TUESDAY, JANUARY 18, 2022
A bit later on, he helped prove it: "Civilization is fragile."
Tucker Carlson said that last night, midway through his hour-long program on Fox.
That's a very important and accurate point. Late in his program, Carlson proceeded to prove it.
Journalist Charlie LeDuff claims that he has unearthed a scandal in Michigan. We don't know if LeDuff's claims are accurate.
After speaking with LeDuff, Carlson transitioned directly to a new topic. Here's what he said at that point.
CARLSON (1/17/22): You see the point. It just took one person who was interested and aggressive to get to the truth.
And that matters! The truth does matter.
Well, speaking of the truth, this is a story we're going to look back at with jaws open. The city of Washington, D.C. is threatening to fire all members of its fire department who don't have the mandated number of injections, despite the fact they don't work.
Despite the fact they don't work! Having said that vaccination doesn't work, Carlson interviewed a D.C. firefighter about the department's mandate policy.
During that brief transition, Carlson stressed the fact that the truth really does matter. He quickly proceeded to make a wildly inaccurate statement about a matter of life and death.
Earlier, Carlson had said that civilization is fragile. Our own civilization is now breaking down under the weight of assaults of this type.
The truth is also shaded and misstated every night of the week on our own tribe's "cable news" channels. Two tribes of corporate pundits have long since gone to war with each other. Civilization is coming undone under the weight of their conduct.
Carlson's strange conduct is hard to explain. You may think our pundits are better.
Such an assessment could even be right. Given the trouble this nation is in, we need something much better than that, and it's very unlikely we'll get it.
Are our pundits, pols and academics really up to that task? We see no sign that they actually are, and a "silent secession" is proceeding apace everywhere else that we look.
Which mainstream media outlets are owned by co-ops?ReplyDelete
"He quickly proceeded to make a wildly inaccurate statement about a matter of life and death."ReplyDelete
Meh. It's a perfectly accurate statement, dear Bob. These so-called 'vaccines' don't prevent infection or transmission.
Apparently they are likely to prevent (for a few months) a severe illness and death, but that certainly isn't a reason to force people to 'vaccinate'.
Do you even care about the facts, dear Bob? You seem to be completely blinded by the COVID-cult dogma...
Mark my words, dembot liberals will make ingesting Drano illegal too, if we let them.Delete
Meh. Unlikely, dear dembot. They can't even pass the law giving voting rights to dead people.Delete
The misinformation robot is at it again. The mutation of the virus depends on the unvaccinated.Delete
Maybe Mao is sad he can't raise dead anti vaxxers from the grave to agree with him. Poor misled morons.
"The mutation of the virus depends on the unvaccinated."Delete
Ha-ha. Is this the latest liberal zombie-science talking point? Nice.
If it's just a partisan talking point then cite a non partisan source about how the virus mutates.Delete
I'll bet you a million dollars you can't.
Mao - what you wrote is true, but it depends on the meaning of the word "work". Many vaccines, like measles or chicken pox, pretty much fully prevent one from contracting the disease. OTOH the flu vaccine merely provides partial protection. So, Carlson was accurate with one meaning of "work", but inaccurate with another meaning of "work".Delete
However, there is no reasonable doubt that the vaccine do some good. They provide a very high degree of protection against death, if one comes down with covid. Carlson's imprecise words encourage his listeners to wrongly believe that the vaccines are entirely useless or that the risk of the vaccine outweighs the risk of not getting vaccinated.
Uh oh looks like Mao just lost a million dollarsDelete
Mao e comment troll debunked his own claim by admitting that vaccines "are likely to prevent (for a few months) a severe illness and death". Today I was tired and didn't feel like fact checkibg a troll. To my surprise and delight, he fact checked himself.Delete
@David "So, Carlson was accurate with one meaning of "work", but inaccurate with another meaning of "work"."
Dear David, in context, which is DC liberals threatening to fire all members of its fire department, saying that it doesn't work is perfectly accurate. Just as we said in our 1:13 PM comment.
And that's all there is to it.
David: "However, there is no reasonable doubt that the vaccine do some good."
We wouldn't be so religiously certain if we were you, dear David. Don't be like liberals.
The pharma industry is making billions of dollars selling this shit. Enough to bribe (perfectly legally, of course) hundreds of thousands of 'experts', journos, politicians, and bureaucrats.
In a situation like that, we would humbly recommend to always have some doubts, no matter what kind of messages you're bombarded with from all directions.
Republicans are remarkably dumb, the Covid vaccine absolutely can immunize you from Covid.Delete
Is it now logical to mandate a yearly flu vaccine?Delete
"...yearly flu vaccine"Delete
Let’s hope not.
Every Right-wing life the vaccine saves, retards the nation’s progress.
Like you need anyone’s help with that, Berto.Delete
...speaking of the COVID-cult, dear Bob, here's CJ Hopkins for you:
The Last Days of the Covidian Cult
This was predicted by a sociologist in June 2020:ReplyDelete
"Reich says that she started noticing the shift during the Obama presidency, right after the Affordable Care Act passed. Reich was working on a study about small business owners’ attitudes toward paying for employee health insurance. “When I suggested that Obamacare might help, they started talking about ‘womb to tomb’ government tracking,” she said. “I was definitely not expecting that.” Soon after, she started noticing comments about government overreach in anti-vax groups."
The economist Dean Baker says we will continue to see variants until we vaccinate the world, and this process is being slowed by patent monopolies:
Will we ever see end to variants? Consider that each year's flu vaccine is widely available, yet we see a new variant every year.Delete
That's one possibility but it depends on vaccination rates as well.Delete
It may be that the future of SARS-CoV-2 is still in human hands. Vaccinating as many people as possible, while the jabs are still highly effective, could stop the virus from unlocking changes that drive a new wave. “There may be multiple directions that the virus can go in,” Rambaut says, “and the virus hasn’t committed.”
"The truth is also shaded and misstated every night of the week on our own tribe's "cable news" channels."ReplyDelete
The truth matters and this is NOT the truth. Whatever trivial mistakes are found on mainstream news are not deliberate like those on Fox and the mainstream stations do not exist to spread partisan propaganda, as Fox does.
Pretending that there is equal malfeasance on both sides only serves to weaken faith in news sources, making people more vulnerable to conspiracy theories and right-wing propaganda. Somerby exists to promote this false idea about the reliability of news, which may be imperfect but is not the same kind of purveyor of lies as Fox.
Thomas Friedman went on Charlie Rose and said we need to rape Iraq. How was that informative to us?Delete
Friedman is a columnist not a reporter. Opinion is opinion no matter what channel it is on.Delete
Friedman is a neoliberal, universally disliked by Progressives and those on the Left.Delete
Thomas Friedman is not a true Scotsman. Fox news is legally just entertainment. The charlie rose show is just fun and games. Honk honk who wants a balloon animal?Delete
Thomas Friedman is not a counterexample to the claim that Somerby is both sides-ing. Not only was that a single incident, it was 20 years ago, and Thomas Friedman is indeed a neoliberal. You are misusing the "No true Scotsman" fallacy, as it does not even falsify the claim.Delete
Pointing out that Thomas Friedman does not work to justify Somerby's stance is not equivalent to hand waving at Fox News or Charlie Rose. That is a non sequitur.
While clowning, to accuse others of clowning, is merely projection; a fundamental tactic used by right wingers.
I'm sure everyone in Iraq with dead family are so happy they've been dead for 20 yearsDelete
Excuse me, I'm here to tell you your son is dead. He's been killed by an air raid. But don't worry. In 20 years this won't be relevant.Delete
I thought we're supposed to learn from history. I guess you agree with conservatives that if history comes out making you look bad then it's unpatriotic to remember itDelete
Your strawmaning, as well as your "mind reading", only accomplishes to reinforce what a clown you are. Thomas Friedman does not falsify the assertion that Somerby nitpicks mainstream media while ignoring the harm down by right wing media. Even if the Iraq disaster somehow hinged on Thomas Friedman, a laughable notion, that still does not justify Somerby's nonsense.Delete
Furthermore, Iraqi blood is on your hands, while you clown around, you contribute to the lowering of discourse. I am sure all those Iraqi dead are so glad you are now weaponizing their suffering to try to score your pathetic nonsense points. Conservatives are applauding your efforts, as all your efforts accomplish conveniently align with their goals.
"They feel quite sure they can't trust us. They believe that they can trust him."ReplyDelete
This is because major figures such as Trump tell them lies about the fake news, the media is the enemy of the people, and so on, a chorus that Somerby joins. It isn't because the mainstream media is regularly exposed as lying liars, the way Fox has been.
Dorcas -- see this list of 156 media errors in the Trump era, compiled by independent journalist, Sharyl Attkisson.Delete
You find Sharyl Attkisson credible, do you? LOLDelete
"independent journalist" - bwahahaha
That list is rubbish from a Trump acolyte. Right wing media makes 156 errors per hour, daily.Delete
That list by Sharyl Attkisson is quite accurate and has good evidence to back it, not that the previous critics would know enough about it to know that. I doubt they've examined any part of it. It is enough for the progressive mind to reflexively reject anything that contradicts their deeply held beliefs, no matter how factual or truthful that information is.Delete
After Somerby found out Rittenhouse did chase Rosenbaum, this is the weak sauce he is left pedaling.ReplyDelete
Who chased who first?Delete
Rittenhouse first chased Rosenbaum, taunted him, ran past Rosenbaum while taunting him, enticing Rosenbaum to follow, once Rosenbaum started to follow, seconds later, with no warning, Rittenhouse spun around and shot Rosenbaum dead, then Rittenhouse excitedly galloped off like he had just scored a touchdown. It was murder in cold blood.Delete
Somerby's goal is to manufacture ignorance, he has no moral compass, he is a lost soul.
The above post logged at7:46 is misinformation, or to put it plainly, a lie.Delete
They have been fed nonsense by Fox for a generation, and moved onto greater right distortions when Fox’s did not flatter them enough. That’s why Bob thinking he could simply Ignore the right media (this is a rare exception) was such a moral failure.ReplyDelete
“Carlson's strange conduct is hard to explain.”ReplyDelete
Really? Something about money and stuffing it down pants?
Or ”he’s crazy” (Somerby recently).
“ He quickly proceeded to make a wildly inaccurate statement about a matter of life and death.”ReplyDelete
Who is willing to bet that Carlson knows the truth, that vaccines work, and that he was lying rather than simply “making an inaccurate statement?”
Carlson is vaccinated, works remotely, and Fox News has some of the strictest rules pertaining to Covid.Delete
Carlson has blood on his hands.
"Omicron does not favor the vaccinated; it favors everyone," said Dr. Amesh A. Adalja, a senior scholar at Johns Hopkins Center for Health Security. "The immune evasive properties of the variant allow it to infect fully vaccinated, and even boosted, individuals. This doesn’t mean it favors or targets them, it just means it has the capacity to infect them. Other variants lacked this ability and preyed primarily on the unvaccinated. Omicron can prey on both."ReplyDelete
Everyone knows that the greatest transgression in the history of journalism was the night of April 9, 2021, when Rachel Maddow showed a photo of herself after getting vaccinated and talked about the experience.(http://dailyhowler.blogspot.com/2021/04/starting-tomorrow-maddow-and-town.html)ReplyDelete
It was clowning in a “stupid, despicable manner.”
The question suggests itself as to whether Somerby’s rage was proportional to the behavior he showcased.
The other question is: why would he be enraged that Maddow shared her vaccination experience and urged others to get it, whereas when Tucker Carlson asserts that vaccines do not work, there is no sense of outrage.
I find the lack of outrage in today’s post frankly appalling.
The Daily Howler didn't call her a clown for being vaccinated. He called her a clown for putting a sticker on her forehead on national TV.Delete
That merits an entire column full of outrage. Riiiigght.Delete
Meanwhile, I can’t locate a reference by Somerby to Carlson as a clown, stupid, or despicable, despite his culpability in furthering an anti-vaccine lie, a matter of life and death as Somerby says here.
What nonsense, 7:48.
Some people don't like having their time wasted by sticker bindis when they just want to be educatedDelete
Perhaps if Maddow was a gatekeeper you might have a sliver of a point; however, there is a wealth of serious-minded media: start on YouTube, start with Sam Seder, from there you will find a large amount of media from which to get educated.Delete
I can't say Seder does much for me although I probably agree with most of his politics. Propublica is probably the best reporting I've seen. I like "The Real News Network" and "Democracy Now" for serious journalism that's not mainstream. There's also a local one just for Chicago I follow.Delete
Mostly I like newspapers. Newspapers are corporate and have their issues but unlike cable media they try to be professionals.
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