Can we believe the things we're told in Our Town?

THURSDAY, MAY 6, 2021

Locking up Barr again: Can we believe the things we're told by the major news orgs in Our Town?

Today, consider a major case. Consider the case of Bill Barr.

On Tuesday night, Rachel Maddow devoted her first sixteen minutes to this favorite (defunct) punching bag. At this point, Barr no longer matters. But it's still good business, here in Our Town, to dream about locking him up, preferably while mugging and clowning and all-in-all yukking it up.

Maddow may have embellished a time or three as she entertained us with this evergreen product. This morning, a news report in the Washington Post includes this puzzling passage:

HSU (5/6/21): Both judges blasted Barr’s four-page letter to Congress in March 2019 that said the special counsel did not draw a conclusion as to whether Trump obstructed the investigation and that Barr’s own opinion was that the evidence was insufficient to bring such a charge.

In reality, Mueller’s report laid out evidence of obstruction but said the special counsel could not fairly make a charging decision, given department policy that a sitting president cannot be indicted.

Writing in March 2020, U.S. District Judge Reggie B. Walton called Barr’s public statements “misleading” and said he had “grave concerns about the objectivity of the process” that led up to the public release of the Mueller report.

The reporter here is Spencer Hsu. Forget his claim about what those two judges did. 

(The more recent ruling, by Judge Jackson, involves the judge's assessment of a document which hasn't yet been released to the public. It amused us, and yet it didn't amuse us, when Maddow seemed to assume that the judge's assessments had to be accurate. Judges can be biased too, and judges can make errors.)

Can you believe the things you're told? For today, let's consider Hsu's account of Barr's initial four-page letter. Let's compare it to Hsu's account of what the Mueller Report really said.

Hsu is certainly right on one point:

In his four-page letter, Barr did say that Mueller didn't draw a conclusion as to whether Trump obstructed justice. Barr may have done that because that seems to be what the Mueller Report clearly said at several different junctures.

The Mueller Report considered possible obstruction of justice in "Volume II" of the two-part report. At the start of Volume II, the report says this:

MUELLER REPORT (page 2): [I]f we had confidence after a thorough investigation of the facts that the President clearly did not commit obstruction of justice, we would so state. Based on the facts and the applicable legal standards, however, we are unable to reach that judgment. The evidence we obtained about the President's actions and intent presents difficult issues that prevent us from conclusively determining that no criminal conduct occurred.  Accordingly, while this report does not conclude that the President committed a crime, it also does not exonerate him.

Plainly, that passage says that the Mueller team was not "exonerating" Trump on the question of obstruction. Barr specifically quoted that language in his four-page letter. (You can see Barr's text below).

That said, the passage also says that the Mueller team didn't conclude that Trump committed an act of obstruction. Which part of "this report does not conclude that the President committed a crime" doesn't Our Town understand? 

We've read Barr's four-page letter a good numbers of times over the years. We've never quite been able to see what was supposed to be wrong with it.

By way of contrast, Barr staged a ridiculous press conference when he finally released the redacted Mueller Report roughly three weeks later. That press conference resembled a Trump PR event, but the original letter correctly stated that Mueller didn't state a judgment about whether Trump had committed an act of obstruction.

How about it? Should Barr have said that the Muller Report "did not draw a conclusion as to whether Trump obstructed the investigation?" 

Rather clearly, Hsu seems to imply that something was wrong with Barr's statement to that effect—but as we've shown you, that's what the Mueller Report seemed to say on page 2 of the relevant Volume. Indeed, just a few pages later, it seemed to say it again:

MUELLER REPORT (page 8): Because we determined not to make a traditional prosecutorial judgment, we did not draw ultimate conclusions about the President's conduct. The evidence we obtained about the President's actions and intent presents difficult issues that would need to be resolved if we were making a traditional prosecutorial judgment. At the same time, if we had confidence after a thorough investigation of the facts that the President clearly did not commit obstruction of justice, we would so state. Based on the facts and the applicable legal standards, we are unable to reach that judgment. Accordingly, while this report does not conclude that the President committed a crime, it also does not exonerate him.

As you can see, that's the same thing they said six pages earlier. At the very end of Volume II, they decided to say it again:

MUELLER REPORT (page 182): Because we determined not to make a traditional prosecutorial judgment, we did not draw ultimate conclusions about the President's conduct. The evidence we obtained about the President's actions and intent presents difficult issues that would need to be resolved if we were making a traditional prosecutorial judgment. At the same time, if we had confidence after a thorough investigation of the facts that the President clearly did not commit obstruction of justice, we would so state. Based on the facts and the applicable legal standards, we are unable to reach that judgment. Accordingly, while this report does not conclude that the President committed a crime, it also does not exonerate him.

As you can see, that was a verbatim restatement of the passage from page 8.

We've never really understood what was supposed to be wrong with Barr's original four-page letter. His later press event struck us as a ludicrous PR event, but his letter seems to present a reasonable overview, including the verbatim quote about Trump not being exonerated.

That said, the journalism in Our Town now runs on Storyline. Journalistic statements don't have to be accurate. They simply have to reflect prevailing script and Storyline.

Last night, Don Lemon gave it a try! Two night earlier, he had tried to explain the basic facts about the way this country was founded. Here's what Lemon said last night, almost surely reading text prepared by staff:

LEMON (5/5/21): Remember, Bill Barr released a misleading four-page summary of the Mueller report and hosted a spin session to get out in front of that report.

On obstruction, Barr's initial summary claimed that Mueller's report sets out evidence on both sides of the question of obstruction. But the Mueller Report specifically said it did not exonerate the president, and Mueller testified to Congress that he didn't.

You'll remember, at the time, Mueller called Barr out, writing a letter to him just after the summary. It was released saying it did not fully capture the context, nature and substance of the investigation and its conclusions. Mueller also made clear that if Trump did not commit a crime, we would know. 

 Did we mention that this was CNN? That account made almost no sense at all.

According to the CNN star, Barr released a misleading four-page summary of the Mueller Report. "But the Mueller Report specifically said it did not exonerate the president."

Did the Mueller Report specifically say that? Yes, it specifically did! But then again, so did Barr's "misleading" letter. Here's the relevant text:

BARR LETTER (3/24/19): The report's second part addresses a number of actions by the President—most of which have been the subject of public reporting–that the Special Counsel investigated as potentially raising obstruction-of-justice concerns. After making a “thorough factual investigation” into these matters, the Special Counsel considered whether to evaluate the conduct under Department standards governing prosecution and declination decisions but ultimately determined not to make a traditional prosecutorial judgment. The Special Counsel therefore did not draw a conclusion—one way or the other—as to whether the examined conduct constituted obstruction. Instead, for each of the relevant actions investigated, the report sets out evidence on both sides of the question and leaves unresolved what the Special Counsel views as “difficult issues” of law and fact concerning whether the President's actions and intent could be viewed as obstruction. The Special Counsel states that “while this report does not conclude that the President committed a crime, it also does not exonerate him.”

In his letter, Barr specifically quoted the passage in which the Mueller Report specifically said that it hadn't exonerated Trump. Compare that to Lemon's delivery of product.

Lemon's presentation made no sense, but why would anyone expect different? This is the way the "journalistic" game is now widely played in Our Town. 

The Crazy has plainly come to rule the towns in which The Others live. But banality often rules ours.

When it comes to the reporting and discussion of news, Our Town is in a deep corporate decline. It's been that way for a very long time—and as is true in other towns, Our Town just keeps getting worse.

According to anthropologists: According to major anthropologists, your lizard wants you to  believe every negative claim about Barr. These scholars keep saying that this is the way our human brains are wired.

According to these credentialed experts, sometimes such claims about Barr can be wrong. We find this extremely hard to believe, but that's what these experts keep saying.


74 comments:

  1. Thank you for documenting the atrocities, dear Bob.

    "Can we believe the things we're told in Our Town?"

    No, but it still can be useful, dear Bob. You can bet that whatever bs the priests of your cult spew, the truth is the opposite. Simple as that.

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    1. It's "as simple as that" to a simpleton.

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  2. The whole Russia/Trump collusion thing was a massive fail for Dems. Most rank and file like the idiot commenter(s) on this site still don't realize the whole thing was invented by the FBI.

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    2. LOL.
      Sure. If by FBI, you mean, corporate-owned Right-wing media, who first tried to blame Trump's win on "economic anxiousness', then tried "Russia".

      If you believe it took a foreign power to get white people to vote for Trump's bigotry, I have a bridge to sell you.

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    3. The Russian interference was used to reduce the number of votes for Clinton in the three states that swung the electoral college, not enhance Trump's votes.

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    4. The states the Clinton couldn't be bothered to even visit? I'm talking about Trump/Russian collusion - which was something that never happened.

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    5. Here is her explanation of why that criticism cannot account for the results of the election.

      https://www.businessinsider.com/hillary-clinton-pennsylvania-michigan-wisconsin-what-happened-2017-9

      Your contention that Trump/Russian collusion didn't happen is not being supported by facts that are emerging from intelligence sources now that Biden is in office.

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    6. The whole Russian interference thing was blown enormously out of proportion, if not invented out of whole cloth, by "our town." To the extent "Russia" sent deceptive face book messages, it was a drop in the ocean compared to what Brad Parcifal and other domestic actors put out there. There many, many reasons why Clinton lost (I could rattle off several if anyone is curious), there is a colossal dumbness on the part of our team with this, and it probably backfired as far as getting democratic votes. Anon 3:38 hits it on the nose.

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    7. Oh. In other words, now that Biden is in office the FBI continues to make false claims about Russian collusion and Hillary Clinton made lame excuses for her mistakes in a book she wrote. (Notice she didn't bring up Russia at all, which obliterates your original false claim @ 10:53 a.m.)

      Sorry, Russia Trump collusion is a total invention of the FBI and you're stupid as hell if you buy it. It supports Somerby's claims about our side's media's slavish devotion to storyline. You can't believe what you're told.

      You're proof. Look how they have fooled you re. collusion and Clinton's vast mistakes.

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    8. 9:41,
      How about the clowns who thought Hillary Clinton was "corrupt"?
      At least "Russia" is a country. Who knows what the fuck "Clinton Cash" was supposed to be?

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  3. “Which part of "this report does not conclude that the President committed a crime" doesn't Our Town understand? “

    The part that understands the difference between what the Mueller report actually said and the way Barr characterized it.

    For example, here is Mueller:
    “[I]f we had confidence after a thorough investigation of the facts that the President clearly did not commit obstruction of justice, we would so state. Based on the facts and the applicable legal standards, however, we are unable to reach that judgment. The evidence we obtained about the President's actions and intent presents difficult issues that prevent us from conclusively determining that no criminal conduct occurred.”

    Mueller cannot state that the president did not commit obstruction of justice. He would have, if he could have. The evidence prevented the Mueller team from conclusively determining that no criminal conduct occurred.

    He did not say “the report sets out evidence on both sides of the question and leaves unresolved what the Special Counsel views as “difficult issues” of law and fact concerning whether the President's actions and intent could be viewed as obstruction.”

    And he did not say “If we had confidence after a thorough investigation of the facts that the President clearly committed obstruction of justice, we would so state.” They wrote it in the negative.

    The Mueller Report language is unfortunately muddled, but it is clear that they are saying that they were unable to exonerate the president.

    And ultimately, as Mueller himself noted in a letter to Barr, the report should have been allowed to speak for itself. It did not need Barr’s meddling or sophistry.

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    1. For reasons I no longer recall, the release of the Mueller Report was delayed. For a period of time, the only basis for judging it was Barr's 4 page letter. mh wishes that the Mueller Report had been allowed to speak for itself.

      IMO that was never going to happen. I think that if Barr hadn't released his 4 page letter, Trump opponents would have released their summary of the Report, which would have been tilted to make it sound more damning. I think Barr's letter probably forestalled this tactic.

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    2. I disagree, I believe that Barr's letter WAS "this tactic."

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    3. I can't imagine how awful your childhood must have been, for you to believe a word Bill Barr says.

      I'm thankful I was raised by loving parents.

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    4. anon 10:51, Barr's letter has been blown way out of proportion by 'our team.' So he spun it a slight bit - so what. What impact could it possibly have had after the tidal wave of reactions to it? Politicians, people in general, pundits, cable news, all slant things all the time. When TDH valiantly points out how 'our team' does it (often much more blatantly than Barr did in his letter) commenters here twist themselves into a pretzel in trying to come up with some logic to deny simple common sense.

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    5. AC/ MA,
      The question is "How did such a HUGE lying piece of shit, like Bill Barr, get anywhere near the levers of governmental power?"

      'our team' needs to talk about that 24/7.

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  4. 'We've never really understood what was supposed to be wrong with Barr's original four-page letter'

    Naturally, because you're a malevolent, lying Trumptard, who spent the last 4 years defending Donald Trump, Roy Moore, Ron Johnson, Devin Nunes, and now Gaetz.

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  5. Bob plays Geraldo: Barr did not say that the report did not say don't prosecute Barr. He said, slavishly mimicking Trump, that it showed there was no collusion. That it cleared Trump.
    How said Bob insists on trying to make fools of his readers.

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    1. I'm glad that Bob is comforted by Barr's four page letter, and does not want to make a big deal out of the fact that Barr, with Rosenstein standing behind him, stood up and lied about "no collision<" knowing damn well that is the part that would resonate with Fox News and an adequate percentage of the public. Sadly, Bob signs on for what the President he considers mentally ill did to the Nation.

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    2. I'm glad that Bob is comforted by Barr's four page letter, and does not want to make a big deal out of the fact that Barr, with Rosenstein standing behind him, stood up and lied about "no collision<" knowing damn well that is the part that would resonate with Fox News and an adequate percentage of the public. Sadly, Bob signs on for what the President he considers mentally ill did to the Nation.

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    3. I'm glad that Bob is comforted by Barr's four page letter, and does not want to make a big deal out of the fact that Barr, with Rosenstein standing behind him, stood up and lied about "no collision<" knowing damn well that is the part that would resonate with Fox News and an adequate percentage of the public. Sadly, Bob signs on for what the President he considers mentally ill did to the Nation.

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    4. “Barr no longer matters” Except of course to Barr and his lawyers, who argued against making the DOJ memo public for some odd reason. When that document and the unredacted Mueller report are made public, only then can a clear view of Barr’s activities be obtained.

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    5. The was no collusion or coordination or conspiracy according to the report. Mueller Report Page 5: "the investigation did not establish that
      members of the Trump Campaign conspired or coordinated with the Russian government in its
      election interference activities."

      You people are complete morons.

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    6. On January 11th Steve Mnuchin announced that the State Department was sanctioning 7 entities including multiple Ukrainian politicians, freezing their assets in the US and prohibiting US companies from doing business with them. This for coordinating a smear campaign of misinformation against Hunter Biden. On the one hand they had ties to Russian operatives. On the other they were communicating this bullshit to none other than the president’s fine specimen of a lawyer, Rudy Giuliani. Understand this, dimwit: in the waning days of the Trump regime the State Department acknowledged the existence of a Soviet backed smear campaign of lies that was used against Joe Biden, with false information ultimately peddled to right wing U.S. “news outlets” through the president’s private lawyer.

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    7. 11:18,
      You seem pretty "informed".
      Why do you think all of those Trump aids lied about their contacts with Russians?
      Do you think it could it have been "economic anxiousness" (i.e. bigotry)?

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    8. 3:20 Best for Fox viewers to forever use quotation marks around the word “informed”. Your comments are morphing into word salad. The Mnuchin announcement specified that these activities were an attempt to tamper with the 2020 election. Of course Trump and his genius lawyer got as much mileage out of this seditious activity as their right wing media outlets would allow. And the morons who stay “informed” by subscribing to these media outlets were sufficiently outraged. The Post’s fake story about the Kamala Harris book distribution at the Mexico border which was rapidly spread among the right wing media outlets that you undoubtedly subscribe to is the most recent example of what your ilk would describe as “information”.

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    9. That's very dim-witted of me. Thanks for letting me know that the Trump Treasury department found Trump Russian collusion where the years long, $200 million Mueller investigation could not. :)

      Really ,.. your ignorance is scary and proves Somerby right on all counts.

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    10. The Trump aides lied about their contacts with Russian agents, because the next truth that comes from a Right-winger will be the first.

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    11. 1240 Five days after Don and Rudy’s great day of inciting an insurrection and long after anything was on the line, members of Trump’s own administration decided to take aim and cough up the goods with what they probably knew for months. Unlike Mueller they worked on the inside. In a Machiavellian world, their target may have been that excellent barrister, Giuliani. You really should get your head out of the collective asses of Fox and Friends, Hannity, Bannon, et al. Do some reading on why James Murdoch left Newscorp. Get acquainted with reality. Try to keep up.

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    12. 1240 Five days after Don and Rudy’s great day of inciting an insurrection and long after anything was on the line, members of Trump’s own administration decided to take aim and cough up the goods with what they probably knew for months. Unlike Mueller they worked on the inside. In a Machiavellian world, their target may have been that excellent barrister, Giuliani. You really should get your head out of the collective asses of Fox and Friends, Hannity, Bannon, et al. Do some reading on why James Murdoch left Newscorp. Get acquainted with reality. Try to keep up.

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    13. This post makes no sense at all. You're an idiot and Russia and Trump never colluded in 2016. The story to which you are referring you haven't even taken the time to understand. The whole story is totally lost on you. The whole thing is invented by the FBI and promoted by Democrats like Clinton because it took attention off her vast failures and people like you are stupid enough to believe it, being that you're fully tribal. Anyway, whaddya going to do? You'll always be wrong about it. It shows how little you know about politics and the world to think it is even possible. It's sad really.

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    14. I am truly ignorant about this FBI plot. Go ahead and provide references if you are not pulling nonsense out of your ass. I thought so. Mnuchin was a Trump appointee and ardent supporter. Do you have inside information he was unaware of? I thought so. Did you witness Vince Foster’s murder? You are a member of a dumb fringe cult that is willing to believe anything fed to you by cynical grifters. If you don’t believe that, Steve Bannon has part of a wall to sell you.

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    15. "and promoted by the many Trump aides who lied to the FBI."

      Fixed for accuracy.

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    16. Well done. Your fiction serves you well, as is invariably the case with Trump supporters.

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    17. I know you're ignorant of the FBI plot. That is by design. It's all there if you want to research it. Guess what - the FBI AND Trump can both suck. I guess that never occurred to you which makes sense seeing you're a complete moron.

      Here is the nut. I'm sorry you're too stupid and partisan to understand any of this. Before you start in with the pavlovian ad hominem on Greenwald himself, please tell me exactly and precisely what you disagree with of what he wrote.

      What newly released documents over the last month reveal is what has been generally evident for the last three years: The powers of the security state agencies — particularly the FBI, the CIA, the NSA, and the DOJ — were systematically abused as part of the 2016 election and then afterward for political rather than legal ends. While there was obviously deceit and corruption on the part of some Trump officials in lying to Russiagate investigators and otherwise engaging in depressingly common D.C. lobbyist corruption, there was also massive corruption on the part of the investigators themselves, exploiting and abusing their vast and invasive investigative and prosecutorial powers for ideological goals, political subterfuge, election manipulation, and personal vendettas. The former category (corruption by Trump officials) has received a tidal wave of endless media attention, while the latter (corruption and abuse of power by those investigating them) has received almost none.

      https://theintercept.com/2020/05/14/new-documents-from-the-sham-prosecution-of-gen-michael-flynn-also-reveal-broad-corruption-in-the-russiagate-investigations/

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    18. Here you go, 8:30 AM:

      "there was also massive corruption on the part of the investigators themselves, exploiting and abusing their vast and invasive investigative and prosecutorial powers for ideological goals, political subterfuge, election manipulation, and personal vendettas."

      Read that again. Notice there are zero citations, physical proof, recordings, etc.

      IOW, what, other than the accusation investigators were corrupt, can Greenwald provide to make anyone think it's true?

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    19. If you read everything Greenwald wrote about FBI corruption, you'll notice he has reams and reams of accusations, to back-up those accusations against the FBI. Proof?, Not so much.

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    20. "The Intercept" told Greenwald they'd only publish the things he could support with facts, so he "cancel cultured' himself, and went to SubStack.

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    21. The best defense that Trump didn't collude with Russia, is that everyone knows (although some won't admit) it doesn't take a foreign power meddling in our elections for Republicans to be amped-up about voting for a bigot, like Trump.

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    22. "some won't admit" = The corporate-owned Right-wing media (AKA the Mainstream Media).

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    23. It's OK if you don't believe the FBI engineered Russiagate. It's OK if you still think Trump and Russia colluded! An ex-FBI lawyer falsified a document that was used as part of the inquiry into alleged Russian interference with the 2016 US presidential election. FBI agents asserted privately before Trump was elected they would prevent Trump from from becoming president. The FBI lied to congress about the Steele Dossier (according to FBI documents), the completely false document the whole thing was based on.

      But keep on believing! It's what you're supposed to do. I am great to agree to disagree.


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    24. This will spell it all out for you

      https://www.justice.gov/storage/120919-examination.pdf

      We are deeply concerned that so many basic and fundamental errors were made by three separate, hand-picked investigative teams; on one of the most sensitive FBI investigations; after the matter had been briefed to the highest levels within the FBI; even though the information sought through use of FISA authority related so closely to an ongoing presidential campaign; and even though those involved with the investigation knew that their actions were likely to be subjected to close scrutiny. We believe this circumstance reflects a failure not just by those who prepared the FISA applications, but also by the managers and supervisors in the Crossfire Hurricane chain of command, including FBI senior officials who were briefed as the investigation progressed.

      It's OK not to believe any of it. It's human. It's probably impossible for you.

      "Growing hostility between the two halves of America feeds social distrust, which makes people more prone to rumor and falsehood. It also makes people cling much more tightly to their partisan identities. And once our brains switch into “identity-based conflict” mode, we become desperately hungry for information that will affirm that sense of us versus them, and much less concerned about things like truth or accuracy."

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    25. Great work.
      That last paragraph is the best explanation for why Right-wingers tried to violently overthrow the government just because black people's votes counted in an election just as much as theirs, that I've seen on the internet.

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    26. 12:22,
      Agreed. Will be using that to explain the Republican Party's obsession with voter suppression from here on out.

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    27. As expected and not surprising, no comment from you on the irrefutable evidence presented of FBI interference and meddling to create the false Russian collusion narrative. But that's okay! You shouldn't believe it, you're not supposed to. As a sheep, you're programmed to believe collusion happened.

      Also, of course no acknowledgment that your original claim that Russian interference was used to reduce the number of votes for Clinton in the three states that swung the electoral college is so embarrassingly stupid Clinton herself didn't make it in her book of excuses.

      You're not capable of seeing narratives outside your tribe because of your lack in intelligence. So don't worry about it! You can spend your time worried about these voter suppression issues that are true and very real.

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    28. 8:30,
      I'm late to the party, but I too want to thank you for that post about how racist Republicans are.
      Thanks for all you do.

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    29. Republican sheep did nothing to shutdown the FBI.
      Instead they doubled down on voter suppression.
      Priorities.

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    30. Yes, you're very late to the party. That's very obvious. I'm sure that's the story of your life.

      I'm the opposite. I'm always on time. That's why I don't go on comment sections losing arguments and looking like a fool.

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    31. 4:00 pathetically poses as if he were different people. LOSER!

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    32. You don’t read carefully. The Meuller report at no time said it exonerated the Trump campaign from collusion with the Russians. The Steele dossier was not “completely false” . It identified Russian meddling in the 2016 election and asserted correctly that multiple members of the Trump campaign had secret meetings with the Russians. The FBI? On October 28, days after Giuliani signaled an October surprise for the Clinton campaign, James Comey interfered with the election by publicly stating that he was reopening the email investigation. Meanwhile it was 5 months AFTER THE ELECTION that the FBI announced their investigation during the campaign into the DNC hacking by the Trump campaign and Russian meddling into the election. So the FBI disclosed damaging information relevant to Clinton and withheld damaging information relevant to Trump in the run up to the election. Try understanding the big picture here- the FBI’s PUBLIC ACTIVITIES. Someone ask Glenn Greenwald how the abuse of power by the FBI negatively affected Trump’s 2016 election.

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    33. Sad and so stupie moving the goal posts. Did Mueller find collision,. conspiracy etc between Trump and Russia? No. Did the Steele dossier find it? No. There was no collusion. It was invented by the FBI. the timing issues don't matter. It's you who hasn't studied the issue or understands it. So pathetic!

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    34. You’ve failed miserably here so your bankrupt excuse for an argument is laced with childish epithets. Very thoughtful. Nice work.

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    35. Okay but the Trump Russia collusion narrative which began with the FBI and was manipulated by the FBI as I have shown, never yielded any proof that Russia and Trump colluded in any way. Which makes sense. The narrative never made sense. Democratic power structures used it to fool their rank and file because they need an explanation for their loss. Sorry - you and all the nyms you pathetically post under lost this argument. There was never any proof of collusion and the whole thing was engineered by the FBI.

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    36. Not only the "collusion" bullshit is bullshit, but also the "Russian meddling" bullshit is bullshit.

      The only case that went to court flopped; the charges against Concord Management and Consulting were dismissed with prejudice. It was all bullshit from the get-go.

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    37. "The narrative never made sense."

      Exactly. Who would think it would take meddling by a foreign power to get Right-wingers so excited to vote for a bigot, they would crawl across a football field of broken glass to do so?
      "Russia" belongs with "economic anxiousness", "Conservatives care about the deficit" and the rest of the lies the media peddles to cover-up that racism is what gets Republican votes.

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    38. It'll be interesting to see if Trump blames Russia, when he loses the 2024 Republican Presidential nomination to someone who is an even bigger piece of shit than him.

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    39. 9:13,
      Before you look down at others and feel you might be smarter than them, remember you're the one who brought up Glenn Greenwald as a voice of reason.

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    40. You lost this argument. Sorry. It was stupid of you to even undertake it and it was stupid of you to make your original claims.

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    41. Lost the argument before it began.
      "Russia", not "bigotry". LOL

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    42. "Russia" is what you get when the corporate-owned Right-wing media won't report the GOP is nothing but a criminal enterprise.
      Something has to fill that vacuum.

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    43. “The charges against Convord Nanagement and Consulting were dismissed with prejudice.” Speaking of bullshit. Prosecutors for the justice department argued that since the Russians involved were not in the US and could not be prosecuted.and because moving forward with the case would potentially expose the intelligence community to risk of revealing sensitive information the case not be moved forward. You read this and portrayed it as a judge dismissing the case with prejudice. Or you didn’t read it. That makes you an ignorant troll or a liar. Take your pick. Hint: you can choose both.

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    44. Yes, the charges against Concord Management and Consulting were dismissed with prejudice, dear dembot.

      You are, of course, welcome to add your pitiful bullshit to the Everest of bullshit already on record. It won't make any difference.

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    45. Only a far right wing troll could attempt (unsuccessfully) to misinterpret what happened here. Bill Barr’s DOJ lawyers requested that the case they had been making against this entity be dropped which the court allowed. But you would twist it to suggest that the judge made a ruling against the DOJ. The judge ALLOWED BILL BARR’S DOJ to drop the case at their request, dumbass.Read up on the case and don’t assume we are all skimming Wikipedia to understand it.

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    46. Tsk. Yes, dear dembot-truther: the charges against Concord Management and Consulting were dismissed. With prejudice.

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    47. Yes idiot Barr’s prosecuting attorneys specifically requested that the judge dismiss their case with prejudice. He granted their wish. Only in Trump/Barr’s DOJ does this bullshit happen.

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    48. “With prejudice” do you know what that means? Barr’s lawyers asked the court to dismiss the case and not allow it to be reopened at any time I the future. This would prevent any future actions against the Russian defendants by the DOJ. Think about what this means.

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    49. It means exactly what I said, days ago, dear truther:

      Not only the "collusion" bullshit is bullshit, but also the "Russian meddling" bullshit is bullshit.

      The only case that went to court flopped; the charges against Concord Management and Consulting were dismissed with prejudice. It was all bullshit from the get-go.

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  6. "Can we believe the things we're told in Our Town?"

    Not only do we believe them, we are led to become obsessed about them. It happens in all mass media-led towns. It shows the enormous power of plutocrat-led mass media which will never give up its power.

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