this country
    -- rising murder rate in many cities

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    1. It is certainly important, especially to Democrats, if Trump deliberately tried to infect Biden at the debate by knowingly participating without a negative test.

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    2. We are reasonably certain that even The Commander Himself may not be capable of infecting a mummy, especially from the 4-yard distance, dear dembot.

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    3. He endangered others at the debate just like he endangered the entire country with his clowning, willful neglect, and negligence. 223k (and rising) cases of negligent manslaughter should be filed.

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    4. The President is NOT dealing with issues of enormous import, such as
      -- peace in the middle east,
      -- the rapid spread of covid 19 in this country and worldwide,
      -- the continuing efforts of China to build its strength via spying, military building, acquisition of vital resources in various countries
      -- racism and racial disharmony in this country
      -- rising murder rate in many cities


      Fixed it for you! The orange balloon is not doing anything other than running around unmasked, flouting regulations and campaigning. That's just a statement of fact.

      That's what he's been doing for the past four years. What utter bullshit.

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    5. "The President is dealing with the rapid spread of covid 19 in this country and worldwide."

      No he isn't. He denied and then passed it off to the states months ago. Like hell is OrangeFace McSmallhands dealing with the rapid spread of covid 19.

      He does deal with it as it pertains to him being reelected if that's what you mean.

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    6. He managed to infect his own son, and he hardly spends any time, with any closeness, with him.

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    7. He managed to infect his own son, and he hardly spends any time, with any closeness, with him.
      I assume that it was Melania.

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    8. It bears repeating: the next good-faith argument David in Cal makes will be his first.

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    9. The turd that you worship spent just under three hundred days of his presidency before the COVID pandemic on the golf course or at one of his resorts. You do the math. He doesn’t like work. He is a mentally feeble old man who within the last year was subjected to a mental status test requiring him to identify the silhouettes of zoo animals. Your Jim
      Jones moment came and went a very long time ago and makes you, at this late date, ludicrous. The only compelling question for you at this point is how late after the election you will take down you lawn signs.

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    10. "The only compelling question for you at this point is how late after the election you will take down you lawn signs."
      Ouch! Next question: If Trump wins, will they ever come down?

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  5. "With respect to our mammoth, unexplained health care spending, we'd planned to wander the fields in search of economists or professors of public health."

    On the corporate mass media's coverage of healthcare. The fact that they make massive advertising revenue from grifter drug companies and parasitic insurance companies would be a good place to start the discussion. Corporations are never going to attack a major source of their revenue. But for some reason, Bob mostly likes to pretend he doesn't live in a capitalist run society.

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    1. If you are going to live in a capitalist society, you cannot just pick and choose the bits about capitalism that you like.

      Food is overpriced. Candy and toys are overpriced. Education is overpriced. Cars are overpriced. Housing is overpriced. Picking out one part of our economy and complaining that it is overpriced is ridiculous without considering the entire economic system.

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    2. God you're so fucking dumb. He was talking about economists and professors.

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    3. Oh, you certainly can and must. Every system is a mix. But we must break the near monopoly on political power that corporations have been amassing. Other largely capitalist nations have done so.

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  6. I mind you, Trump has "perfect memory", too! Never forgets anything, as we've been told.

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  13. I want to thank Dr Emu a very powerful spell caster who help me to bring my husband back to me, few month ago i have a serious problem with my husband, to the extend that he left the house, and he started dating another woman and he stayed with the woman, i tried all i can to bring him back, but all my effort was useless until the day my friend came to my house and i told her every thing that had happened between me and my husband, then she told me of a powerful spell caster who help her when she was in the same problem I then contact Dr Emu and told him every thing and he told me not to worry my self again that my husband will come back to me after he has cast a spell on him, i thought it was a joke, after he had finish casting the spell, he told me that he had just finish casting the spell, to my greatest surprise within 48 hours, my husband really came back begging me to forgive him, if you need his help you can contact him with via email: Emutemple@gmail.com or add him up on his whatsapp +2347012841542 is willing to help any body that need his help.

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  14. Hello everyone I want to let the whole world know how Dr Great has restored my broken relationship with Wayne. We have been together for 3 years and he told me that he doesn’t love me like he used to. Things have not been good for about 4 months and he ended this about 2 weeks ago. I was miserable and just don’t want to go on anymore. I did text him right after this but he didn’t even respond to me. One day I was searching for a way to get him back on the Internet when I saw a post of a lady testifying of how a love spell caster called Dr Great helped her to get back her Ex, I was so desperate to get mine back so I messaged him and explained my situation to him and he instructed me to do somethings which I did and 24 hours later my boyfriend Wayne came back kneeling and begging for my forgiveness and I forgive him and our relationship was back to normal again, if your Ex broke up with you or you have any problem then you problem has come to an end because Dr Great can solve all marriage and relationship problems. If you need his urgent help email him at 

    infinitylovespell@gmail.com OR infinitylovespell@yahoo.com 

    You can also call or add him on WhatsApp +2348118829899

    BLOG http://infinitylovespell1.blogspot.com

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  15. Email Dr Sambo for a real love spell: divinespellhome@gmail.com 
    contact him on his  whatsapp mobile line +2348145810121 You can also visit his website http://drsambo443.website2.me/
    Hello viewers, I living in South Africa , I am very happy to share this amazing testimony, I was hurt and heart broken when my husband left me with our two children, I was confused and didn't know what to do, I loved him so much, I tried all I could to bring him back but to no avail, on one faithfully day as I was coming from work I met a friend of mine whom I explain my problem to, and she told me of a spell caster called "Dr Sambo" whom also make her pregnant when she was looking for a child, I contacted the spell caster through the email she gave to me, and the spell caster told me what to do and I did exactly as I was told,  to my grates surprise, my husband who has not called me for a very long time, called me and start apologizing for all the wrongs he did to me, and now  he loved me more than ever before, brothers and sisters if you are passing through any kind problem contact him and i give you 100% guarantee that he will solve your problems. this is his contacts divinespellhome@gmail.com whatsapp mobile line +2348145810121

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  16. I want to share this wonderful testimony to the Good people all over the world on how I was able to Enlarge my Penis by Dr. Aziba. I was living a shameful life from my young age, just last month as I was browsing on the internet about Penis size  and Enlargement Products, I saw a testimony of a Man called Tim James testifying of how he was able to get his penis Enlarged by Dr. Aziba and I decided to also Email Dr. Aziba for my small penis size and he quickly respond to me and gave me the normal instructions which i did and then he shipped the product to me here in the united state which i received in just 3 working days and today i am very happy because i started seeing positive changes in my penis size in just 7 days of use.  Dr Aziba herbal product is the best recommended for you and to whom ever suffering from this shame or having any other diseases as well should Contact this great herbal doctor via his Email : Priestazibasolutioncenter@gmail.com and WhatsApp Him on +2348100368288

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