BANALITY AND TOWN: We're tumbling into Loveland!

FRIDAY, MAY 7, 2021

Banality and grace: "We're tumbling into Graceland."

So (almost) says the narrator of Paul Simon's 1986 album, Graceland. He's speaking to his 9-year-old son in the album's title song, the second song on the album.

In the penultimate song on the album, the narrator tells the boy about the time when he first saw the young woman who would become the boy's mother.  In this fictionalized account, the child's future mother was, in effect, "danc[in'] to the music of Clifton Chenier, king of the bayou."

Where did this imagery come from? The leading authority on the album describes the state of Simon's personal life at that time and the state of his career:

In the early 1980s, Simon's relationship with his former musical partner Art Garfunkel had deteriorated, his marriage to actress Carrie Fisher had collapsed, and his previous record, Hearts and Bones (1983), had been a commercial failure. In 1984, after a period of depression, Simon became fascinated by a bootleg cassette of mbaqanga, South African street music...

The album unfolded from there, with ruminations on marital failure and on the onrushing reach of world music. According to this same authority, "Actress and author Carrie Fisher, Simon's ex-wife, said that the song [Graceland] referred in part to their relationship."

Simon saw himself "bouncing into Graceland" (or, more likely, into graceland) in the song of that name. Today, Our Town seems to be tumbling into Loveland, a remarkably banal human "space" first discovered by Karen Garner in April of last year.

Garner was 73 years old at the time. According to a lawsuit filed by her family, she weighed 80 pounds, and she suffered from dementia.

Also, she was unarmed. She was picking purple flowers as she walked home from a Walmart.

Despite these circumstances, Garner was violently arrested by several members of the Loveland, Colorado police. Officer then sat around the station house, chuckling and exchanging fist bumps as they watched bodycam footage of the violent arrest.

Ten feet away, Garner sat in a holding cell, positioned on a wooden bench with nothing to lean back on. Her arms were handcuffed behind, She shifted uncomfortably on this perch, dealing with the discomfort of the dislocated shoulder and fractured arm she'd received in the violent arrest.

Watching this edited fourteen minutes of videotape, we were struck by the astounding banality of the conversation in which those officers engaged. That said, we've also been struck by the banality of what has happened in the past few weeks:

When videotape of this conversation was released, it was almost wholly ignored by the major top professional  "journalists" here in Our Town. For the past ten years, these performers have been pretending to conduct a discussion of violent behavior by law enforcement officers, but this astonishing videotape didn't quite make the cut.

Of course, everyone knows why that videotape didn't make the cut. Amazingly, the banal stars of Our Town's "cable news" only discuss one type of news event at this point in time.

It's hard to believe they could be so banal (and so obedient), but they plainly are. They're willing to tell us certain things. Other things will be withheld.

It's hard to believe that they'd function like this, but they plainly do. This returns to the question of what happened, without Our Town being told, at Manhattan's Grace Church School.

In Tuesday's report, we showed you what Our Town was being told about those events in that day's Washington Post.  

In a front-page report, Meckler and Natanson, and their editors, were willing to tell you some of what had occurred at that school. 

There had been a dispute at Grace Church about the school's approach to issues of race. Meckler and Natanson, and their editors, were willing to tell you this:

MECKLER AND NATANSON (5/4/21): In Manhattan, the private Grace Church School had always seen itself as racially progressive. Then, in the aftermath of [George] Floyd’s murder, it heard from alumni posting on Instagram, saying they felt marginalized as students there. “It was a wake-up call that we were not doing as excellent a job as we thought we were,” said George Davison, the longtime head of school.

The school had already revised its curriculum. Then it hosted workshops on race and created affinity groups where students of different races could discuss their experiences.

At least one teacher, Paul Rossi, objected, both internally and, when he was not satisfied with the response, in public, including in an essay in the New York Post. He said the school requires teachers to treat students differently based on race and rejects dissenting voices.

“My school, like so many others, induces students via shame and sophistry to identify primarily with their race before their individual identities are fully formed,” he wrote. “The morally compromised status of ‘oppressor’ is assigned to one group of students based on their immutable characteristics. In the meantime, dependency, resentment and moral superiority are cultivated in students considered ‘oppressed.’ ”

Davison replied that no one should feel guilty about the circumstances of their birth. But he said students must face the systemic racism that surrounds them.

“Lots of people have, for a generation or two, said, ‘Well, I’m not a racist, so I have done all I need to do,” he said. “We have arrived at a point in our culture where we say you can’t be race-neutral anymore. Either you are against racism and therefore anti-racist or [you're] supporting racism.”

Rossi had complained about those workshops on race. Davison had replied, in heroic fashion. 

Davison had rejected Rossi's critique. If you read the Washington Post—if you live  in Our Town—the story at Grace Church ends right there, in a morally pleasing manner.

If you live in other towns, you've been allowed to know much more. More precisely, you've been allowed to know what happened next. 

Meckler and Natanson, and their editors, seemed to feel that you shouldn't know that. Why spoil a pleasing report, one drawn from Storyline?

What happened next at Grace Church School? We'll hand you a quick overview, then we'll show you where to go to hear lots of audiotape. Also, we'll show you where the New York Times seems to have vouched for the authenticity of that audiotape.

Here's what happened next:

As it turns out, Paul Rossi isn't some hot-headed right-wing kid. He had come to the teaching of math as a second career. As it turns out, he and Davison had conducted some long, mutually respectful adult conversations about those workshops at Grace.

Rossi thinks the school's approach to race is causing a lot of harm. His essay at the New York Post is very much worth reading, although, of course, we can't vouch for the accuracy of the various things he says about events at the school.

We think that essay is well worth reading. Here's the problem:

We don't necessarily have to vouch for the accuracy of Rossi's complaints. As it turns out, Rossi taped at least one lengthy phone conversation with Davison—and Davison is heard, on that audiotape, agreeing with the bulk of what Rossi has said.

Here's the way things broke bad:

After Rossi's essay appeared in the New York Post, Davison denied saying the various things attributed to him by Rossi. 

Apparently, Davison didn't know that his remarks had been captured on tape. In response to Davison's curt denials, Rossi released the audiotape, in which Davison said such things as this:

ALGAR (4/20/21): The head of an elite Manhattan school that booted a teacher for ripping its extremist “antiracism” policies was recorded admitting that it has been “demonizing white people,” according to audio released [today].

“We’re demonizing kids, we’re demonizing white people for being born,’’ George Davison, principal of the private Grace Church School, was allegedly caught telling whistleblowing  teacher Paul Rossi on the tape.

“We are using language that makes them feel ‘less than’—for nothing that they are personally responsible for,’’ the supposedly woke principal acknowledges, according to the audio released by Rossi.

“The fact is, I am agreeing with you that there has been a demonization that we need to get our hands around in a way in which people are doing this [understand],’’ Davison says.

There's more, but you get the idea.

This report was written by Selim Algar, a veteran education reporter at the New York Post. Algar's report is accompanied by lengthy chunks of audiotape in which Rossi and Davison are heard discussing these issues.

No one seems to be denying that the audiotape is real. On Sunday, April 25, Ginia Bellafante discussed this issue in the New York Times, in her weekly Big City column.

As part of a remarkably snarky essay, Bellafante scolded Rossi for having released the audiotape, but she never denied its authenticity. Following an earlier reference to a concerned parent at a different private school, this is the remarkable way she described the episode at Grace Church:

BELLAFANTE (4/25/21): Thanks to Fox News and all the other outlets dedicated to the notion that elite liberal institutions have abandoned any hope of sanity in the name of social revolution, Mr. Gutmann soon became a minor celebrity on the right—which might have been the whole point.

There, he was joined by a math teacher named Paul Rossi, who had composed a letter of his own, seemingly to the nation at large, laying out his objections to the way that his employer, the Grace Church School in Lower Manhattan, was going about the business of changing its culture around race. Mr. Rossi’s note lacked the hysterical tone of Mr. Gutmann’s. It raised valid concerns about the squelching of free thought. But he also took the dubious step of publicizing part of a secretly taped conversation he had with the school’s headmaster, George Davison, in which he goaded his boss, as if he were a prosecutor grilling a witness, into acknowledging that the new programming demonized white students.

Bellafante is stunningly snarky throughout. In a rational world, it would be amazing to think that the New York Times would publish a column like this.

In that early passage, Bellafante says that Rossi somehow "goaded" Davison into saying the things he'd said—into "acknowledging that the new programming demonized white students." According to Bellafante, the math teacher made him do it! 

As she continued, Bellafante voiced exactly zero concern about the idea that the programming at Grace Church might be "demoniz[ing] white students." Nor did she quote a single thing Davison actually said.

The head of school had actually said that his school's exciting new programs were demonizing white students, but Bellafante let that slide. When she returned to the events at Grace Church, she acted like none of this had actually happened, or might be continuing now:

BELLAFANTE: Mr. Rossi’s letter argued that students and teachers at Grace did not feel free to challenge a new language or ideology. When he did, he was reprimanded for “acting like an independent agent of a set of principles or ideas or beliefs,” he wrote. After the letter became public, Mr. Davison, the head of school, put together a committee to bring voices from all sides of the debate together. He asked Mr. Rossi to join, but Mr. Rossi instead chose to leave the school.

In a conversation I had with Mr. Davison last weekend, he was very frank about the imperfect nature of the changes at Grace. “We were in the process of developing programming faster than we ever had before,’’ he told me. “Whenever you build something quickly, you don’t always see all the pieces. The ones who are going to help you build it the most quickly are the true believers,” he said. But the truest believers are not always those in the best position to advance change without fear. “We need to be better at communicating those things. We need to get more opinion.” The truth, he said, was that most people were on board with the new mission. “If we were a school in Oklahoma, we might not have the consensus.”

Bellafante quoted the high-minded things the head of school had thoughtfully said, now that he knew his remarks were being recorded. 

As Bellafante's essay ended, Davison was the high-minded hero again, as he would be at the Washington Post two days later. Bellafante had rushed past his remarkable statements to Rossi. As Meckler and Natanson would do, she was serving Storyline.

In Our Town, you aren't allowed to know about the many things Davison said. In Our Town, the things you're told will almost always conform to Storyline.

Davison will end up upright and good. You won't be told about the things Rossi described in the New York Post, and you won't be told about the things Davison actually said on that remarkable audiotape.

What's actually happening at Grace Church School (or at Dalton or Brearly?) We can't tell you that. We're writing about Our Town's most famous newspapers, not about that one private school.

Concerning our newspapers and our other news orgs, we can tell you this:

This'll tell you about certain shooting deaths. They'll disappear all others.

They'll tell you about certain no-knock raids. No other raids need apply; it all depends on who dies.

They've been pretending for the past ten years to be discussing important aspects of police behavior. But when Karen Garner tumbles into Loveland, they will walk on by.

Here in our rapidly failing town, that astonishing Loveland videotape didn't make the cut. It simply wasn't worth discussing. And now, also this:

The head of school of a big private school made some startling admissions. The Washington Post and the New York Times didn't have to discuss this matter at all—but when they did, they were very careful to avoid telling Our Town what had actually happened.

On his Grammy-wining 1986 album, Paul Simon reviewed a breakdown in his personal life, even as he marveled at the rise of global understanding through the rise of world music. 

He mourned the way he had failed in the personal realm. Elsewhere, people were learning. 

A stunning banality was on display in that police station after an eight-pound woman tumbled into Loveland. Is the banality ruling Our Town now almost equally large?

Also on that album: The voice of the world first reached Simon's ears through that fellow at (the literal) Graceland. 

It had entered the country at New Orleans, then moved up the Mississippi. Down at the mouth of that river, "Cajun girls" still danced to the music of Clifton Chenier, king of the bayou.

Simon invited Linda Ronstadt to describe how the voice of the world had first reached her ears. On the song Under African Skies, this is what she said:

In early memory,
Mission music was ringing 'round my nursery door
I said, "Take this child, Lord, from Tucson, Arizona
Give her the wings to fly through
Harmony, she won't bother you no more."
For Linda Ronstadt, the musical voice of the wider world had crossed the southern border. 

Today, we're only allowed to hear certain strains in our stunningly banal town.


33 comments:

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  2. "a remarkably banal human "space" first discovered by Karen Garner in April of last year."

    Today Somerby borrows from the song Graceland solely because it sounds a bit like Loveland, a city in Colorado. The Graceland in the song is the name of Elvis's home, then a tourist attraction to which Simon was driving his son. "Paul Simon started calling his song "Graceland" after he came up with the track, which reminded him of the Sun Records sound where Elvis recorded."

    Thus it is unclear exactly what Somerby means when he refers to an uncapitalized graceland. It clearly has nothing to do with Loveland or Garner.

    Then Somerby poetically claims that Garner was the first person to discover the evil of abuse, which he equates with Loveland (unfairly to all the residents of that city), when she is far from the first person with dementia to have been abused.

    Romanticizing that violence against Garner by equating it with Simon's music or Eichmann's evil perhaps allows Somerby to ignore the abuse of power committed by those Loveland cops, and the need for police reform. Those police actions were not a routine example of humanity's flaws, nor were they acceptable in Loveland or Graceland or anywhere else. They were an act of sadism that cannot be tolerated by those hired to protect and serve citizens in distress, including elderly persons with dementia who have wandered away from their caregiving facilities (a common symptom of dementia).

    It is outrageous that Somerby treats this event this way. His lack of empathy for Garner sticks out a mile, and displays his own flaws as a person, NOT generalizable to the rest of our species. He needs to stop excusing evil and recognize that it is time to eliminate such behavior from policing, punish it when it occurs, and restore public faith in the officers whose job is to serve those in need of help.

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    2. Anonymouse 11:30am, TDH has written three blogs on the Loveland incident and described the video as being a seminal piece of anthropology.

      Somerby has described precisely what happened to Karen Garner with moving poignancy. What has irked you is his opinion that the treatment of this story was not what it would have been if Ms Garner was not white. .

      It’s that take on the matter that makes Somerby unemphatic and uncaring in your post, especially so since he juxtaposes what some of the kids at Grace School School are being taught about themselves, with what is said to other children there.

      Where is the grace at Grace Church? Where is the love and grace in Loveland for a tiny little lady whose plight wasn’t enough for the usual primetime news frenzy over bad cops?

      In the midst of personal loss, Paul Simon found his hope for the future and his grace in the merging of African voices and music with a blend and a uniting of other ethnic genres.

      It would be better if Grace Church School would take a similar path. It would be better if we cared about both the police and people hurt by them without equating that common sense approach to going easy on the monsters.

      I don’t know if that’s possible anymore. That path does nothing to further empower the powerful.

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    3. No Cecelia, I consider Somerby to be unempathetic because he excuses the cops excessive violence, ignoring her pain for 6 hrs before seeking medical attention, then laughing at her arrest, as part of human behavior when it is abnormal and inexcusable and sadistic. His refusal to condemn this behavior and his refusal to confront the need for police reform are what make him unempathetic. His use of Garner as a pawn in his attack on the media makes him unempathetic because he fails to consider her as a person, someone deserving of respect.

      The circumstances of Garner's arrest are poignant, but not because of Somerby's description. The facts are poignant. Read the original press report, which includes her crying and confusion and distress for six fucking hours! And Somerby thinks this is an appropriate case to use to batter the press with -- when it was reported lots of places and doesn't deserve to be part of his crusade against journalism.

      Somerby is not only wrong about the reporting of this case, but his dragging that poor woman into his personal vendetta is wrong too.

      And about Paul Simon -- he used African voices on the album but the point of that song was that it used the rhythms and techniques of Sun Records, Elvis's recording studio, not African rhythms (on that particular song). That was why the song was called Graceland, as a tribute to Sun and Elvis. It has nothing to do with religious grace or with Grace Church school. This is another example of Somerby's unfortunate tendency to engage in unselective stream of consciousness free association, something that schizophrenic and manic people do as a symptom of their illness.

      Your suggestion that Grace Church should merge African voices in their music makes no sense in the context of this discussion, no more than Somerby's Linda Ronstadt lyrics do.

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    4. You're wrong. He brings her up because the media is basically ignoring her suffering because she's white. (A couple of mentions in the press doesn't change that significantly.) There's something deeply wrong with how the media values human life and suffering based on skin color.

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    5. He brought her up to show how out of touch the people who criticize de-funding the police are.

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    6. How in the world did Somerby condone or somehow minimize the Loveland police here? Anonymous 5:08 is nuts.

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    7. Anonymouse12:28pm, the Anonymouse5:08pm is not nuts.

      She is militant with all the concrete thinking that is inherent in that condition.

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    8. Bob keeps showing case after case that the cops need to be de-funded.
      We need to stop talking about it, and just do it. This is almost as bad as Josh Hawley, continuously talking about how the people should be able to over-rule corporate boardroom decisions, while not raising a finger in Congress to make it happen.

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  3. "When videotape of this conversation was released, it was almost wholly ignored by the major top professional "journalists" here in Our Town."

    This is a lie.

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  4. Thank you for documenting the atrocities, dear Bob.

    It appears that the advances of Orwellian Ingsoc (aka liberal-hitlerian cult) in Oceania are still met, occasionally, with spontaneous resistance.

    And not only from the prole segment (as expected), but even (surprisingly!) from educated thoughtcriminals.

    We are observing with interest, dear Bob. Please continue keeping us informed.

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  5. "“My school, like so many others, induces students via shame and sophistry to identify primarily with their race before their individual identities are fully formed,” he wrote. “The morally compromised status of ‘oppressor’ is assigned to one group of students based on their immutable characteristics. In the meantime, dependency, resentment and moral superiority are cultivated in students considered ‘oppressed.’ ”

    Rossi cannot imagine that black students don't know they are black, before encountering a discussion of race in school! Thus it seems he is most concerned about the white students being told that their own position in society comes with implications for the treatment of those who, unlike them, are not white.

    Black students cannot avoid the confrontation with unpleasant realities brought about by their skin color. Why should white students be permitted to avoid that same confrontation?

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    1. "Why should white students be permitted to avoid that same confrontation?"

      Permitted?

      This is a red flag. An argument shouldn't require language like this to be convincing. In fact, this pushes me away from my natural inclination to support your argument.

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    2. It is the responsibility of a school to present material to students. Permitted refers to allowing students to avoid assignments and school activities. School is mandatory, although parents have choices about where and how to school their kids.

      In my opinion, when a school decides to allow some kids to elect not to do some schoolwork, they are permitting them to avoid that work. This applies whether it is learning long division, sex education, or reading Moby Dick.

      Conservatives have long objected to the idea that everything in a class should be "comfortable" for students, that nothing should make them uncomfortable. This fits that category. If conservatives are going to mock schools for establishing safe spaces and comfort zones, they cannot defend the excusing of white students from learning about racism and slavery on the grounds that it will make them feel bad.

      Old Yeller (spoiler -- the dog dies at the end) made me cry as a child. Should I have been protected from reading an upsetting book like that? I don't think so. Confronting the fact of death is a lifelong task. Confronting the facts about racism and other ugly human behavior (e.g, the Holocaust, Indian massacres, kidnappings, terrorist attacks, drunk drivers) is part of school. Why should teaching about racism be any different than teaching kids not to take drugs or that animal shelters kill unwanted pets or that pigs are slaughtered to make bacon?

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  6. "you won't be told about the things Davison actually said on that remarkable audiotape"

    Why should the general public be told about a secretly recorded audiotape of a discussion between a teacher and his supervisor about internal school matters?

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  7. Linda Ronstadt sang on Simon's album but she didn't write those words, as Somerby implies.

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    1. We all know that. And he implies nothing.

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  8. "This report was written by Selim Algar, a veteran education reporter at the New York Post. Algar's report is accompanied by lengthy chunks of audiotape in which Rossi and Davison are heard discussing these issues."

    If Davison was saying things that supported Rossi's view and discussing the need to correct those wrongs, why did Rossi feel the need to go to the media with his complaints? Further, why doesn't Algar quote Davison instead of paraphrasing him in a manner that makes him seem especially two-faced?

    Somerby seems to have jumped into the middle of a dispute without really knowing the veracity of anyone's claims, just to point his own finger at the press. I think it is a waste of time to go back and listen to the recording and figure out who is mischaracterizing who in this situation, because the problem is Somerby's use of this brouhaha to further his own agenda.

    I would fire Rossi for his failure to work out his grievances within the confines of the school, his airing of his complaints in the media regardless of the impact on kids at that school, other faculty and its administrators. His actions are essentially disruptive and destructive to the school itself, and not justified by an apparently political disagreement. He is no hero, except perhaps to the right wing.

    Somerby fails to understand the complexities of teaching children about race, something that is unavoidable given its role in our country's history and current society. He is using Rossi's situation, much as he uses Garner's, to beat up on the media for the choices they have made about how to cover these events. Somerby ignores that different choices have been made by different media, and he completely ignores, trivializes, glosses, the details of each of these events, excusing the cops and condoning Rossi's perfidy.

    Someone actually writing media criticism would frame his arguments in an entirely different manner, focusing on the issue of choice by editors, not snark by a columnist (not a reporter). Somerby's goals here are political, not an analysis or examination of journalistic practice. And he doesn't care who he co-opts in the process, even Linda Ronstadt, who would likely disagree with much of what Somerby writes, and who never intended her participation with Simon to result in an implied endorsement of Somerby's bigotry.

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  9. dandelions are banal; I'm not happy about it, and I don't fully understand it, but it just is.

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    1. "She was picking purple flowers as she walked home from a Walmart."

      Haven't seen any purple dandelions, but if I did, they would be far from banal.

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  10. Talking about Elise Stefanik, Digby says:

    "It was a short trip from maverick, bipartisan, modern Republican to flagrant Trumpian liar in just a few years. Of course, she isn’t alone. Freedom Caucus members like Mark Meadows and Jim Jordan used to pretend to care about “fiscal responsibility” until Trump came along and made GOP politics solely about media attention, owning libs, and fighting the culture wars. (That’s what it had been for a very long time but Trump freed them from having to pretend otherwise.)"

    https://digbysblog.net/2021/05/elise-stefanik-a-republican-woman-of-her-time/

    We have seen a similar transformation in Somerby here at his blog. If he was never politically liberal, he seemed more moderate and rational in previous decades, never as outright bigoted and irrational as lately. I have wondered whether Somerby's transformation was the result of aging, a financial bargain with the devil (or Russian disinformation agents), or whether there was some other explanation. We have seen previously "principled" Republicans go down this same path. Stefanik has power and national attention to gain by selling out to Trump, but what does Somerby gain? Perhaps relevance? Or maybe he has a conservative girlfriend he has been trying to impress. Whatever the explanation, Trump does seem to have a way of winning people to his cause, even people who used to seem relatively sane.

    I predict that this will be one of the lingering questions historians will ask about this time period. What made so many Republicans go completely bonkers?

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  11. How many white families have had this happen to them?

    "Source: abc13

    "They were running around the yard and they had Nerf wars," said Adriana Reyna. "They were wrestling and just enjoying family time."

    However, panic quickly set in when they saw police lights and Texas City officers walking toward their home. It was then that the children's demeanor changed.

    "They were very frightened," Adriana said. "All of us were. We did not have a clue what was going on."

    It turned out someone called 911 on the family, stating there were gunshots and people fighting, according to Adriana."

    Read more: https://abc13.com/texas-city-police-respond-to-family-party-called-for-alleged-shooting-call-of-kids-with-nerf-guns/10586505/

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    It seems to me that a private school that teaches students not to call the cops on people of color for frivolous or everyday activities, would be a good thing.

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  12. Somerby needs to spend more time reading articles like this, and less time dreaming about Paul Simon:

    https://coloradonewsline.com/briefs/heartbreaking-stories-of-black-maternal-deaths-pregnancy-complications-racism-related-at-hearing/

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  13. 'Today, we're only allowed to hear certain strains in our stunningly banal town.'

    You mean the strains of worship for Donald Trump that you hear in your Trumptard town ?

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  14. Bob has some important points to make here, but to put it kindly, I think they may get lost in the shuffle.
    As Hamlet's old lady put it "More matter with less art."

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  15. Bob should have also mention that the lady had been shoplifting, which probably should not affect how you feel about the incident, but it is fair to mention the cops did not just randomly go up to someone and start harassing her.

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    1. She has dementia. If you don't know what that means, look it up. She didn't know what she was doing.

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    2. Stupid, did the cops know She dementia? If you ever want to explore the concept of reason, you have to put your righteousness and vanity aside, at least for a few minutes.

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    3. Isn't dementia also the main excuse of your liberal cult's leader?

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  16. It just shows we need to fix the 2nd Amendment, ASAP. Currently, there is no penalty for gun owners who wont use their rights to fight the tyranny of the government.

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