BREAKING: Everyone's going to write the same column!

WEDNESDAY, JUNE 6, 2018

Bruni already has:
Frank Bruni wrote a column today which everyone's going to write.

They're going to write it because it's there. Also, because they're never happier than than they are when They All Say The Same Thing.

They love the chance to All Say The Same Thing. They'll all be saying it now.

Bruni's column repeats the instant script about Bill Clinton's interview with NBC's Craig Melvin. In the part of the sliced-and-diced interview which NBC actually aired, Melvin asked Clinton, roughly six times, if he has apologized, or thinks he should have apologized, to Monica Lewinsky.

Melvin asked again and again. He's a man of deep moral beliefs:
MELVIN (6/4/18): Did you ever apologize to her?

MELVIN: I asked if you'd ever apologized, and you said you had.

MELVIN: You've apologized to her?

MELVIN: But you didn't apologize to her.

MELVIN: Do you feel that you owe her an apology?

MELVIN: And you don't think a private apology is owed?
Melvin is one of the world's leading theorists on the role of the apology in deeply failed relationships. He always knows what everyone else should have said to whoever.

That said, it didn't seem to occur to him to ask Clinton why he didn't send "conciliatory flowers." That leading example of sheer inanity was left for Don Lemon's show.

Bruni wrote his column today because everyone's going to write it. We'll call attention to the highlighted claim:
BRUNI (6/6/18): [Clinton] grows visibly annoyed when journalists are so petty as to bring up the past and the pesky fact that he’s one of only two American presidents ever impeached. He raged when Craig Melvin of NBC News breached this territory. And he promptly turned into Trump.
Go ahead—take a look. Did Clinton "rage" during the interview? Everyone's going to say that he did, ratcheting language to top one another. But is that what you really see? Or is that just their usual bullshit?

Did Clinton "rage" when Melvin kept asking his questions? We'll suggest that you watch the sliced-and-diced interview to evaluate that for yourself.

Everyone is going to say that Clinton "raged" at Melvin. They're going to say it because they're children, and they've always said such things.

Back in the post-impeachment days, Bruni was the Times reporter who kissed the ascot of Candidate Bush, even as Katharine Seelye was punishing Candidate Gore for two years as payback for Clinton's affair. This is the way the children have acted over the past many years.

Seelye was worse than Bruni was. He crowded the line in one direction, she went way over the line in her endless assaults on Gore. But they leaned on the scales in opposite ways, helping send Bush to the White House.

Bruni has become a perfectly decent columnist. In today's piece, he reverts.

We may have further thoughts about the journalistic affair now called Melvingate. But for today, we'll leave you with something The Daily Beast's Matt Wilstein has said.

As we said just the other day, Wilstein is perhaps our favorite journalist. Late last night, he wrote about Clinton's appearance with Stephen Colbert.

Colbert asked Clinton about Melvingate. This early statement by Wilstein brought us right out of our chairs:
WILSTEIN (6/5/18): Clinton, who was seated next to James Patterson, the co-author of their new novel The President Is Missing, began by blaming the way his interview with NBC’s Craig Melvin was edited. “They had to distill it, and it looked like I was saying I didn’t apologize and had no intention to,” he said.
Clinton didn't use the word "edited," but that seemed to be pretty much what he meant. And make no mistake—the editing of that interview remains a thing to behold.

We think the Today Show should release the tape of the full frogmarch so people can see how "TV news" sausage gets made. We also think you're out of your mind if you think such a thing will happen.

To our eye, that interview seemed amazingly sliced and diced. We'd love to see the full tape and transcript of what was actually said.

A few important questions remain. How should people evaluate Bill Clinton's relationship with Monica Lewinsky, who was 22 to 24 years old at the time? Also this:

Does it really make sense to lump that relationship in with the conduct of Harvey Weinstein?

Bruni instantly did that today. But then, all the children will!

What actually happened: What actually happened between those two people?

Judge Starr was careful to write it all down! You can read her account here.

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  2. "Does it really make sense to lump that relationship in with the conduct of Harvey Weinstein?"

    It sure does, Bob: sexual relations with a subordinate.

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    1. Bend over Mao, and spread those ass cheeks real wide. Donny the Coward's Campaign Manager needs your help.

      https://manafortdefense.org/

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    2. No it doesn't. It was consensual. She flashed him.
      But of course, you don't believe in facts.

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    3. Mao, don't overstate your case. Sexual relations with a subordinate is unethical (even when consensual). What Weinstein did, which ranged from sexual harassment to rape, is criminal.

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    4. What Weinstein did, is exactly the same.

      Some (not all) of his sexual partners accused him of sexual harassment or rape, but it's the same deal with Clinton:

      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bill_Clinton_sexual_misconduct_allegations

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    5. Today, Donny the Chickenshit Coward's mouthpiece went to Israel and the FBI and American law enforcement in defense of the traitor he works for.

      Meanwhile, the mighty right wing Wurlizter has somehow gotten us talking a 20 year old blow job.

      Let's not play their game, please.

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    6. According to Paula Jones, Clinton dropped trou and told her to "kiss it".

      That was certainly Weinsteinesque.

      His relationship with Lewinsky was not.

      I agree with 1:56PM, though with some reservations.

      You can't turn adults into children or make every boss-subordinate relationship into some sort of privileged proessional-to-client one.

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    7. "His relationship with Lewinsky was not"

      The Lewinsky affair is an episode to be viewed in context. Which was exactly the reason for the sworn deposition in the Jones lawsuit.

      Weinstein and Clinton - exactly the same pattern. Which means that it make perfect sense to "lump" them together.

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    8. Extramarital affairs generally do occur within the "context" of surreptitiousness. The participants wish to shield themselves from the consequences of "discovery" in the usual sense of the word.

      That, and even a power imbalance, aren't enough to render a consensual affair as being similar to one under extreme duress.

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    9. Like I said: it's the pattern, not any specific episode.

      Surely Weinstein had plenty of "consensual" episodes too. "Consensual" in quotation marks, because "consent" there was clearly a product of the disparity of their positions in the hierarchy.

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    10. I don't think it makes much sense to suggest that any boss involved with an underling is comparable to Harvey Weinstein because of an argument about power imbalances and consent.

      Weinstein's "pattern" was far more...fraught...than that.

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    11. And that's not what I suggested.

      The word "pattern" indicates consistency. Not every boss involved with an underling is accused of sexual harassment and rape, by multiple persons.

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    12. The bone of contention here is that Somerby questions whether Clinton's relationship with Lewinsky is comparable to the relationships Weinstein had with his accusers.

      You say that it is based upon an inherent power imbalance and because Clinton has been accused of sexual misconduct by women too.

      That argument and the price of gas suggests that gas prices have gone up.

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    13. Should note here that to a hardcore right scumbag like Mao, Monicagate is a hardcore pieice of the idiotiotic playbook: right there with Saul Alinsky and The Fountainhead.

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    14. "The bone of contention here is that Somerby questions whether Clinton's relationship with Lewinsky is comparable to the relationships Weinstein had with his accusers."

      Indeed, that's how Bob framed it, but no, that would be a category error. Prejudiced framing, clearly with the intent (consciously or unconsciously) of defending one of his favorite politicians.

      You can't pose one, deliberately ripped out of context incident (Clinton) against a pattern (Weinstein). You need to match pattern against pattern, and their patterns are virtually identical (imo).

      And talking about patterns: unfortunately, in this discussion you're following Bob's demagogic pattern, refusing - time after time - to view the Lewinsky episode in context. Exhibiting all too familiar lib-zombie condition. Sad.

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    15. A movement conservative like Mao is basically literate in two issues, Cappaquiddick and Monica. And of course, they have those wrong. What a useless piece of trash.

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  3. Yes, the media has been comparing Trump's and Weinsteins behavior to Clinton's. Of course, there is no comparison, but when has that stopped the media before in their desire to engage in false equivalancy.

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  4. Monica Lewinsky never accused Bill Clinton. She revealed the affair in what she thought was a private conversation with Linda Tripp, who betrayed her. Guys like David, who can't quite think of Clinton's lie under oath, shouldn't accuse Clinton of lying under oath.

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    1. Lewinsky told Tripp that she was being asked to sign an affadavit denying an intimate relationship with Clinton in reaction to the discovery process of the Paula Jones harassment lawsuit.

      Clinton friend, Vernon Jordan, took her to an attorney's office to do this.

      If we were talking about Trump here, Tripp would be considered a heroine.

      Stormy Daniels has certainly been morphed into one.

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    2. I forgot that Monica signed a false affidavit. Thanks for reminding me. So much for her credibility.

      But this is a good opportunity to criticize Bill Clinton for actions besides oral sex:

      https://www.alternet.org/election-2016/15-ways-bill-clintons-white-house-failed-america-and-world

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    3. Let me make a wild guess.

      This link is about Clinton not being liberal enough...

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    4. Good point about Clinton working glove in hand to get the republican agenda passed.
      BTW, what kind of goodwill did that get Clinton from Republicans.

      #fucckemyouwillneverwinthemover

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    5. Cecilia, you’re breaking my heart. It’s about that fact that Clinton was never a liberal, though judging from your posts, you already know that. Some have hypothesized that the impeachment was at least partly a result of Republican rage at his ability to appropriate the agenda of Republicans, though I think that’s weak tea. Clinton, politically, did immense damage to our country as President, from the repeal of Glass-Steagall to the Telecommunications Act of 1996. There’s more in the alphabet, which Caesar provided.

      He was like Trump in a way. While the country focused on scandal, Clinton took a sledgehammer to legal and civic institutions. The fact that he got a blowjob was just a distraction from the real damage he was doing. Bob was right about media malfeasance during Clinton’s Presidency, but it doesn’t mean that Clinton wasn’t an asshole. And he was.

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    6. "Let me make a wild guess.

      "This link is about Clinton not being liberal enough..."

      Darnit, I need to start recognizing snark better!

      Leroy

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    7. Cecila, out from the shadows! Well, we can imagine that this Blog largely serves her needs well in it's sad recent years. Anyway, your Trump era contention that we ignore the fact Monica was the first of the two to tango, and that it was your side and Starr who actually ruined her life, shows what a truely twisted, evil bag of scum you really are. Thanks for playing!!

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  5. "We think the Today Show should release the tape of the full frogmarch so people can see how "TV news" sausage gets made. We also think you're out of your mind if you think such a thing will happen."

    Call me crazy, Bob.

    https://www.today.com/video/watch-full-interview-with-bill-clinton-and-james-patterson-1249289795644

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  6. Ms. Lewinsky went after him, not vice versa, which is why it was not a superior putting pressure on a subordinate.This was by her own admission. So if she didn't have a problem with it what is yours? Oh, that's right, he's a Democrat, and a Democrat named Clinton.

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    1. Goodness knows we can't expect fifty-something presidents to keep it in their pants when twenty-four-year-old seductresses make a move on them.

      Not in the middle of a sexual harassment discovery process. Not when other "governments are "watching". Not because of domestic opponents with long knives.

      Democrat or Republican, yeah, I have a problem with it.

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    2. So what about Trumps, Cecelia?

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    3. Cecilia is still waiting for the Trump women to be dragged into Court and shown up for the liars they are!!

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    4. Greg, as cogent and as unpredictable as you are, I’ll do my own opinionizing, thank you, bro.

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  7. IMHO Clinton's relationship with Lewinsky is NOT comparable to the relationships Weinstein had with his accusers. OTOH if you include all the Clinton accusers, including a credible accusation of rape, then the relationship between Clinton and Weinstein is closer. Clinton is fortunate that he's only being asked about Monica Lewinsky.

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  8. It's not a question of fact, 6:59. It's a question of what one considers "credible". Some pundits consider Broaddrick's rape accusation to be credible; others disbelieve that accusation.

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  9. Somerby: In the part of the sliced-and-diced interview

    Somerby: We're less inclined to respect Melvin after watching his sliced-and-diced, heavily-edited interview with Bill Clinton.

    Somerby: We don't know why he agreed to sit for a sliced-and-diced interview

    Somerby: Dumbest of all was the slicing-and-dicing,


    Again and again and again, Bob Somerby.

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  10. Bullroar, Bob. You are a lying sack of bullroar. Gorilla dust to justify your perpetual hate of journalists.

    "Colbert asked Clinton about Melvingate. This early statement by Wilstein brought us right out of our chairs:

    WILSTEIN (6/5/18): Clinton, who was seated next to James Patterson, the co-author of their new novel The President Is Missing, began by blaming the way his interview with NBC’s Craig Melvin was edited. “They had to distill it, and it looked like I was saying I didn’t apologize and had no intention to,” he said.

    Clinton didn't use the word "edited," but that seemed to be pretty much what he meant. And make no mistake—the editing of that interview remains a thing to behold."

    NBC has posted the entire interview. Very little Clinton said in response to Melvin was edited out. Not only did they include every claim he apologized, they even edited in his only public "apology" from 1998.

    Melvin: Did you ever apologize to her?

    Clinton: Yes. And nobody believes that I got out of that for free. I left the White House $16 million dollars in debt. But you typically have ignored gaping facts....

    When they ran the statement from 1998 this is what was said:

    Melvin: Mr. President, I am not trying to present a side....and I asked if you ever apologized and you said you had.

    Clinton: And I have.

    Melvin: You apologized to her.

    Clinton: I have apologized to everybody in the world.

    Slice and Dice Edit to 1998 Videotape

    Clinton: It is important that everyone who has been hurt know that the sorrow I feel is genuine. First and foremost my family. Monica Lewinsky and her family...."

    So Bob, your child Clinton lied on Colbert. He never apologized. He expressed sorrow. Perhaps, like Trump, he feels sorry for himself. He misrepresented the edits as badly as you did, you lying sack of bullroar.



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    1. He didn't apologize, he expressed sorrow. You must find Huckabee Sanders very credible!!

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  11. Funny that link didn’t mention the Congressional Review Act, which the Republicans use to selectively nullify regulations that are bad for business (profits). And with Dracula Clauses to boot. Thanks, Newt!

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  12. Yes, people who want to discredit Clinton at any cost, like you, believe it. But there is no way to find an acusation "not credible" that it fails to meet the standards of. And now, while saying She is speaking for the credibility of all women, She takes money to support Trump, who has called all his accusers liars and promised to sue each one. Which turned about to be, big surprise, not credible.

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  18. Real And Urgent Spell Caster Reviews To Solve Your Relationship Problem Dr Davi..

    I am from Canada, I have great joy in me as i am writing this testimony about the great man called Dr. Davi When my lover left me i never taught that i will be able to get her back after all she put me through, But i am so happy that after the interference of Dr. Davi i was able to get my lover back within 48hours. Are you going through a break-up or divorce? Do you need your Ex back fast? Don't cry anymore, contact Dr Davi powerful Love spell that work fast now!! I was hurt and heart broken when my lover breakup with me, and i could not know what next to do again, I love my girlfriend so much but she was cheating on me with another man and this makes her break up with me so that she can be able to get married to the other man and this guy use witchcraft on my girlfriend to make her hate me and our kids and this was so critical and uncalled-for. I went to Florida to see a friend and who was having the same problem with me but she later got her husband back with the Same Dr. Davi love spell. She told me that Dr Davi help with love spell in getting back lost lover back, and i decided to contact the same Dr Davi and he told me what is needed to be done for me to have my woman back. To my surprise my lover really called me and told me that she miss me so much, Oh My God! i was so excited, and today i am happy with my woman again and we are joyfully living together as one big family and i thank the powerful spell caster Dr Davi for bringing back my lover and i decided to share my story on the internet that Dr Davi is the best spell caster online who i will always pray to live long to help his children in the time of trouble, If you have any problem contact Dr Davi and i guarantee you that he will help you,Email him at:

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  19. Real And Urgent Spell Caster Reviews To Solve Your Relationship Problem Dr Davi..

    I am from Canada, I have great joy in me as i am writing this testimony about the great man called Dr. Davi When my lover left me i never taught that i will be able to get her back after all she put me through, But i am so happy that after the interference of Dr. Davi i was able to get my lover back within 48hours. Are you going through a break-up or divorce? Do you need your Ex back fast? Don't cry anymore, contact Dr Davi powerful Love spell that work fast now!! I was hurt and heart broken when my lover breakup with me, and i could not know what next to do again, I love my girlfriend so much but she was cheating on me with another man and this makes her break up with me so that she can be able to get married to the other man and this guy use witchcraft on my girlfriend to make her hate me and our kids and this was so critical and uncalled-for. I went to Florida to see a friend and who was having the same problem with me but she later got her husband back with the Same Dr. Davi love spell. She told me that Dr Davi help with love spell in getting back lost lover back, and i decided to contact the same Dr Davi and he told me what is needed to be done for me to have my woman back. To my surprise my lover really called me and told me that she miss me so much, Oh My God! i was so excited, and today i am happy with my woman again and we are joyfully living together as one big family and i thank the powerful spell caster Dr Davi for bringing back my lover and i decided to share my story on the internet that Dr Davi is the best spell caster online who i will always pray to live long to help his children in the time of trouble, If you have any problem contact Dr Davi and i guarantee you that he will help you,Email him at:

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  21. hello,
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  22. I made a promise to tell others the wonderful work of he who brought my ex girlfriend back to me. He is doctor AUGUS who is a spell doctor and was able to bring back my ex. My ex left me the very day she met her friend in my place, of which, unknowingly to her, I had nothing to do with her. She grew furious at the very sight of her friend and I was confused if she was initially mad with her. Days into weeks and weeks into months, my ex girlfriend did not speak a word to me as she went away. What was I to do? That was how i contacted doctor AUGUS on the Internet who after some procedures and progress, brought back my ex. Words are not enough to express my feelings and what doctor AUGUS has done for me. He really lifted a heavy load off my chest. To all those out there, please, don't think your situation is too primitive or too hard and complicated for anyone to understand. Contact doctor AUGUS and find joy once again, contact him on; augusmimi789@gmail.com

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  23. It just occur to me that I have not done the right thing since when my husband came back to me, I am on this blog to give thanks to whom it deserve, Some couples of weeks ago my life was in a terrible shape because my husband left me and I never believe that I was going to get him back, But through the help of this powerful spell caster called Dr.Ekpen my life is now in a joyful mood, I must recommend the services of Dr.Ekpen to anyone out there that they should contact Dr.Ekpen through these details below: ( ekpentemple@gmail.com ) or whatsapp +2347050270218 because through Dr.Ekpen assistance my marriage was restored.

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