CULTURES: On Fox, viewers are given the status of friends!

MONDAY, MARCH 4, 2024

At MSNBC, we viewers are now "beloved:" Last Friday, Ainsley Earhardt was helping tease the 7 o'clock hour of the long-running morning program, Fox & Friends.

Earhardt's co-hosts had started the tease. At 7:02, she ended the tease with this:

EARHARDT (3/1/24): The second hour of Fox & Friends starts right now, and remember:

Mornings are better with friends!

"Mornings are better with friends?"

We've heard the slogan several times in the past few weeks. Is it a long-standing branding / marketing message? We have no idea.

As we've noted in the past, Fox & Friends is one of the longest-running programs on the red tribe's Fox News Channel. The program premiered on February 1, 1998. The two principal male co-hosts—Steve Doocy and Brian Kilmeade—have remained in place to this day.

The idea that you're starting the day with friends is presumably offered as part of the program's appeal. It's an especially friendly branding message in an era in which our American nation, such as it was, has split into two rival nations—Red America and Blue.

Mornings are better with friends? For many viewers, the message may be reassuring.

If you're starting the day with friends, you as a viewer know that you will never be confronted with material that challenges you—material you may dislike. You'll hear one set of facts, frameworks and viewpoints—full stop. 

Every guest on the friendly program will reinforce your pre-existing point of view!

Presumably, your friends will always service your needs and your tribal desires. So it goes as red tribe viewers are told that they'll be happier if they start the day with friends.

This implicit reassurance is a long-standing part of red tribe culture. That said, let's recall a bit of advice we blue tribe viewers received as we watched The Rachel Maddow Show on Monday evening, February 5.

Midway through the hour, Maddow began calling her viewers' attention to an upcoming event. Directly out of a commercial break, she began her new segment with a somewhat unusual suggestion:

MADDOW (2/5/28): So if you can change your schedule around this week—your school schedule, your work schedule or childcare, whatever you need to do—if you can make time for it on Thursday morning, this week, you will have the opportunity to hear American history being made, live and in real time.

That Thursday morning, at 10 a.m. Eastern, the Supreme Court was going to hear oral arguments in the Colorado ballot case. This was the case that would decide whether "states can keep Donald Trump off the ballot under the provisions of the 14th amendment of the U.S. Constitution," Maddow correctly said.

The case would be argued that Thursday morning. Maddow was suggesting that viewers might want to change their schedule around so they could listen to the oral arguments, which were going to be broadcast live—audio only—on MSNBC.

A ten-minute segment followed. As she continued, Maddow listed the three main questions the Court would likely be exploring, then she offered this:

MADDOW: Anything can happen. The whole country is going to be listening in Thursday morning. Luckily for us, people who are experts at these things can help us understand what we should be listening for.

"The whole country is going to be listening?" Excitement about the hearing was running high on this cable news channel.

To our ear, it seemed a bit odd when this major media figure suggested that viewers should rearrange their school, work or childcare arrangements so they could listen on Thursday morning as American history was being made. 

By now, it wasn't entirely clear that any major history actually would be made. Also, Supreme Court hearings are famously hard to follow, especially so since videotape isn't allowed.

To our ear, Maddow's suggestions seemed a bit overheated—but, on balance, so what? Then, at the end of her hour, Maddow returned to the topic as she threw to Lawrence O'Donnell. 

She started by saying this:

MADDOW: Just a little note for your calendar before we go. 

This Thursday, 10 a.m. Eastern, the Supreme Court is going to livestream the oral arguments on whether Donald Trump is disqualified from holding federal office in the United States. Here at MSNBC, we will have that audio live and in full...

Then Thursday night, starting at 8 p.m. Eastern, I'll be here with all my beloved colleagues. We will have a primetime recap of those oral arguments. I'll see you then.

That does it for us tonight. Now it's time for The Last Word with the great Lawrence O'Donnell.

There followed a discussion with the great O'Donnell. During that throw, Maddow reported that she had just readjusted her own Thursday morning schedule—that she'd done so rather frantically.

She had done so "in a panic," she told O'Donnell—later, she called it "a moral panic"—so that she would be able to listen to the livestream that Thursday morning.

Had Maddow really been in "a moral panic" as she adjusted her schedule? We would assume that the answer is no—that Maddow was simply telling us, as she is inclined to do, that her all-around state of being is more dramatic than ours.

That said, we were most struck by the reference to the people with whom she would recap the events on Thursday night:

Those people are her "beloved" colleagues? We didn't think we'd ever heard that characterization before.

Let's be clear! Presumably as a branding and marketing mechanism, hosts of MSNBC programs have long since begun describing their colleagues and guests as "friends."  Before too long, the inevitable embellishment began creeping into the messaging, with colleagues being described as "dear friends," even as "dear, dear friends."

So it has gone as "cable news" channels convince their viewers that they will be safe within a network of friends if they watch the channel in question. Now, those "dear, dear friends" had been bumped up another notch, attaining the peculiar status of being "beloved."

For us, the oddness of this presentation lingered when Maddow appeared with her colleagues on that  Thursday evening broadcast. 

In truth, the oral arguments hadn't seemed to proceed in the way our blue tribe had hoped. But as Maddow called the roll of the colleagues who would be part of the evening's two-hour broadcast, she referred to them as her "beloved colleagues" again.

We were struck by the hint of desperation involved in this marketing device. She then brought the analysts right out of their beanbag chairs when she offered this:

MADDOW (2/8/24): In the 1970s, Watergate hearings were also broadcast live during the workday. Recognizing how consequential, how important those hearings were, news networks during that time started recapping each day's Watregate hearings at night, on TV, in prime time, so no one would miss out on that incredibly important history in the making.

We then did the same during the daytime hearings of the January 6 investigation in Congress in 2022. We know from what we heard from you, our beloved viewers, that that was valuable, that was a useful thing. 

And so here we are, together again, tonight, with basically the same approach.

The analysts came right out of their chairs! Quickly, let's summarize:

By now, it seemed likely that no incredibly important history in the manner of Watergate was going to emerge from Monday's oral arguments. (We may find out today.)

Still and all, Maddow showered MSNBC with praise, comparing its recaps of the January 6 hearings to what had happened during that famous era.

As Maddow offered this introduction, she referred to the people sitting around her as "beloved colleagues" once again. But she brought the analysts right off their futon mats with that reference to us out here in TV land:

We were now the "beloved viewers" of our blue tribe's channel! We were the beloved viewers she and her beloved colleagues were working so hard to serve!

Over on the Fox News Channel, red tribe viewers have merely been told that they've attained the status of friends. On our own blue tribe channel, we've been bumped up to "beloved!"

To our ear, this was very strange journalistic behavior by a very major media figure. Maddow's formulations struck us as very strange. As always, your assessments may differ.

Our assessment? As in The Iliad, so too here:

As we've split into two separate nations, the cultures of our red and blue nations have sometimes grown quite different. Sometimes, though, those failing cultures are startlingly the same.

Tomorrow: The wages of "segregation"


82 comments:


  1. "Over on the Fox News Channel, red tribe viewers have merely been told that they've attained the status of friends. On our own blue tribe channel, we've been bumped up to "beloved!""

    In other words: blueanons are bigger morons than qanons? Thanks, but that was obvious since forevah.

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  2. "Mornings are better with friends? For many viewers, the message may be reassuring."

    Somerby has complained about the way media folks treat each other and the audience as friends. Yes, it is a pose, since the media doesn't know any of us individually, but why is Somerby so resistant to the idea that most people have, want and need friends?

    Somerby suggests it is because we are so polarized, but I suspect it is more likely because many of us were locked down and separated from friends, loved ones and family during covid. It may also arise from the fact that media are by nature cold and impersonal, so shows are attempting to warm it up a bit.

    But these sorts of shows are nothing new. There have been morning shows since radio was invented. Hoody Doody and Buffalo Bob spoke directly into the camera to kids as if he were there in the room with them. Arguably, spending time with TV friends is next best to spending time with people. Why would Somerby wish to deprive people of that enjoyment, or think that it is nefarious? Yes, it serves the self-interest of the media itself, but so does everything done on such shows.

    I see little harm in the pretense and some potential good, especially for people who don't get out much to mingle with actual people, or are relatively forgotten by others and shut in their homes. So this strikes me as an unnecessary curmudgeonly reaction to something harmless bordering on beneficial.

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    1. anon 10:38, was Hoody Doody Howdy's brother who took the wrong path, and became a gangster? But seriously, some might think that our citizens shouldn't be mollycoddled into only hearing things that make them feel "safe"; they should be exposed to contrarian views and intelligent discussion of controversial issues, They're not little children are they? This goes for reds and blues.

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    2. The two Somerby trolls try so hard to come up with something negative to say, that they occasionally produce some unintentional hilarity. Hence, today we have political journalistic shows compared to Hoody (lol) Doody and Buffalo Bob. I mean, it's beyond parody at this point.

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    3. Obviously a typo, but I guess you are easily amused.

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    4. It is impossible for these cable news hosts to make everyone feel safe because their viewers do not all believe the same things. This is a crackpot idea of Somerby's that starts with an incorrect assumption about what liberals believe.

      Because most liberals (unlike conservatives) read a variety of sources, we are obviously not seeking safety but information. Please take your mollycoddling somewhere else. Those watching Fox are seeking validation of their beliefs. That can be seen in the reaction when Fox briefly promoted covid vaccine and when Fox told them the election steal was disinformation. There is nothing comparable on the left.

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  3. Nikki Haley won the GOP primary in the District of Columbia. She’s unstoppable now.

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    1. Trump is saying that he let her win because it wasn't worth the effort to campaign in DC. Sounds like sour grapes to me.

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    2. She has him where she wants him now.

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    3. Trump is self-destructing. Nikki Haley just has to be there when it all falls apart for Trump.

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  4. "If you're starting the day with friends, you as a viewer know that you will never be confronted with material that challenges you—material you may dislike. You'll hear one set of facts, frameworks and viewpoints—full stop."

    Here is where Somerby makes an unjustified logical leap into fantasy. Who says friends never confront you with "material" that challenges you, never say things you may dislike, present only one set of facts, frameworks and viewpoints? My friends are not like that. Unless they were clones, why would anyone's friends be like that? Just yesterday, my daughter said something political that I disagree with and don't particularly like, but that happens frequently with friends, acquaintances, neighbors, relatives, random people in places one visits. It is because people are not all the same and have their own ideas and opinions.

    It doesn't happen when I watch TV shows either, the way Somerby says he sees only homogeneity of thought on MSNBC and "blue tribe media." It is a ridiculous idea and not supported by any actual TV watching evidence.

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  5. "By now, it wasn't entirely clear that any major history actually would be made. "

    It was history being made that such arguments even took place. No president has been struck from the ballot for engaging in an insurrection before. That is historical. How major one thinks this is, depends on one's interest in and grasp of history. Somerby doesn't seem to care much about history -- he doesn't seem to have watched the 1/6 Hearings either. I rearranged my schedule to do so.

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  6. From Kevin:

    https://jabberwocking.com/bridge-to-portland-is-an-antifa-superhighway/

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  7. "Those people are her "beloved" colleagues? We didn't think we'd ever heard that characterization before."

    Somerby today calls Maddow "overheated." He calls out her reference to "beloved" colleagues. Trump refers to things as "beautiful" all the time. He uses that word to refer to things that people don't usually call beautiful at all, often using the word "perfect" along with it. It is an odd reference but nobody objects, mocks it, or even cares when he moons over a rally or a letter or a phone call. Overheated is Trump's normal setting. And I've never heard Somerby say anything at all about it, although it is clearly abnormal over-the-top, hyperbolic speech.

    Somerby accepts such behavior from some people but not from Maddow. For Maddow, he makes an exception and criticizes her exuberance and dramatic language. Other people who watch Maddow consider that part of her on-screen persona and like her for it. But it makes Somerby grind his teeth. That may be Somerby's problem, not Maddow's.

    Is it news reporting when she states her attitude toward her colleagues, such that Maddow must be strictly factual and accurate in describing her relationship with them? Of course not. It is no different than when someone introducting a speaker calls them "esteemed" or "delightful" (for an entertainer) or "world-reknowned". It goes with the territory. But Somerby singles Maddow out for being cordial. Today's essay is beyond grumpy, even for Somerby, but it does illustrate his dislike for a gay woman who is better educated and better at doing the job that Somerby perhaps coveted in his heart-of-hearts. Either that, or Somerby just doesn't like gay people, because Maddow has done nothing to earn this kind of dislike from Somerby.

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    1. Anonymouse 10:59am, Somerby doesn’t like that sort of gladhanding from Nicole Wallace either.

      Men don’t usually engage in anything beyond “my friend” in a professional setting,

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    2. "Men don’t usually engage in anything beyond “my friend” in a professional setting,"

      You would know.

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    3. People in Hollywood are always being effusive toward each other. Look at Zsa Zsa who called everyone "Dahling". It does seem to be a cultural difference but why is Somerby going out of his way to be intolerant of it? Does he want more formality? I am unclear about how he thinks people should be behaving, except that of course he wants Rachel off the air.

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    4. Anonymouse 11:40pm, true dat, little lady.

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    5. Zsa Zsa's best:
      "A man is never complete, until he's married. Then he's finished."

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  8. Robert M Young has died.

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    1. So has the dream that the Courts will keep trump off the ballot

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  9. "Still and all, Maddow showered MSNBC with praise, comparing its recaps of the January 6 hearings to what had happened during that famous era."

    Somerby's imaginary analysts came out of their chairs, presumably because they too thought this was overreach, but the 1/6 Hearings focused on Trump's involvement in that insurrection, and that IS arguably a worse offense than Nixon's illegal acts. Trump has yet to be tried for his crimes, but that is in the works. He has been charged and is awaiting trial for it. Somerby didn't like the 1/6 Hearings but they do deserve to be called bigger than Watergate and it is to MSNBC's credit that they broadcast them.

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  10. I have to wonder why Somerby is making such a fuss over the broadcast of the Supreme Court oral arguments. It is what C-Span does too, and what is the harm? And yes, they were broadcast because they are important to our nation, so what is the big deal? Somerby doesn't really say why he is concerned about this.

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  11. Kipling's Just-So Stories begin: "Dearly Beloved, ...". Is Somerby upset because Maddow is using a literary affectation? He can't suppose she means the phrase literally, but he is pretending that is so, in order to say negative things about her.

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    1. Lol. Our two resident Somerby-hating trolls are stretching and straining harder than ever. Careful you two, you're gonna split your drawers with all that stretching.

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  12. "As we've split into two separate nations, the cultures of our red and blue nations have sometimes grown quite different. Sometimes, though, those failing cultures are startlingly the same."

    First Somerby tells us that Fox says "friends" while Rachel says "beloved". That isn't the same to me. Then he says that "those failing cultures are startlingly the same." Are friends and beloveds the same? Not in my neighborhood.

    But what if all media recognize the value of befriending their audiences and this all stems from modern media expertise, having nothing whatsoever to do with politics? Aren't people in commercials also uber friendly. Even Matthew McConaughey speaks in a friendly yet moody way when selling cars, presumably to red and blue buyers alike.

    Somerby today displays a porcupine persona as he pushes away on-screen overtures, crying leave me alone in my solitude. And that is sad. Does he do it with people too and is that why his analysts are imaginary and he spends his time immersed in ancient Trojan soap opera? Is this a cry for help? Can someone who knows Somerby call for a welfare check? This may be taking hermit behavior too far.

    Don't call your dog sweetie or Somerby may call you a victim of too much friendliness on TV. And who is to say they are insincere? After all, the media need us viewers to survive.

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    1. Servers in restaurants call me sweetie all the time. Is that wrong?

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    2. Anonymouse 11:17am, for someone who can’t tolerate an ounce of basic cordiality toward political contrarians (especially if it comes from Bob ), you sure are running on thin material today.

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    3. Anonymouse 11:18am, no, darlin’.

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    4. You mistake me. I am all for cordiality on TV. It is Somerby who is shouting at clouds today. He seems to be arguing for less warmth between people on TV and their audiences. Why make the world a colder place?

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    5. Anonymouse 11:38am, I get that you’re all for made-for-television-hosts affectations and for hostility for everyone who disagrees with you,

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    6. Who is being hostile today? You.

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    7. Anonymouse 11:50am, it’s not hostility to point out your inconsistencies, honey bear.

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    8. You called me hostile.

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    9. Anonymouse 12:21pm, you are. You don’t even tolerate the suggestion that parties should moderate their rhetoric in an attempt to peel off marginalized voters.

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    10. Nobody said that.

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    11. Cecelia,
      I, on the other hand, will point out your consistency. You know, how you call people names, like a bully, then feign being hurt when you get treated in kind.

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    12. Anonymouse 2:02pm, I might feign hurt feelings at gun point. Otherwise, no, ma’am.

      Anonymices excoriate Bob as capitulating to evil at the instruction of Putin when he writes a post about toning down the rhetoric so as to appeal to more independents and voters who are marginally conservative.

      Who are you kidding?

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    13. Yes, please tone down the rhetoric and ramp up the discussions of Trump’s mental illness with carefully selected psychiatrists, please quit talking about Trump’s criminal charges, etc

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    14. That isn't what Somerby writes here.

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    15. He’s written it a thousand times before.

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    16. I don't excoriate Somerby, but I think a media critic ought to be pointing out how our media doesn't call Donald Trump "a rapist" when they mention his name.

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  13. It is reassuring to know that nothing has changed. Somerby still hates Rachel Maddow.

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  14. https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/education/2023/03/13/trump-vows-more-school-choice-parental-rights-less-crt-trans-insanity/11465592002/

    There is some interesting stuff in Trump's plan for schools. For example, he will deny federal education funding to any schools teaching CRT or admitting transgender children.

    But Trump appears to have radically changed his position on mandated school vaccines:

    "former lawmaker raised alarms after former President Donald Trump's vow in Virginia to defund public schools that require vaccines.

    Trump, who has repeatedly vowed not to "give one penny to any school that has a vaccine mandate," repeated his call during an appearance in Richmond on Saturday, according to former Rep. Barbara Comstock, R-Va.

    "Trump said in Richmond, that he will take all federal funds away from public schools that require vaccines," she tweeted. "Like most states, Virginia requires MMR vaccine, chickenpox vaccine, polio, etc. So Trump would take millions in federal funds away from all Virginia public schools."

    Baylor University professor Dr. Peter Hotez, wrote, "Hoping he doesn’t really mean it, since it would create a public health catastrophe for the nation…"

    https://www.salon.com/2024/03/04/truly-dystopian-experts-worry-school-vaccine-plan-will-spark-public-health-catastrophe/

    Trump once luke warmly supported covid vaccines and did not challenge vaccines for other diseases, so this is a new stance for him, a more extreme position. Is this perhaps another sign of his cognitive deterioration?

    Who, in their right mind, would deny schools funding for requiring kids to have the preventative polio vaccine? After our nation's experience back with there was no way to prevent polio except to keep children inside all summer when the virus was most communicable!

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    1. Trump 2024: Make Polio Great Again

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    2. The damage he'll cause if he wins.... God help us

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  15. You’re so close! Here’s a clue - Why, exactly, would a news program use “a literary affectation”?

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    1. Somerby is the one who doesn't seem to know that.

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    2. Affection or affectation? Quite a difference.

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    3. Another clue: Can you imagine Walter Cronkite or MacNeil-Lehrer using such literary affectations?

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    4. Got to admit, I'm confused. And maybe my Monday brain is not up to the task...

      Are you conflating using a term of affection with affectation? Maybe to make a clever point about how it's a pretense?

      Can you differentiate why we are labeling it a "literary affectation?"

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    5. Dearly Beloved is like saying Dear Joe at the start of a letter. It is a communication formalism. It is archaic so someone using it now is doing so as an affectation.

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    6. Cronkite was a news presenter, like David Muir today. The shows on MSNBC and Fox feature the opinions and interpretations of the presenters. They aren’t strictly reading out the events of the day.

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    7. Rationalist - I'm calling it an "affectation" because that was the term used by 11:09 way, way above. But I think a news host using a term of affection for guests and audience is indeed an affectation.

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    8. Cronkite, his last day:

      “For almost two decades we’ve been meeting like this in the evenings, and I’ll miss that.”

      “A great broadcaster and gentleman, Doug Edwards, preceded me in this job.”

      https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=G5tdqojA26E

      Why is Cronkite some gold standard?

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  16. "CULTURES: On Fox, viewers are given the status of friends!"

    A friend is someone who will loan you money without asking what you need it for.

    No one on the right or left is deluded enough to think any TV celebrity host or network is going to do that.

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    1. No kidding. They don't even want to pay their taxes.

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  17. "As in The Iliad, so too here:

    As we've split into two separate nations,"

    The main difference in the Iliad is that they began as two distinct peoples, one Greek and the other Trojan. Not nations and not different peoples but different city states because there were not any nations in that time period. But they did have different identities.

    In our country, we are parts of a single nation, one identity shared with people who may differ culturally. The left argues for tolerance of differences in order to maintain our unity. The right argues against difference, assigning superiority to their own culture and resisting contamination by those who are different, and they toy with another secession and eschew national unity, preferring to see the left and the government both as enemies of their culture. These are not the same states of mind, clearly. Somerby ignores that and tries desperately to portray the right and left and the same in our separation. That isn't the case.

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    1. "not different peoples" should be "not different races"

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  18. There’s no substitute for Biden:

    https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2024/03/case-biden/677591/

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  19. Even though I disagree with my sweet darling Cecelia, I love her dearly.

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  20. Anonymouse 12:27pm, back at you, beloved friend and blogboard colleague.

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  21. It's certainly thin gruel from Somerby today.

    He's trying to make a larger point of how everyone is in two distinct camps and has affection for those within their camp, and the stronger that affection is, it is representative of the bias of each camp. The idea that friends don't challenge you is supposed to represent how your world view is supported by the fellow members of your camp.

    Besides the problem with making the focus of complaint the terms used to address each other, that's not even a great analogy. Because real-life friends often do challenge you - tough love, motivating you to improve your life or lifestyle, etc.

    Anyway. Thin gruel.

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    1. Maddow is always performative.

      With Wallace it comes off as being a form of duress. It’s a message that this is “el familia” so stay true to me and stay on script if you want to keep this guest gig.

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    2. Of course she’s performative, she’s a performer.

      I think you are reading too much into these people.

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    3. “El familia”? What language are you trying to mangle?

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    4. En familia they mean.

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    5. https://www.dictionary.com/e/translations/la-familia/

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    6. El" is a form of "el", a definite article which is often translated as "the". "Familia" is a noun which is often translated as "family". Learn more about the difference between "el" and "familia" below.

      https://www.spanishdict.com/compare/el/familia#:~:text=el%20vs%20familia-,el,often%20translated%20as%20"family".

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    7. Shouldn't it be "la familia" otherwise it's mixed tense?

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    8. All nouns in Spanish are either masculine or feminine. Familia is feminine, thus it is “la familia.” “El” is used for masculine nouns (el gato, for example)

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    9. Yeah that's why I asked. Not sure if the mixed tense was intended and supposed to signify something.

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    10. Anonymouse 1:40pm, I don’t read anything other than Maddow wants to be loved like a little girl and Wallace wants to be sure that all the windows are gleaming and the front steps swept.

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    11. Please perform more mind-reading Cecelia.

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    12. En familia means in family in Spanish.

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    13. My dear friend Cecelia is exasperating when she doesn’t admit error.

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  22. The Supreme Court has ruled Trump can stay on the ballot in Colorado.

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    1. But not that he is innocent of treason.

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    2. States have no power under the Constitution to enforce Section 3 with respect to federal offices.

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    3. A republic for thee, but not for me.

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    4. "Because fuck you, what are you going to do about it?" was the reasoning the Roberts Court used to back this judicial ruling.

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    5. Find Out Why James Carville Calls Them SCROTUS

      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V4TmHTibq-k

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