A culture change in the red tribe world!

MONDAY, MARCH 18, 2024

The New York Times gets it right: We were struck by a front-page report in this morning's New York Times.

The report discusses a culture shift we've been struck by at the Fox News Channel. The headlines on the Times report say this:

Piety and Profanity: The Raunchy Christians Are Here
In the Trump era, a surprising number of evangelicals are rejecting modesty and turning toward the risqué.

Has "family values" red tribe culture taken a major turn? After offering a few examples, Ruth Graham, a writer on religion, offers this thumbnail account:

GRAHAM (3/18/24): As a core faction in the Republican coalition, conservative evangelicals have long influenced the party’s policy priorities, including opposition to abortion and same-sex marriage. And the influence extended to conservative culture, where evangelical norms against vulgarity were rarely challenged in public.

In some ways, they remain intact. Most pastors don’t cuss from the pulpit, or at all. Mainstream conservative churches still teach their young people to save sex for marriage and avoid pornography.

Yet a raunchy, outsider, boobs-and-booze ethos has elbowed its way into the conservative power class, accelerated by the rise of Donald J. Trump, the declining influence of traditional religious institutions and a shifting media landscape increasingly dominated by the looser standards of online culture.

For decades, "family values" conservative culture stressed evangelical norms against vulgarity. As of now, that culture is being replaced in some conservative circles by "a raunchy, boobs-and-booze ethos," Graham reports.

As we've noted in recent months, one such conservative circle is the Fox News Channel, where primetime hosts Jesse Watters and Greg Gutfeld are best described as "a little bit nutty and substantially smutty." 

For the record, the "raunch" this pair of mossbacks provide is typically laced with throwback, misogyny-adjacent behavior.

We'll offer examples as the week proceeds, but we were struck by Graham's report due to our own observations. We've been amazed by the degree to which Fox has moved in the direction of the "raunch" and the misogyny which are now prevalent in much of its primetime culture.

Just within the past week, Spring Break "coverage" has been widespread on Fox, with a heavy emphasis on teen-aged women in bathing suits. Watters is skilled at finding ways to report—in smarmy and condescending ways—on young women who are no longer in their suits.

At least two of his subjects in recent weeks have plainly been mentally ill. There seems to be nowhere this haunted fellow won't go, with help from his hidden producers. 

To our eye, these fellows strongly exhibit smarmy, throwback gender values. By the way, was 47-year-old comedian and primetime weekend host Jimmy Failla totally sh*tfaced as he cavorted with those college coeds in that Spring Break footage this past Saturday night?

Graham says this change is happening within evangelical culture. We've been surprised to see its dominance all through the world of Fox News.

Within the past month, we've criticized the upper-end press for averting its gaze from this behavior at Fox. This morning, bowing to our will, the Times has started to describe what's happening out there in the real world.

24 comments:


  1. Jesse Watters and Greg Gutfeld are evangelicals?? What an amazing discovery.

    Seriously, though, aren't you, Bob, behaving just like your tribe's standard-issue moonbats you often criticize? Stereotyping the Others?

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    1. Mao is alive. Mao is dead. Long live Mao.

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  2. Most of forgotten that when porno hound Clarence Thomas lied (taking an oath with a hand on the Bible) his way on to the Supreme Court, the subject was he couldn't keep his mouth shut at work about his enthusiasm for hard core porn. His character seems to have gone downhill from there.

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  3. Trump is unable to post an appeal bond in his fraud case, though he did post one in his defamation case.

    https://www.nbcnews.com/news/amp/rcna143860

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  4. The increased raunchiness on the right is going to be used as an excuse to clamp down on recreational sex, by the right wing zealots and extremists.

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  5. Evangelicals have always struggled with "vice", it is primarily why they are evangelicals. Red states lead the nation in "vice" stats.

    Fox News has always covered spring break salaciously, going back decades.

    Evangelicals in the past supported abortion rights, it was only when Republicans discovered they could weaponize the abortion issue in the fight against desegregation that they flipped on abortion.

    Evangelicals are now casting a wary eye towards Jesus as increasingly theology is no longer shrouded in mystery; they now are starting to question whether Jesus' main theme of treating all people with dignity and humanity is a good idea, or maybe he was just a woke wuss.

    Jesus of course is a myth, there is no credible evidence that points to his historicity.

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  6. The "religion" of Evangelicals is bigotry. Just as it has always been.

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  7. There isn't a movement in America that actually wants to pay more for groceries, wars, let Amazon rip off their workers, and give massive tax breaks to the rich. The ruling class has to mimic that assertiveness that a mass movement has and they use sex to do it.

    Capitalists experience war profiteering and the stock market in a sexual way but it doesn't translate well to every day people's feelings, so they hire media gooners to do it for them.

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    1. You aren't making any sense.

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    2. It's called astroturfing. Making money look like it's a huge change of opinion. But it's really just media pushing narratives .

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    3. The sense of power people feel standing shoulder to shoulder is a powerful thing, and the small class of billionaires don't know people well enough to build that solidarity they need to pass their policies. So they get a bunch of repressed people angry and sexually frustrated and point their rage at a few scapegoats. It's just pure manipulation.

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    4. It is more about dominance than sex, but your point is well taken.

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  8. Is Bob saying his good friends and neighbors are sleazy?

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    1. Bob is not one to talk, especially when he interacts with young females; Bob, that attention is unwanted, cringey, and creepy.

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    2. 12:45 - This is just some ugly, ugly shit you're posting.

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    3. As a repeat recipient of such behavior, you are correct, Bob's behavior is ugly shit.

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    4. Do I understand you as saying that you’re a young woman who was personally and repeatedly the recipient of unwanted, cringey, and creepy attention from Somerby?

      Tell us what happened, when, and where.

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  9. Dorie Ladner died last week.

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  10. Spot. On. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8SUjPSODLZg

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  11. Will Somerby mention O’Donnell’s discussion of the auto industry hoohah that Trump vomited forth? It happened tonight. Somerby wrong in record time.

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    1. Like TFG, Somerby can't be wrong, he can only be wronged.

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  12. These are people who no longer even pretend to have morals and ethics.

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