MONDAY, NOVEMBER 11, 2024
We'll never be able to see it: Down below, we'll get to what Tim Alberta said.
First, though, let's set the stage with such manifestations as this:
We've long been amazed by the way Blue America's journalistic elites continue to shower Saturday Night Live with cultural respect.
In our view, the program rolled over and died decades ago. But at The Atlantic, they keep assigning writers–at last one with a PhD–to critique its routinely vapid presentations.
This past Saturday night, the program opened with this remark, twenty seconds in:
COLD OPEN (11/9/24): Donald Trump, who tried to forcibly overturn the results of the last election, was returned to office by an overwhelming majority.
Was Donald J. Trump elected to office "by an overwhelming majority?" Also, within the norms of human culture, does anyone even care whether such statements make sense?
On Saturday night, SNL opened with that assertion, This very morning, Morning Joe opened, at 6 o'clock sharp, with the videotape of that statement.
Before we got see Mika or Joe, we Morning Joe viewers saw SNL make that assertion. In such ways, Storyline starts.
Below, we'll look at where the nationwide vote currently stands. First, though, consider some of what happened when the longest-running show in television history made an attempt to assess last week's event.
Long ago and far away, five blind men groped different parts of an elephant. The leading authority on this event thumbnails it as shown:
Blind men and an elephant
The parable of the blind men and an elephant is a story of a group of blind men who have never come across an elephant before and who learn and imagine what the elephant is like by touching it. Each blind man feels a different part of the animal's body, but only one part, such as the side or the tusk. They then describe the animal based on their limited experience and their descriptions of the elephant are different from each other. In some versions, they come to suspect that the other person is dishonest and they come to blows.
The moral of the parable is that humans have a tendency to claim absolute truth based on their limited, subjective experience as they ignore other people's limited, subjective experiences which may be equally true.
The parable originated in the ancient Indian subcontinent, from where it has been widely diffused.
That instructive event took place in the distant past. In an unrelated development, Kristen Welker welcomed four guests to her roundtable segment on yesterday's Meet the Press.
As Storyline continued to grow, the panelists started by marveling at the size of Tuesday's win:
WELKER (11/10/24) Garrett, let me start with you. You've been covering the Trump campaign from the very beginning. I spoke to President-elect Trump. He believes he's got a mandate after this decisive victory. What are you hearing from inside the campaign and your sources?
HAAKE: Yeah, look, his team really feels vindicated. They had a theory of the case—it proved out. They won big, they won bigger than I think even some of them anticipated that they would. And they see their mandate as really broad...
WELKER: We saw a pattern-shattering event.
AMY WALTER: Yeah, this was a big–yeah, it was. And it was a big win, it was a decisive win. But I also like to sometimes step away from the numbers.
WELKER: Yeah, please step away.
Full disclosure! When Storyline is starting to form, we humans will almost always be encouraged to "step away from the numbers." In the end, it's largely the way we humans are wired–the way our species is built.
In fairness, it may be just as well. A bit later, here's what happened when another panelist brought some numbers in.
Storyline continued to grow, but with respect to the numbers, do you really understand what she said?
MARIA TERESA KUMAR: I mean, the party of the people did not turn out the people. And to give you a perfect example. In Texas–
In Texas, we saw record voter registration turnout. But then, those folks didn't come out. It was down 6 percent.
In Philadelphia, where it's 70 percent African-American, their turnout rate was 6 percent down from 2020.
Do you know what those numbers mean? We aren't sure we do. Something was "down 6 percent" in Texas. We're not entirely sure what it was.
Meanwhile, did "the party of the people" fail to "turn out the people?" That's a very fuzzy claim, but it's emerging as Storyline as the days slide past.
In yesterday's report, we showed you some basic numbers. In the battleground states–the only states which actually mattered–the total vote for Candidate Harris seems to have matched the total vote for Candidate Biden back in 2020.
In those states, Candidate Harris matched or possibly topped Candidate Biden's vote. But through whatever means, Candidate Trump's total vote exceeded his total from 2020–unless you were watching Friday's Morning Joe, in which case you were told that Candidate Trump had lost four million votes!
This is the way we humans tend to function when it comes time to explain. For the record, many of the observers in question did in fact go to the finest schools. Simply put, this is simply what we "rational animals" are secretly like.
Where do the vote totals stand today? Nationwide, the winning candidate's victory margin is sliding toward two percentage points.
Many votes still have to be counted. Mainly, those votes will come from a set of Blue America's west coast's states, California chief among them.
CNN has it like this, with many votes still unreported:
Nationwide vote, 2024 (to date):
Candidate Trump: 74,675,379 (50.3%)
Candidate Harris: 71,146,680 (48.0%)
That victory margin is likely to shrink as unreported votes get counted.
Keeping that in mind, is it true? Did Candidate Trump "win bigger than even some of his aides anticipated?" If so, riddle us this:
Just how narrow did Trump's aides think his win was going to be?
What lessons should we the people take from this year's outcome? In many ways, there are as many lessons to take as there are pundits to draw them.
The blind men felt different parts of an elephant. Our pundits have emerged at the New York Times (and elsewhere) with their mitts on hobbyhorses.
That said, we'll start our weeks of review with this. In some ways, the most striking account we've seen was offered by Tim Alberta.
There he sat, on Washington Week–and he's long been anti-Trump. In the excerpt shown below, he spoke with Jeffrey Goldberg
Alberta has long been anti-Trump–but he isn't part of our Blue American tribe. This failure to belong to our tribe permitted him to see what he saw, and also to say this:
ALBERTA (11/8/24): As someone who has spilled a lot of ink on Donald Trump's lies over the past decade–
GOLDBERG: A couple of books worth.
ALBERTA: –a couple of books worth, I just want to say this when we talk about propaganda. Arguably, the three most determinative things in this election were propaganda from the Democratic Party.
Number one: "Joe Biden is fine and totally fit to be president for another four years."
He wasn't.
Number two: "The border is closed. It's under control. There's nobody coming in."
That was not true.
And number three: "Hey, don't worry about inflation. Prices are fine. Bidenomics! Everything's great. You guys don't know what you're talking about. Actually, the economy is in great shape."
This is propaganda to millions of Americans who said, "None of that is true, and therefore, I don't trust you."
They might not trust Trump, but they don't trust Democrats either.
Let's sidestep the word "propaganda." Arguably, were those alleged presentations by Democrats the three most determinative things in this year's election?
Arguably, we'd have to say that they may have been! They don't exhaust the long list of "determinative things," but they represent an obvious place to start.
Did those of us in Blue America earn our way out this year? We'd be inclined to say that we pretty much did, but we'd quickly add this:
Given the way we humans are wired, those of us in Blue America will never be able to see this! We'll be strongly inclined to deny the obvious every step of the way, in much the way our neighbors and friends in Red America have persistently done.
Did Blue America earn its way out? We'd say that process started a long time ago. By pure coincidence, we were physically present–we were right there on the scene–when this destructive practice got its unfortunate start.
It seems to us that we earned our way out! But given the way our species is built, will we ever be able to see it?
Tomorrow: Whatever seems to come next in this very long trail of tears
Swing voters said the child abuse Democrats have embraced (poisoning and mutilating children but telling them they're "changing sex") was the top issue for them, topping the economy and immigration. The ad showing Kamala promoting funding these for prisoners ran constantly and for many voters this election was the first exposure to this twisted mentality of Democrats.
ReplyDeleteTrump administration ‘signed off’ on sex-change surgeries for transgender prisoners
DeleteOfficials in the justice department gave the green light to procedures in 2018 while Donald Trump was in the White House
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/us/politics/2024/10/17/trump-signed-off-trans-prisoner/
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As i said, maggots are very ignorant and easily manipulated.
Fake news, that is not the top issue for swing voters, and swing voters were not even determinative in this election.
DeleteProhibiting children from being able to express their preferred gender is in fact child abuse.
9:47 is a wounded and troubled lost soul, let's all pray they can find enough peace so that they do not hurt themselves, or others.
Anonymouse 10:12am, was that info widely reported or widely used in Biden’s campaign messaging considering that it also took a rock out of your hand?
DeleteOh look the dumb fuck man that pretends to be a woman has typed some words.
DeleteLikely Cecelia would like his word salad to be tossed.
What a stupid dumb fucking moron!
At any rate, appreciate the laugh at your expense.
Anonymouse 10:40am, so you got my point.
DeleteThis created more than a few transpartisan voters.
DeleteDid it get reported? 10:12 showed you a report. Meanwhile, the lies about it on the right were spread all over right wing media. In a functioning democracy, the public needs to try to be well informed and not lied to. The right wing have chosen lies. It isn’t clear how to combat this. Truth tellers can’t force people to care about facts.
DeleteSo it wasn’t widely reported or used as a pro or con talking point against the Trump Admin. Why, oh, why?
Delete11:47,
DeleteNot only was the economy not the most important thing for those who voted for Trump, it turns out it wasn't a thing for those who voted for Trump at all.
Again, the only two things Trump voters really care about, are bigotry and white supremacy. The rest is bullshit that can be negotiated away in a bargain to get those two things.
Acting as if this is't the 100% truth, is costing Democrats at the voting booth.
Anyone who says there is a Trump voter who knows anything about economics, needs to be ignored. There is nothing to learn from people who lie about such things.
DeleteIt's one thing to have a headline saying 'Trump ADMIN signed off on sex change surgeries', it's another thing to have video of the candidate herself arguing forcefully for the right to such surgeries.
DeleteThe Dems couldn't bring up the Trump policy because it would only have highlighted Kamala's much more pronounced support.
Trump can't be held responsible for something done in his administration.
DeleteWhat next, holding Trump voters responsible for the things they do in voting booths?
Pshaw.
"Oh look the dumb fuck man that pretends to be a woman has typed some words."
DeleteWhatever happened to our progressive scold who loves to ferret out rampant sexism?
They learned what the American voter really wants, and decided not to rock the boat anymore.
Delete"Swing voters said the child abuse Democrats have embraced (poisoning and mutilating children but telling them they're "changing sex") was the top issue for them, topping the economy and immigration."
DeleteOh?
Evidence or you're making it up.
I think our OP, @9:47 read something from Outkick and failed to understand it. An article there says "cultural issues" came in third on a list of Trump voters' concerns (after the economy and immigration), and that transgender issues were the top concern within that category.
DeleteConsidering population growth, Somerby's analysis today is grossly ignorant and incompetent.
ReplyDeleteIn that context, Trump indeed did not gain support, and apparently lost some support.
Trump voters do not utilize mail in ballots, but Dems do, when it is available.
Harris lost primarily because mail in ballots are not universal, and secondarily due to how pervasive racism and sexism runs through our society.
Somerby seems to want you to think that because Dems/corporate media do not understand what motivates Trump voters, that that somehow lost Harris election. This is an incoherent and nonsensical assertion offered without any credible evidence.
Dems do in fact understand what motivates Trump voters, and furthermore those three "things" offered by Alberta are complete strawmen.
Somerby starts out today with a story, and seems to then extrapolate a truism about human nature from the made up story; however, in reality, humans do not merely rely on limited knowledge to then assert absolute truths - yes, Somerby does do this, but humans, broadly, do not. In fact humans do just the opposite, indeed it is how we have become one of the most successful species on the planet. Duh.
Somerby relies on stories to make sweeping conclusions, but they are false conclusions, because storytelling, while good at providing emotional comfort to some, is a bad basis for understanding human nature. Somerby can not be bothered to put in the effort to learn science, so he blindly pontificates by pulling crap out of his ass.
Anonymouse 10:14am, no, Einstein, I think Bob is suggesting that you and the media shouldn't rhetorically hand Trump a landslide when it might not have been one.
DeleteWhat difference does it make?
Delete10:48 forgot the part about W claiming a mandate in 2000 while playing Bob Whisperer.
DeleteParra Salen, are you endorsing that move by Bush? It would seem that this history would make you all the more insistent that such claims are disputed until by the final count is out.
DeleteAnonymouse 6:56pm, there is a distinction between you reflexively arguing against anything Somerby says, from someone who is eager to gather the facts before PUBLIC opinion is swayed in favor of a non-existent overwhelming Trump victory that justifiably opposes Democratic pushback
DeleteThat difference is that the other person is cognitive and you are dumb as a brick.
Don’t care for your election analysis, but agree with you on SNL It has not been funny for 2 decades and it’s mostly tedious Dem propaganda crap. So much comedy material in Kamala’s word salads, but all they would do is Dramala/Momala. Just like during Obama years, the “jokes” will be how great he is and stupid others are.
ReplyDeleteThey made plenty of fun of Bill Clinton. A horn dog Clinton impersonation was a staple of numerous cast members. The Gore impression, where he came across as a mincing know it all, was also common.
DeleteThey were unkind to Hillary when she ran.
DeleteAside from any remaining undecided races, there is no point in obsessing over the numbers. We are now stuck with Trump (or Vance) until 2028. Our focus now should be on mitigating the damage arising from Trump's administration. I find it odd that Somerby remains focused solely on looking backward when the main goal of Democrats is accepting the loss and moving forward.
ReplyDeleteHarris has become irrelevant, except in terms of making her own decisions about her future. I really dislike the way trolls here are continuing to hammer away at Democrats when they should be taking a more inclusive stance. Somerby is apparently irrelevant too, since he cannot find anything to talk about today except how close the race was.
Anonymouse 11:59am, so now that you finally understand Bob’s point, you’re discounting it by saying it’s unimportant if the public thinks that Trump has a huge mandate.
DeleteThe right wing will be told Trump has a mandate, and will listen to no one else, regardless of what non right wing media says. The GOP will act as if it was a landslide. Get THEM to quit reporting it that way. Won’t happen. Bush declared he had a mandate when he barely won in 2000, so it’s par for the GOP course.
DeleteAnonymouse 11:59am, Harris shouldn’t be irrelevant. She raised a billion dollars and is now 20 million in the red. That needs an examination as to intellectual skills of Harris’ DNC overlords
DeleteAnonymouse 12:08pm, the conservative media is Fox News and pod-casters. Youre arguing that it’s no big deal if the rest of the media frames things advantageously for Trump. You do this solely because you must write something…anything..that counters Bob.
DeleteI’m sorry that asininity is part of your job description, but it doesnt have to be his.
12:18: The right wing has a vast network of propaganda operatives. The left does not. It’s ridiculous to assert otherwise.
DeleteVance publicly admitted lying about the Haitians.
There may be a legitimate issue regarding immigration, but public discourse is not served by lying about it. You voted for a man whose VP acknowledged lying, and who(Trump) you portray as delusional enough to believe lies. It’s not all the fault of Democrats, much as it feels good for you to reject all responsibility.
Yes, whatever you say, Mr. Soros. You're not delusional at all, Mr. Soros.
DeleteAnonymouse 2:06pm, why are you still yabbering about the right wing media in the context of Bob scolding the mainstream media for presuming that Trump has a mandate before all the votes are counted?
DeleteAre you really arguing that Bob shouldn’t be complaining if the mainstream media helps Trump because the right wing already helps him? Or somethin’….?
Yeah, well. Mandate, no mandate. Doesn't really matter. Trump has the White House, the GOP has the Senate and, most likely, the House. The candidates for Senate Majority Leader are already signalling complete abdication of the upper chamber's power to provide advice and consent on presidential appointments.
DeleteTrump either has a mandate or he will act as though he does.
There will be less emphasis on identity politics.
DeleteNot at the grassroots level.
DeleteIt would have been nice for the media to ask Trump how he plans to pay for all the genital inspectors he'll be bringing into schools.
ReplyDeleteTrump will do the inspections himself. His teeny, tiny hands have loads of experience inspecting the genitals of school-age children from his Jefrey Epstein weekends.
DeleteWith or without a mandate, people think Trump will hit the ground running, with a bunch of popular executive orders, such as
ReplyDelete- Cancel the electric vehicle mandate
- Use the threat of tariffs to force Mexico to cooperate, and close the border.
- Start deporting illegal immigrants
-- End the government from using illegal racially discriminatory programs, such as DEI.
-- Plan a 250 year anniversary celebration for the US
- ban schools from promoting critical race theory or transgender insanity
The list doesn't include establishing concentration camps, prosecuting Kamala Harris, declaring an end to free speech banning abortions', or other nonsense that Trump opponents pretended to believe.
https://justthenews.com/politics-policy/wkdtrumps-day-one-dictatorship-look-his-opening-moves-wh
You forgot abortion on demand.
Delete"close the border"
DeleteLOL.
He kept it wide open during his last four year term. What makes you think he won't leave it open again?
You forgot abortion on demand.
DeleteAlso, abortion after birth. That will finally stop!
David -- you do realize that some of the things you mention are made up of whole cloth, right? Also, mass deportation will cost hundreds of billions and will destroy the economy. Let's face it, real Americans are too lazy and stupid to do most of important jobs. Unless we are prepared to be buying PowerPoint marketing presentations in the grocery aisles...
My prediction: there will be no deportations. Saner minds will prevail, once they understand the incredibly difficult logistics involved.
Only a fool, like David in Cal, would think Trump is going to cut-off cheap labor from the corporate elite who rule him.
DeleteHe had his chance from 2017-2021 and instead, he kept our borders wide open.
"a 250 year anniversary celebration for the US"
DeleteA big parade with flags and tanks and lots of saluting!
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Delete"The list doesn't include...prosecuting Kamala Harris....or other nonsense Trump opponents pretended to believe."
DeleteThose dopy Trump opponents. Where do they get their crazy notions?
"At a September rally in Pennsylvania, Trump said Harris was responsible for the "biggest crime story of our time," referring to illegal border crossings..."She should be impeached and prosecuted for her actions," Trump said."
https://www.reuters.com/world/us/trumps-threats-prosecute-opponents-election-workers-google-2024-10-30/
The media and Democratic operatives tried to scare voters by taking things Trump said out of context, or misquoting things he said. It was crazy. They really wanted voters to believe Trump was going to prosecute Harris or that he would have Liz Cheney executed. It was pathetic and sad, really. It was last gasps of political operatives trying to scare people through the mainstream media. And it didn't move voters in large numbers at all. It did affect some, like the idiot Hector though.
DeleteI wonder how his new sponsor...errr, patriot best buddy Elon Musk will advise him on that EV mandate.
DeleteHere's a prediction:
DeleteThe GOP has pointed to the number of border encounters by the border patrol as evidence of Biden's supposed "open" borders. If the number of encounters increases under Trump, they will promote that as proof that Biden was letting migrants cross undetected. If the number of encounters decreases, that will show that mighty daddy Trump has effectively sealed the border.
Any movement in the number will be heralded as a great win for our Great Leader.
Quaker - all political parties frame any outcome as a validation of their position. Since the dawn of time. So ho fucking hum to this prediction.
Delete@6:18
DeleteBless your little sunshiney heart.
@DiC
DeleteIf you're right, then Trump is about to step on his own Arnold Pamer.
As noted, the EV mandate benefits one of Trump's biggest fincial backers.
Tariffs on Mexican goods runs afoul of one of Trump's boasted first-term achievements, UMSCA.
"Start" deportations? You might mean to say expedite deportations. Ihey didn't stop under Biden.
"Illegal" discriminatory programs like DEI? There are many things one might say about DEI, but those programs have never been found to be illegal. I'm sure he'll dismantle anything that promotes minority advancement in the federal goverment. Anything beyond that will be a time-consuming quagmire.
Plan a big party? Hamberders for everybody! Woohoo!
Ban schools from...? I'm gonna stop right there. No one is promoting CRT. He could declare victory on that tomorrow morning. Transgender "insanity"? If he backs off his intention to eliminate the Education Department, he might have a few pro forma orders issued. Otherwise, the schools belong to the states. The most he can do is stop punishing red states for discriminating against trans kids.
If those are the early actions you're counting on, prepare to be underwhelmed.
I'm just saying you're uninteresting and lack insight.
DeleteYou do know that, don't you? That you're not especially smart or interesting?
DeleteExcuse the lousy typing. A little dog is napping on my lap and I have to hold my keyboard with one hand while typing with the other.
Delete@6:18 7:01 7:02
DeleteAnd yet here you are, replying to my every word. Are you seeking my attention? Tell me why.
No, I was just wondering if you were aware that you are not interesting. I think maybe you think that you are.
DeleteI mean, 'Hey guys - I predict a political party will use 'heads I win, tails you lose' logic to spin an issue'.
DeleteDo you realize how banal and uninteresting that is?
Why don't you post something original and interesting?
It's so boring. Using sarcasm all the time. It's drop dead boring. Do you not realize that?
DeleteWhy can't you state things directly and only state things when you have something interesting to say?
DeleteHow did you get to be so boring? I'm just wondering. For all I know you think you're really smart and interesting.
I will say you have made some interesting comments. One or two over the last year. It's not all that bad. Don't feel bad. But on the whole it's very boring boilerplate. Very boring. But if it pleases you, I guess you should continue. But it's not interesting or insightful. And it's not presented in an interesting way.
DeleteYour commentary is so boring, banal and lacking in insight and originality, you could run a successful circa 2004 liberal blog! Go for it!
DeleteI bet you don't know it's uninteresting and boring. Maybe it is interesting to you. To be sarcastic and flippant, framing everything in a negative way without adding any new insight. It's maybe all you know. It's interesting.
DeleteMeaning, the way we've come to communicate is interesting. With sarcasm and in an unserious, negative way. All over matters over which we hardly have any control or really have actual deep knowledge if we are honest with ourselves.
DeleteSpeaking of boring, how many more of these drizzly posts are you going to make?
Delete"They really wanted voters to believe Trump was going to prosecute Harris"
DeleteYou have to be exceptionally unconcerned with the truth to write something like that. Not only does he want her prosecuted, he said he wanted her impeached first.
https://fortune.com/2024/09/29/donald-trump-prosecution-kamala-harris-political-enemies-list-google-meta/
Sorry 4:58, I just read your post and I realize now Trump can't be held accountable for things he says in the 'context' of getting the yahoos into a lather.
DeleteDo you really think Trump will prosecute Harris? You feel like that is a credible concern moving forward?
DeleteYou can hold him accountable if you think it's a real concern. Do you think he is going to put Liz Cheney in front of a shooting squad? Do you think he is going to put journalists in camps? If you believe that you can and should hold him into account. But that would just be displaying your idiocy.
DeleteYou are stupid. There's nothing else to say.
DeleteYou should try to work your way up to simply being boring, like Quakerpants.
DeleteI don't try to predict Trump's behavior.
DeleteMy point was he said he would. Do words have meanings? How then do we know when Trump means something and when he doesn't?
And if you don't know when a candidate means something he says, on what basis do you decide to vote for him or not? What kind of democracy are you left with?
Do words have meanings?
DeleteYes. Political language is not always literal, particularly during campaigns.An intelligent person would take into account Trump’s characteristic rhetorical style and differentiate between “should be prosecuted,” and a concrete plan to do so.
How do we know when Trump means something and when he doesn't?
By looking at his past statements and actions or lack of actions based on them. And using one's common sense.
If you don’t know when a candidate means something he says, on what basis do you decide to vote for him or not?
Candidates are historically not always sincere or consistent. Voters look at a candidate’s track record, past actions, and credibility over time.
What kind of democracy are you left with?
Who cares? You're stupid and boring as fuck. Go fuck yourself.
Q: What kind of democracy are you left with?
DeleteA: Who cares?
MAGA has spoken.
Go hide under a table and await Liz Cheney's violent death at the hands of Trump's henchmen. Fucking dumb fucking moron. It's so no wonder Dems lost. It is this exact bullshit that lost them voters. Ordinary voters out there are not stupid enough to pretend like they are scared that everything Trump says will be enacted. They are not as stupid as you.
DeleteHector - what kind of democracy do we have now?
DeleteBut "he said he would" therefore ... he will. He didn't even say he would. He said that she "should" you fucking completly stupid dumb shit.
DeleteI'm sorry if my calling you a yahoo has upset you. I thought you could tell I didn't mean it.
DeleteThis is the exact level of intelligence and reasoning that drove people away from the Democratic party. Your reasoning here like a baby. Like a child. You don't even realize how stupid your reasoning is. You're caught in this fucking trap of crazy DNC propaganda. And it's like the pet snake that the owner stopped feeding. The whole project has eaten itself. It's fascinating. They created this rhetorical framework of bullshit and gaslighting that had some sort of efficacy in some way where they would scare people with completely illogical and irrational scenarios but the fervent congregants that consumed this rhetoric began to actually believe it and became incapable of understanding it was merely rhetoric. And they became this army of retards running around screaming and shouting about Liz Cheney being put in front of firing squads, and actually believing it! And this insanity, righty so, ended up turning off voters it's vast numbers. It sunk the party. Live by the sword die by the sword.
DeleteIt's fascinating. It's too bad. It's really too bad.
It's just very interesting to see people that claim to believe in the liberal cause, and maybe really believe in the Democratic Party actually do so much to destroy it. It's very interesting. But it comes down to you being just not very smart. And undertaking a role in representing the rhetoric out in public. Agents of misinformation preyed on you and took advantage of you and a lot of other people who like you are not very smart or interesting, and in doing so they created this army of flippant, sarcastic idiots that drove ordinary voters who are not as stupid as you away in huge numbers.
DeleteThe above sociopathic shit for brains thinks it's all just meaningless words. Incredibly, she thinks Trump would never actually go after his perceived enemies, even though doing so has been an admitted core part of Trump's ethos since his childhood. Trump actually tried to get his administration to prosecute his political enemies during his first term. They wouldn't do it, but he tried. Second time around he's appointing people who will actually do it. He suggested protesters be shot in the legs. At the very moment when Pence, his own VP who had kissed his ass for four years, was being hunted down by a violent mob that Trump had incited, at that very moment Trump stoked the mob's rage even further against Pence, telling the mob that Pence had betrayed them and saying "so what?" about it and "maybe they're right." There are any number of other examples of Trump's vengefulness and utter disregard for the wellbeing of other people. Trump's motto is not eye for an eye, but both eyes and your family's eyes for an eyelash. And yet our resident sociopathic bitch thinks people who are concerned about what Trump might do in his second term are the stupid ones.
DeleteAlmost two dozen angry little posts in three hours to tell us he's not seeking attention, nosireebob.
DeleteOK.
4:58's point is that anyone who listens to the words of Trump and believes them is a moron.
DeleteNow, you could say that Trump voters were buying what Trump was selling, but that isn't true either. They just crave his bigotry, believable or not.
You'd have to be a fool to think Trump is going to turn his back on our ruling elites, and send their cheap labor back to where it came from.
DeleteIf you say so, Mr. Soros.
DeleteDo you think Soros at 4:58 is mistaken?
Delete9:12,
DeleteI KNEW the election wasn't about inflation. Thanks for clearing it up for the gullible morons, who thought that meant something to Trump voters.
Soros-bot?
DeleteIs that what they are calling people who can compete with immigrants for job openings, nowadays?
By all indications, Harris will end up with about 10mil fewer votes -- and they did not, for the most part, go to Trump. In all battleground states, Trump was very near his 2024 totals, with a slight increase -- well, there's population growth and all. In Michigan specifically, Harris did not match Biden's totals.
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