Appalling behavior at Cleveland debate!

TUESDAY, OCTOBER 6, 2020

Also, Paul Butler does it again: Commander in chief Donald J. Trump is surrounded by The Crazy.

He's surrounded by true belief. He's surrounded by fractured logic and by crazy dissembling.

Meanwhile, his family and his closest advisers refused to wear masks at last Tuesday evening's debate. Their conduct bordered on the obscene. For that reason, we think it's worth memorializing:

DAVIS ET AL (10/3/20): A little more than two days before she reported testing positive for the coronavirus, first lady Melania Trump—as well as the president’s sons, daughters and several guests—violated safety protocols at the first presidential debate by taking off their masks after being seated in a live studio audience in Cleveland.

Several in the president’s entourage continued without masks after an official from the Cleveland Clinic, which co-hosted the debate, offered them masks in case they didn’t have any, according to debate moderator Chris Wallace. “They waved them away,” Wallace said on Fox News on Friday morning.

It was a violation of rules that both campaigns agreed to, Frank Fahrenkopf, head of the Commission on Presidential Debates, said in an interview with The Washington Post.

Everyone had agreed to these rules. Upon arrival, the Trump camp declined to honor this agreement. 

As Davis continued, he described the refusal in more detail. We think his account is worth recording:

DAVIS ET AL: By the time Melania Trump entered, minutes before the debate began, all of the Trump guests had taken off their masks.

The Cleveland Clinic health safety official, wearing a white lab coat, soon approached the Trump group, according to Wallace.

The official “offered them masks in case they didn’t have them, and they were waved away,” Wallace, a Fox News anchor, said Friday morning in an interview on the network. “And people in the hall noticed.”

“That actually violated the rules of the Cleveland Clinic,” Wallace said.

Wallace’s account echoed that of NBC reporter Marianna Sotomayor, who tweeted: “I witnessed a Cleveland Clinic doctor remind Trump’s guests to wear a mask, even offering them surgical ones on the off chance they didn’t have one. None of them put on a mask. The doctor looked frustrated as she stepped away, prompting a staffer to say, ‘That’s all you can do.’ ”

This account of what occurred relies on observations by Wallace and Sotomayor. That said, we've seen no one dispute this account. 

We were especially struck by the description of the doctor's frustration, followed by the staffer's statement:

"That's all you can do."

Our society's ongoing disintegration has been producing a vast anthropology lesson. Again and again, we get to see what human beings, and human functioning, can be or are actually like.

We humans! At times of major tribal division, there's nothing so dumb that we may not believe it. There's nothing so inappropriate that we may not end up doing it. 

This sort of behavior isn't restricted to people in other tribes. In his latest column for the Washington Post, we'd have to say that Paul Butler has done it again. (More on that tomorrow.)

This incident at the Cleveland debate has an ancient feel. Within days of their remarkable conduct, several members of the Trump party had been diagnosed with the virus.

Other people had been put at risk—put at risk of painful death. Luckily, Barron Davis apparently hasn't been infected. Given the astounding behavior of his parents, it would seem that he's been spared solely due to chance.

After the commander was diagnosed, Dr. Sean Conley took center stage. To his credit, he has been amazingly unskilled at the task of dissembling about Trump's condition and about the history of Trump's diagnosis. 

This suggests the possibility that dissembling isn't Conley's constant habit. In fairness, we've also seen no real attempt to define the strictures of patient privacy by which Conley was bound.

Meanwhile, we'll take a wild guess. Everyone at Walter Reed was thrilled to see Trump go.

That incident at the Cleveland debate has a certain Old Testament feel. The behavior was vile beyond belief. Within a matter of days, some offenders were smote—struck down.


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  2. "He's surrounded by true belief. He's surrounded by fractured logic and by crazy dissembling."

    It doesn't help to be surrounded by craziness, but when your first priority and primary concern is your own self-interest, the thinking of others around you really doesn't matter. Trump doesn't care what (or how) others think.

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  3. "Barron Davis apparently hasn't been infected. Given the astounding behavior of his parents, it would seem that he's been spared solely due to chance."

    Somerby perhaps is referring to Barron Trump (Davis is a basketball player). He has no doubt been spared because his parents spend so little time with him. That seems pretty obvious to everyone.

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    1. After Somerby's AMT debacle, he is throwing caution to the wind.

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  4. "Meanwhile, his family and his closest advisers refused to wear masks at last Tuesday evening's debate."

    Ah, yes. So, now they will experience minor cold symptoms for a few days, and become immune to your God The COVID.

    Yes, how horrible, dear Bob. It's so much worse than following your brilliant zombie-logic: live in fear and hate everyone who doesn't.

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      Ah, yes. So, now they will experience minor cold symptoms . . . . " Or, like Herman Cain, and 208,000 other Americans, die.

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    2. And you will also die, dear dembot, despite wearing your hazmat suit 24X7.

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    3. Maybe Trump can come back and win in 2024.

      2020 - well, that's not going to be very pretty for Trump.

      Message to aspiring great leaders: You may not want to kill hundreds of thousands of your citizens when seeking reelection.

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    4. Dear dembot, may we ask: are you jerking off while typing your drivel, or is this just a job assignment for you?

      Please be honest; this is for our ongoing research, for a scientific study.

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    5. Trump has done nothing to stop the bleeding of American jobs and he has not ended endless imperial wars.

      He passed a huge tax cut for the only the rich.

      He failed at practically everything.

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    6. Mao's just now noticing everyone gives him the jerk-off sign when he speaks.

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  5. There is something about Trump and his supporters that makes it OK to break rules that others abide by. I have seen this any number of times with local Trump supporters. They don't follow rules and they think rules are for other people, not them.

    What do they do? They put up lawn signs despite restrictions against them by our community association. They discuss politics on community websites that are supposed to be politics-free zones. They think it is OK to wear Trump t-shirts and paraphernalia at polling sites and to talk to other voters about Trump at the polling place.

    And then there is the lawlessness at their rallies. They attack protesters and newspeople (egged on by Trump) and even people who they decide don't belong there. They deface the political signs of Democratic candidates in local elections. At our local BLM protests, they drove cars into the protesters, going past police barricades to do so (twice). They shout obscenities at protesters and push out anyone trying to watch the march on the sidewalk with them. They ignore word limits on letters to the editor. They block entrances to businesses when their table is set up outside the market. They faked signatures on a recall petition for our governor.

    These are not nice people. I don't believe this attitude is coming from the top down. I believe that people who wish to behave like this are attracted to a candidate who thumbs his nose at rule of law and traditions, norms and conventional behavior (as Trump did on Howard Stern's show before he became a candidate) because they wish to behave like he does, and because he gives them permission (license) to behave badly.

    These are people who want to smoke on the airplane and don't want to shut up at the movies, who want to park in the handicapped spot without a placard and don't want to pay their credit card bills on time. These are not nice people.

    Somerby wants to blame all of the rest of us for their misbehavior, but I don't think that is fair or right. Others do behave differently and are repelled by Trump and his behavior. We are not to blame for this phenomenon. And no, there isn't the same thing among the Democrats (although I did see that kind of behavior among the Bernie Bros, who are a subset of Bernie voters but accounted for a lot of the bad feeling following Bernie's campaigns).

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    1. So there is the same thing among the Democrats. Which is it, bitch?

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    2. Bernie Bros are not Democrats. They have been trying to take down the Democratic Party. You would know that if you were paying attention.

      Life must seem confusing to you, but that is no excuse to call people names.

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  6. Trump's incompetence has left hundreds of thousands of Americans dead.

    He has done nothing to stop the bleeding of American jobs and he has not ended endless imperial wars. He passed a huge tax cut for the only the rich. He's a total mess!

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  7. "The doctor looked frustrated as she stepped away, prompting a staffer to say, ‘That’s all you can do.’ ”

    Yup, that was it I, suppose, one of the topics of this short essay. That's why I like seeing the slogan on T-shirts and bumper stickers: Disobey

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  9. Democrats should leave any debate or conference where Trumpite thugs refuse to wear masks. The GOP is now ruled by a warped mentality similar to that of Jonestown. It's a cult of irrationality combined with the temperment of a rabid dog.

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    1. That will just make them look like pussys, which they are. Toooo bad that Senate rules rule the day.

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    2. Only someone already in the Trumptown cult of irrationality would think that way, and we don't care what they think. You don't lock yourself in a room with the violently insane or with a rabid dog.

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    3. "which they are."

      Dude. Kyle Rittenhouse is a Republican.

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