FRIDAY, JUNE 28, 2024
A sacred alliance must die: We tried to tell you what you'd be seeing if you watched last evening's event.
You'd be watching an "imitation of life," we said. We mentioned that problem all week.
Along the way, we may have edited our own words at times. At one point, we'd written that you'd be seeing two "god-awful candidates."
We may have dropped that adjective. We don't exactly remember, and we aren't going to go back to check.
At any rate, this:
At 7:05 this morning, Mike Barnicle, appearing on Morning Joe, said this about Candidate Trump's performance:
"It was the worst debate performance in modern political history."
In fact, if you watched last evening's event, you saw the two worst debate performances in modern political history. Indeed, what you saw last night was so bad that they didn't even try to deceive you when they gathered the children to perform on MSNBC in the aftermath of the event.
Nicolle Wallace had been on the phone during the debate. Presumably, she had been speaking to the gaggle she describes, every day, as "some of our favorite reporters and friends."
She said that she'd been on the phone as the debacle took place. Moments after the session ended, this is what she told Rachel Maddow:
WALLACE (6/27/24): I was on the phone for some of it after that became clear and there is a conversation happening inside Biden circles and certainly a much more frank conversation happening inside the Democratic coalition. And I think there will be stories of a lot of concern about the performance tonight.
MADDOW: When you say "conversations happening," what do you mean?
WALLACE: I think people are talking—conversations range from whether he should be in this race tomorrow morning to what was wrong with him.
[...]
It is not our job to tell people what to see and hear, but I think what I heard from a Biden aide is, "We can't necessarily spin too much what people did see and hear."
It isn't their job to tell us what to see and hear? When did that change take place?
Below, we'll answer one of the questions Wallace cited. Instantly, Joy Reid added this:
REID: I too was on the phone throughout much of the debate—with ObamaWorld people, with Democrats, with people who are political operatives, campaign operatives. My phone never really stopped buzzing throughout. And the universal reaction was somewhere approaching panic.
The people who were texting with me were very concerned about President Biden seeming extremely feeble, seeming extremely weak...
As the evening moved toward midnight, the children began finding ways to soften these initial reactions, even if ever so slightly. But that's the way the gaggle spoke in the immediate aftermath of the event—after the most likely occurrence had in fact occurred.
As we've noted, we were surprised when the Biden campaign decided to do this debate. Based on what we'd seen in the course of the past year, we thought it was unlikely that the candidate would be able to perform in a normal way.
By 10:45 last night, even the usual favorites and friends were acknowledging what had happened. Weirdly but obediently, these people had been pretending that nothing was amiss right up through last night.
It isn't President Biden's fault that he has long seemed to be in the grips of some possible form of dementia. In our view, it isn't even Candidate Trump's fault that he seems to be in the grip of a severe psychiatric disorder of some kind.
That said, our imitation of a mainstream press corps has agreed, every step of the way, that neither of these apparent situations should ever be discussed. When Dr. Bandy X. Lee produced this New York Times best-seller, the book was disappeared:
The Dangerous Case of Donald Trump: 37 Psychiatrists and Mental Health Experts Assess a President
The best-selling book was disappeared. As for Dr. Lee, she was eventually fired by Yale.
We're not even saying the press corps was "wrong" in its avoidance of Dr. Lee's book. Given the childishness of our national discourse, it may be better that a blindingly obvious possibility has gone unexplored.
That said, the press corps has also agreed to disappear the obvious signs of President Biden's apparent affliction. They kept playing the troubling videotapes on the Fox News Channel—but the troubling pieces of videotape were disappeared everywhere else.
Last night, the situation which is easier to see could no longer be ignored. Like Captain Renault in Casablanca, Blue America's corporate "thought leaders" were shocked to learn that an apparent form of diminishment seemed to be well underway.
Are we humans "the rational animal?" Plainly, we are not.
We're more the reality denying animal—the animal which denies reality in packs. Along the way, we at this site have tried to describe the universe within which Blue America's insistence on denial has been operating in the course of the past year.
In our view, Blue America's corporate gaggle became almost wholly unwatchable in recent years. Instead, we took you back to the dawn of the west, when noble Hector offered this prophecy to Andromache, his generous wife:
For in my heart and soul I also know this well:
the day will come when sacred Troy must die,
Priam must die and all his people with him,
Priam who hurls the strong ash spear...
Somehow, Hector knew that sacred Troy was destined to die. In that same exchange, he said he hoped he would die in battle so he wouldn't have to see his generous wife forced to confront her own fate:
It is less the pain of the Trojans still to come
that weighs me down...
That is nothing, nothing beside your agony
when some brazen Argive hales you off in tears,
wrenching away your day of light and freedom!
Then far off in the land of Argos you must live,
laboring at a loom, at another woman's beck and call
fetching water at some spring, Messeis or Hyperia,
resisting it all the way, the rough yoke of necessity at your neck.
[...]
No, no,
let the earth come piling over my dead body
before I hear your cries, I hear you dragged away!
During the fall of sacred Troy, noble Hector's generous wife was in fact dragged away. Indeed, she was dragged away as a slave by Agamemnon himself.
Somehow, Hector was able to prophesy that. As to what may have been foreshadowed last night, we're willing to offer you this:
Sacred Troy must die, noble Hector said. So too, perhaps, with the western alliance—with the world order which has prevailed since 1945.
As sacred Troy was destined to die, so too, perhaps, with the global order as living Americans have known it. The long clown show which has led to this point has been underway for more than three decades, with career players like Wallace, Maddow, O'Donnell and Hayes paid to refuse to describe it.
One candidate has seemed to be in the grip of some form of dementia. The other candidate has long seemed to be severely mentally ill.
The corporate employees we're instructed to trust—"our favorite reporters and friends"—have agreed, every step of the way, that neither situation could ever be discussed. Meanwhile, on today's Morning Joe, they were keeping their childish war cry alive:
Lie lie lie lie lie lie lie lie lie lie lie lie lie!
One after another, the children all said it. More on that war cry next week.
We'll examine last night's events in more detail at that time. This morning, though, Mika was still saying this:
"I still believe in Joe Biden."
Full disclosure:
All in all, these are not especially insightful people. More often, they're simply people people.
In the end, there's nothing "wrong" with being people people. But if our species' history is any guide. the matter which has finally come to the fore may not turn out especially well.
It seems to me that the people looking for easy answers are calling the debate for Trump and calling for Biden to step aside. Those who are thinking about what happened recognize that Biden won the substantive portion of the debate (based on content of his answers) but had a cold and his voice didn't sound good. They see that as a temporary problem that can be overcome with hard work. They are also pointing to focus groups and Republican viewer statements that they are having doubts about voting for Trump. Some viewers were put off by Trump's obvious lying and disrespect for veterans, based on focus group responses.
ReplyDeleteMeanwhile, we are in the same position we were before the debate. Biden's slack jaw was no worse than the fake clips being circulated and he is already being called old, over and over, by the media. Viewing this as a bad debate due to Trump's tactics may help calm the hysteria on the left. A younger person might have had just as much difficulty dealing with Trump, says Heather Cox Richardson:
"A Flood of Lies
June 28, 2024 at 9:36 am EDT By Taegan Goddard [Political Wire]
Heather Cox Richardson: “This was not a debate. It was Trump using a technique that actually has a formal name, the Gish gallop, although I suspect he comes by it naturally. It’s a rhetorical technique in which someone throws out a fast string of lies, non-sequiturs, and specious arguments, so many that it is impossible to fact-check or rebut them in the amount of time it took to say them. Trying to figure out how to respond makes the opponent look confused, because they don’t know where to start grappling with the flood that has just hit them.”
“It is a form of gaslighting, and it is especially effective on someone with a stutter, as Biden has. It is similar to what Trump did to Biden during a debate in 2020. In that case, though, the lack of muting on the mics left Biden simply saying: “Will you shut up, man?” a comment that resonated with the audience. Giving Biden the enforced space to answer by killing the mic of the person not speaking tonight actually made the technique more effective.”
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Poor Anderson Cooper had to prompt Biden that he had more time to talk. What is the line between fragility and humility?
DeleteSorry it was Jake Tapper reminding him. You could see the pain in his eyes really.
DeleteTrump has very little truth memorized and Biden has very little of what he said a second ago memorized.
DeleteIt's impossible to predict when the opposing candidate might use an underhanded tactic like talking.
Deletetalking for Trump = lying
Deleteboth candidates were prompted that they had more time left, and both used that time to continue speaking
that was the moderator's job, not a Biden mistake
Tapper asked Trump questions. Trump spit back a torrent of bullshit in Tapper's face. And then Tapper would reply, "Thank you, Mr. President." It is fun watching a neutered political press.
Delete"We tried to tell you what you'd be seeing if you watched last evening's event.
ReplyDeleteYou'd be watching an "imitation of life," we said. We mentioned that problem all week."
Biden had a cold that made his voice sound harsh and made his replies difficult to hear and understand. If you paid attention, however, his substantive replies were true, responsive, and made sense (except for about 3 gaffes). He won the debate from the standpoint of content, because Trump mainly lied and dodged questions. In a sane world, everyone would be talking about Biden as the debate winner, but the TV plainly showed that Biden is old, so he can't win. It also showed the ugly side of Trump, especially his smirk and brazen disrespect for truth, but no one seems to care about that.
Somerby remains an asshole who refuses to discuss this topic seriously. We all would consider having a cold an imitation of life, but Somerby means this in his Nietzschian sense and won't discuss anything using normal vocabulary and reference points. He won't criticize Biden beyond his age because he doesn't deal substantively with any issues other than to say Biden hasn't addressed immigration (for example) when he plainly has done so. Just as he won't read his comments and thus can continue telling every untruth over and over, much as Trump did last night.
Even Trump never told us what is wrong with Biden's manifest accomplishments! And without that kind of criticism, I see no reason to abandon Biden in mid-stream as the fools on the left are doing today. Anyone can catch a cold, but not everyone can be president with the competence Biden has been demonstrating. I want Biden to continue to be my president and if he is hoarse or his mouth hangs open when he is shocked, how is that relevant to his accomplishments?
Trump needs to be put in jail, quickly. He showed us what a criminal looks like when he thinks he is untouchable and is planning to loot our nation again, given the chance. He was awful.
"not everyone can be president with the competence Biden has been demonstrating."
DeleteIt's not about being the president. It's about being a candidate for president.
No, it is about selecting the right person to BE president. They used to do it (before TV and radio) by publishing the candidates pre-written speeches side by side in local newspapers across the country. It seems likely that was a better way to do it than today's focus on celebrity and demand for entertainment via media.
DeleteTrump was on a reality show (The Apprentice), where he was trained to make the best use of a camera. Trump has always worn make-up off screen too. And yet, his chin looked pebbly, as though he fell flat into a gravel pit and dents remained. He leaned on the podium and was never square in the camera, always tilted. He sneered and smirked whenever he wasn't talking, and he appeared to be aggressively out for blood, not a statesman expressing his plans for a future term, but a bully hoping to grind Biden down with lies and shouting. He did appear to be prepped not to abuse the time limits, except for two times when he talked after the mic was shut off. He ignored the moderator's questions entirely. That isn't how any normal person debates, much less a serious politician.
I found myself wondering whether Trump's behavior might generate sympathy for Biden, who was, after all, speaking truth and taking the audience and his job as prospective leader seriously.
Trump also refrained from his usual whining. So, all of the gab about Trump blowing off debate prep is likely a lie to lower expectations for Trump and make him seem like someone who doesn't need to prepare (much as he claims not to need a teleprompter but cannot speak without one). Trump outran the claims of dementia, while Biden (who does not have dementia) appeared to be impaired. And that is because of ease and technique in front of the camera, not either man's health.
Biden has early signs of dementia and if that hurts to admit maybe you don't spend enough time with elderly people and instead only want the word to exist to hurt other people with.
DeleteTrump has later stage signs of dementia despite being younger. Plus he lies ALL the time.
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ReplyDeleteIt's not, perhaps, a bad strategy to replace him at the last moment, as the replacement figurehead will not have much negative ratings. And not enough time for the opposition to do their research and advertisement. Some Democrat "genius" must've come up with that idea.
Still, a bit risky.
There is the problem of name recognition with a new candidate. No one had as much support as Biden did the last time there was a large panel of candidates to choose from. Biden won and Harris was second. She would perhaps have the best chance of winning as a replacement, but she is black and female, which is a double whammy and it is too important that we beat Trump. None of the others has sufficient visibility or support from Democrats so have a good chance of beating Trump. We should be praying that Biden stays healthy, not looking for alternatives.
DeleteObama has name recognition. But betting sites point to Newsome. I don't know if it's a good idea: I'd guess he already has some serious negatives, and he is not from any swing state.
DeleteAlso, Kennedy has name recognition. But they probably dumped too much dirt on him by now. Plus, he doesn't seem like an obedient figurehead.
DeleteNewsom's name is spelled N-E-W-S-O-M. Misspelling his name is what right wingers do, and trolls. Suggesting he has negatives is what a troll does. The worst thing he has behind him is that he went to a restaurant during the covid lockdown.
DeleteRobert F. Kennedy is a joke. Democrats will not vote for him. The problem in 2020 was finding a Democratic candidate that would unite all kinds of Democrats (a more diverse group than Republicans, in my opinion). That was Biden's strength -- everyone could get behind him. Since then, he has proven to be more progressive than expected, so he would have greater support, if there were not this relentless attack on his age (without any screw ups to justify it) and the suggestion that young people won't stand for an old guy as leader (when who else do they ever have to vote for, relatively speaking?).
DeleteNewsome is the governor of the most troublesome state in the union, and it's getting worse every day.
Newsome's regime is so bad, that despite the greatest climate on earth, the ocean, plenty of land, and other natural wonders, middle-class people are leaving. Sad.
NEWSOM
DeleteI think personality cults actually require personality.
ReplyDeleteThe people who were on the phone seeking reactions while the debate was in progress are fools. They owed their public the courtesy of actually WATCHING and LISTENING TO what was said by both candidates DURING the debate itself. Otherwise, what do they have to base an opinion on? And if they were talking to party-level decision-makers, what were those people doing during the debate -- talking to them, obviously, and not listening either.
ReplyDeleteThat means that our high-level party movers and shakers were judging Biden based on appearance, his hoarse and difficult to understand voice (arising from a cold), his old white hair and lack of youthful animation. Shame on them! Biden did well in about 50% of his replies. His gaffes were corrected in real time. He was responsive to the questions in ways that Trump was not. Wallace and others will not know that because they were too busy talking about how awful he was.
Our party needs to respect Biden's solid presidency and support him as our incumbant. He has earned that right. If there is a temporary blip in polls (which do not usually change much due to televised debates in any election), we need to work harder to convince every undecided and swing voter that Trump is unacceptable and Biden has been doing a fine job as president -- because he has.
Do we want to agree with the pundits, that this is a country where success is based only on appearances and not on merit and accomplishmets?
DeletePaul Krugman thinks that Biden is the best president of his adult lifetime, as do I. Paul Krugman thinks that Biden should step down.
DeleteThat's fine to say, but who is Krugman saying should replace Biden on the ticket? Taylor Swift?
DeleteKrugman probably wants Krugman as the replacement.
Delete@10:47 I agree that Biden was more responsive to the questions. If this were a real debate, Biden might be the winner. But, it's more like a joint press conference. On that basis, Trump was the winner IMO.
DeleteResponding to the question is not the best strategy in these debates. By ignoring the question, Trump delivered the messages that he chose. People will remember Trump's key assertions, because he repeated them.
Might be? Trump did nothing but lie.
DeleteTrump was a continuous firehose of bullshit. LIES, every fucking thing that came out of his mouth. What message, Dickhead in Cal?
DeleteSo, what are the odds that Biden is replaced as candidate?
ReplyDeletezero probability, unless he has a stroke or dies
DeleteAre you available? With Cecelia as your running mate?
DeleteYou have to be an actual Democrat to run for president on the Democratic ticket.
DeleteI would not vote for myself as President. I'm too old now. And, I would be much too old 4 years from now when I would still be President.
DeleteTrump's age is one reason I'd prefer a different Republican nominee. Trump's character is another.
There are quite a few people in academia who are famous and still running their labs and writing papers and supervising grad students competently. Those with less accomplishment do retire, but then they play golf and travel instead of sitting home in a rocking chair, as you imagine David. Some go on until they are close to 100. Look at George H.W. Bush, the Clintons, Carter of course, and the many other elder statesmen (and women) who have been weighing in on this. Look at Clint Eastwood, who is 94 but was making oscar-nominated films in his 80s. With modern health care, longevity has changed and so has quality of life and preservation of mental functioning well into a time when people would have been long dead in other times. At 65, most people who do not do hard labor are still middle aged.
DeleteI am fine with you retiring David. You can start by watching more Fox News and leaving this blog alone. But I am not voting for you when I vote for Biden. He is a different person and probably has never been anything like you at any time in his life.
Has anyone considered that smart and attractive politician by the name of Kamala Harris? Perhaps, she might be available and willing.
DeleteI would vote for Hillary.
DeleteI would vote for AOC.
DeleteRomay Davis has died.
ReplyDeleteDiC - Core PCE 2.6% YoY. So, can we agree that inflation is no longer a talking point? (Like I said, it's time for Repubs to pivot to the deficit!)
ReplyDeleteUnless consumer prices go back to the 2020 level in the next few months, the inflation accumulated over the term of this regime is, and will always be, its problem.
DeleteConsumer prices were way up in 2020 because that was the year of covid lockdown and there were supply problems. Do you perhaps mean 2019? Inflation is now close to where it was pre-covid. Are you aware that inflation went up because of covid? It doesn't sound like it. In fact, it sounds like you pulled your comment out of your ass.
DeleteIn 2020, the average rate of inflation was 1.2%.
Deletehttps://www.investopedia.com/inflation-rate-by-year-7253832
George - there are two aspects of inflation -- economic and political. Politically I agree with @10:30. Biden will be blamed for the total amount of inflation during his entire term.
DeleteEconomically, a single month with a single favorable inflation figure is not enough to convince people that inflation is conquered. Especially since that figure doesn't even meet the 2% standard.
Three days ago Fed governor Bowman said it's too early to lower rates, but is prepared for further hikes if inflation worsens. That opinion is a outlier.
11:09 - Do you understand that 1.2% is TOO LOW? And that persistently under target rates were part of the reason the recovery from the Great Recession took more than a decade?
DeleteYou make a good point, George. IMO low inflation is not ideal, but high inflation is a bigger risk than low inflation. However, I am not an economist.
DeleteThe rate bounces around month to month. What the Fed wants is for it to bounce around its target of 2%. So - 2.2, 1.9, 2.1, 2.3, 1.9, etc. That's what we'd like to see. We're getting really, really close.
Delete2.6 is a just a hair too high; 1.2 is WAY too low.
"Do you understand that 1.2% is TOO LOW?"
DeleteNo, I don't. Apart from all the bullshit spewed by brain-dead economists, for a middle-class consumer or a retired person with fixed income, the lower the better.
10:56 - "Unless consumer prices go back to the 2020 level in the next few months"
DeleteDo you know what we would call it if prices fell to 2020 levels in a few months? We'd call it a "Depression."
12:00 - The inflation rate in 1932 was a minus 9.87%. How do you think that worked out for consumers and retirees?
DeleteNo, we definitely wouldn't call it a "Depression", if that was the only thing happening.
DeleteWhen, for example, prices of computer hardware or long-distance phone calls fell back in the day, that wasn't called a "Depression". It was called a "great thing for everybody".
Not for the sellers of computer hardware, who would receive less revenue, and would then lay off employees, who would buy less groceries. Grocery stores would then receive less revenue, and would lay off employees, etc.
DeleteLook, I am not arguing for price control or anything like that. All I said was this:
Delete"Unless consumer prices go back to the 2020 level in the next few months, the inflation accumulated over the term of this regime is, and will always be, its problem."
I agree that it's extremely unlikely that prices will fall. It won't happen. So, the 2021-24 inflation (35% or so in food prices?) will always remain a characteristic of the Biden administration. That's all.
You may consider it a minor characteristic, and some others may consider it the defending economic characteristic. That's a matter of opinion.
The Fed didn't raise interests to fight inflation (though that's how they sold it). The Fed raised interest rates to slow down the economy, because employees had too much leverage over employers.
Delete"As we've been noting at this site, a similar assault is now underway each and every night.
ReplyDeleteThe New York Times averts its gaze. Enjoying a higher station in life, they won't discuss that either!"
Somerby has this wrong, as usual. The New York Times is not averting its gaze. It has been joining in the assault on Biden, every day, with an unrelenting stream of negative articles (not all editorials) about how Biden cannot win, should not win, has no support from [ ] (fill in young people, gen Z, Hispanics, blacks, dog and cat owners, etc), and is behind in the polls (even after the polls have trended in Biden's favor). The NY Times does not support Biden and now they have an excuse to write an editorial begging the party to find someone else -- which WILL throw the election to Trump. No focus at all on Biden's accomplishments and no focus on Trump's wrongdoing other than reaction pieces telling us that Trump is upset about the attacks on him.
Somerby has not said a positive thing about Biden since he first ran against Trump in 2020.
Bidens synapses don't support the English language.
DeleteJoseph forgot what he said halfway through most sentences. It's basically elder abuse at this point to vote for him to be president.
DeleteHere is the part where I say "I told you so..." And now the NY Times has printed an editorial calling for Biden to step aside. As predicted. Maybe I should change my name to Cassandra and ask Somerby to step aside?
Delete11:29,
DeleteI missed the debate. What did Biden do? Rant about the nation's imaginary epidemic of post-birth abortions?
Credit where it's due, both this blog and Ezra Klein clocked Biden as not being ready for this. Biden himself had also been leaking that he didn't want to go through with it.
ReplyDeleteThese people were shouted down as being overly pessimistic and enemy sympathisers.
Yes. I would hope that some might take this as an eye-opening experience. Perhaps Somerby has not been paid by Putin to spout right-wing talking points. Maybe he's been trying to warn us.
Delete"We at this site have tried to describe the universe within which Blue America's insistence on denial has been operating in the course of the past year."
DeleteIt's so true. The "shouting down" and "insistence on denial" cult was so effective for such a long time and last night it ran into a brick wall. It will be very interesting to see the fallout. Biden is toast. It wasn't a "cold" and he won't be getting it better. It's over. If he runs, Trump wins. Probably in a landslide. The cult can shout that down and insist on denying it - if they want. But that fair has moved on. Trump is going to be the next president, unless they find a way to kill him. The salient issue is if the cult of "shouting down" and "insistence on denial", which starts at the very top of the Blue hierarchy, will come to terms with what that tactic has wrought.
And yet he was already better in North Carolina.
Delete"Biden is toast" is what our media is saying. Not sure why. He wasn't the one who ranted about the nation's imaginary post-birth abortion epidemic.
DeleteMaybe if we didn't all hide our old people in nursing homes we would remember some of them can't hold conversations well anymore.
ReplyDeleteI honestly don't think it's a coincidence that so many Jewish people resigned from the Bidens administration and he's aging so quicky. A culture that values wisdom of elders knows when the ship is sinking.
What was wrong with Biden? Here is another perspective, from Yastreblansky:
ReplyDelete"John Ganz:
Still, there’s a lot of time before the election. Maybe Biden will spring miraculously back to life and thrash Trump in a later debate. Maybe one day we will all laugh about how everyone pissed their pants. But then again, maybe not. God does have a sense of humor, but it often seems at our expense. [end Ganz quote]
He sprang back to life the minute it was over, at least if your TV was tuned to MSNBC, which showed him glad-handing the entourage and giving a brief improvised speech. Even his voice was back. He was a happy warrior. He looked positively joyous.
The commentators don't seem to know what was wrong with Biden during the "debate", but it was obvious to me in the first, and as it turned out only, sentences I typed about him in the notes I started taking:
Biden seems pretty nervous, his voice is so hoarse and he's speaking so fast it's not fully intelligible. Better in the follow up when he's not reciting from memory.
(I took more notes after that, but they were all about Trump’s stunning torrent of lies and misdirections.)
Performance anxiety. Stage fright. Le trac. Lampenfieber ("spotlight fever"). He's not really good at this bizarre ritual of American politics, though most of the time he's good enough. It's what sunk him in his first presidential run 36 years ago (he was talking too fast then too, spitting out memorized bits of his stump speech, which included those quotes from the UK Labour leader Neil Kinnock, and he left out Kinnock's name in the rush, leading the press to accuse him, ridiculously, of plagiarism, as if they hadn't heard him attributing the material a dozen times before), and the memory of that failure only serves to make it worse. It has little or nothing to do with his age!"
https://yastreblyansky.substack.com/p/lampenfieber
Whoever wrote that is in denial.
DeleteOr perhaps he saw and heard what he describes?
DeleteHow can the word maybe be denial?
DeleteWhen people are in denial, they might say what they saw and heard correctly, but they think about it in a way that fits what they already believe or feel. This helps them ignore or downplay what really happened.
DeleteLast night, Biden lost the election. I guess the writer above needs some time to come to terms with that.
12:07: By saying "maybe," a person can create a sense of uncertainty or doubt about something that is actually clear or definite.
DeleteI would call it selective memory. He's accepting half of the experience as evidence.
DeleteThe only reason I doubt that he's in denial is, I think he might be aware that even pretending to wonder if he's wrong is a bridge too far, and ultimately, this essay is a way to signal he's crying for help.
Delete12:02 is using a fallacy called the view from nowhere. That there are no inner interpretations added to meaning and feeling of the writing.
DeleteNothing can beat a good fallacy.
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Vegas odds Wednesday:
ReplyDeleteTrump 54.55%
Biden 44.44%
Vegas odds today:
Donald Trump: 62.5%
Joe Biden: 20%
There are murmurs that Biden will step aside. He must.
ReplyDeleteWhat if they would prefer 4 more years to look?
DeleteSince the Democrats are the party of working people why don't they just grab one of their union leaders?
DeleteYou need actual qualifications to be president. Didn’t you learn that with Trump?
DeleteThe Boston Globe has given full-throated support to Biden and has been full-throated anti-MAGA. It's almost all-Woke. On the top of the front-page headline today it says "In first debate, Biden's struggles raise doubts as Trump stretches the truth." (More accurately it could have said " as Trump mutilates of the Truth"). The report says this - "Ninety excruciating minutes later [after the two came out on the stage] Biden left the stage having sparked more doubts about his candidacy than at any other point in the 2024 campaign. It wasn't just that Biden sounded hoarse. Or that he frequently lost his train of thought. Or that he made factual errors and outlandish misstatements. What was most striking was how often Biden let slide Trump's own arguments, which he frequently included factually inaccurate statements., how little he pushed back against Trump's framing of issues, and how few opportunities he took to put his opponent on the defensive." It gets worse from there.
ReplyDeleteNo Democrat uses the word "woke" as a pejorative, the way you do. Biden had a bad debate, for explainable reasons (having a cold). Obama had a bad first debate too. Trump was terrible, so the story should not be solely about Biden.
DeleteFirst, if Biden had a cold last night, how come he showed zero effects of it in North Carolina today?
DeleteSecond, no 'cold' could account for the emptied out shell of a man we saw in the debate.
Then what accounts for the difference in performance between the debate and North Carolina?
DeleteI had a woke pebble in my shoe the other day.
DeleteLast night was painful but needed. Now Biden has, probably, a couple of weeks to try to fix the damage (ironically, he was the one who really needed a crowd; today he showed how much it helps him, as it did for the SOTU; Trump is used to interacting with a camera). During these same two weeks or so, we get to learn how people saw the two of them, and what they make of that (and we can only hope the media - and other elected Democrats - will track this). Democracy requires winning elections, then governing. Gore and Hillary (I love them both) had more problems with the first than they would have with the latter. This is now a test for Biden and the party: figure out how to win from here. If Biden bows out (not likely, not impossible), Harris will pick a new VP and they will campaign like hell. If he doesn't, it should be because of showing quick success with voters making it matter sufficiently less that he's a very old man. Trump may well have helped with that last night.
ReplyDeleteYou left off 'feeble-minded'. Biden is a very old, feeble-minded man.
DeleteAnd I think 'selfish' should be part of that description, too.
This is not about Biden. Or at least it shouldn't be. It's about the Democrat party. Obviously, they want a figurehead president, who won't interfere with their insane technocratic M.O. aka the "deep state". Extremely dangerous, imo.
DeleteSo the question of whether to oust Biden isn't about Biden. Insane, indeed.
DeleteThe question is not whether to oust Biden. Who cares whether it's Biden or some equally irrelevant Schmiden. Like Kamila, or what's her name. People like Bob Somerby will vote for him/her whoever they are.
DeletePeople like me will vote for Biden, also. I'll take feeble-mindedness over narcissist/fascist/doofusist any day.
DeleteWith good reason, Fox cuts away from Trump speeches. In a binary choice, exposure to him clarifies ambivalence toward Biden as passive endorsement of Trump. Trump remains Biden's most effective surrogate.
DeleteI agree David Stein. And, Biden is Trump's most effective surrogate. I cannot remember an election in my lifetime where both candidates were perceived as such poor choices.
DeleteGood point. The winner will be the guy less hated by more people. Fitting, after all the stupid talk about not accepting the lesser of two evils.
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Delete@Hector 7:48 PM
"I'll take feeble-mindedness over narcissist/fascist/doofusist any day."
Iow, if we remove tendentious phrasing, you'll take the multi-national globalist pro-war side over a pro-domestic (MAGA) model.
Sure, if that's your choice, go for it. It's even possible (albeit unlikely) that you're benefiting from it. Or you're expecting to benefit from it, anyhow.
Everyone who believes Trump is not a globalist, please send me your checking account number, I wish to deposit $1 million from a Nigerian prince.
DeleteThere is no reason why Biden should be perceived as a poor choice when he has been (and still is) such a good president.
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DeleteLanguage can be both tendentious and true.
Debating skill is not that important for a President. Much more important are his policies.
ReplyDeleteIMO by next week, some other story will be dominating the headlines --- maybe Hamas. Maybe Hezbollah. Maybe a big hurricane. The point is, Biden's performance in this debate will fade in public interest. If Biden simply forges ahead with campaign appearances, ads, etc., I think he can continue as candidate.