Election Day is the cruelest month!

TUESDAY, NOVEMBER 3, 2020

The arson fire this time: Yesterday, we commented on a slightly peculiar report about Henderson, Nebraska—a rural farming community—in the New York Times.

The report was built around an apparent act of arson—an apparent act of arson which may or may not have actually been what it seems to have been. Leaving that hint of oddity to the side, we thought the profile was interesting.

Kevin Drum commented on the profile too. Without saying much about the specifics of the piece, he began explaining why people in rural Nebraska overwhelmingly support Trump.

This is the way he began:

DRUM (11/2/20): So what accounts for this sense of abandonment by Democrats? Partly it’s simple policy differences on things like guns, abortion, the death penalty, and so forth: the usual rural-urban divide. But it goes well beyond that. We’ve all read dozens of pieces like this one over the past few months, and the residents often express abject fear of what might happen if Joe Biden wins the presidency. This puzzles most of us. Afraid of Bernie Sanders? Sure, maybe. But afraid of Joe Biden? Mr. Mainstream? That’s crazy.

But if you watch Fox News or listen to conservative talk radio, you’d be scared too. Think about what they’re told every single day:

Liberals despise you and think that people like you are “deplorables.”

For what it's worth, the article in the Times didn't say anything about anyone in Henderson watching Fox or listening to talk radio, though we're sure that some or many do. No one expresses abject fear of  what might happen if Biden wins, though the Times reporter offers a colorful paraphrase of what the people all allegedly think.

At any rate, Drum went on to offer a list of things people are told if they watch Fox News. We were struck by that first item on the list.

If people in Henderson watch Fox, are they told that liberals despise them and think of them as “deplorables?” We'll guess that they are, on occasion. 

That said, they don't have to waste their time watching Fox to hear such talk. If they read the comments to Kevin's piece, they'll find a long list of actual liberals actually saying such things.

The Times seized upon an apparent arson fire which may have been, or may not have been, what it supposedly seems to have been. Yesterday, we did a bit of Nebraska-based background reading, and the event kept sounding perhaps a bit stranger.

That said, we also read through the comments to Kevin's post. Our conclusion:

You don't have to spend your time watching Fox to learn that people on our team loathe and despise the others.

In our view, this is one of the oldest, most intractable human stories. First, we humans split into tribes. Then we start our wars.

This morning, Eric Holder has co-written an op-ed column with one of the others. The column appears in the Washington Post. On this, the longest day of the year, we'll quote this one passage:

HOLDER AND MUKASEY (11/3/20): The most devastating event in our history came from a refusal to accept the election results in 1860. Abraham Lincoln’s plaintive plea in his inaugural speech—“We are not enemies. … We must not be enemies.”—went unheeded; 11 states refused to accept Lincoln’s election and formed the Confederacy. The result was the Civil War. That the United States survived the enormous death toll—750,000 lives lost—and the attendant destruction, and even prospered eventually, is no recommendation that we pursue this disastrous course.

We do not mean to suggest that the extreme rhetoric that characterizes today’s political divide risks the trauma and destruction that would result from another Civil War. However, neither do we wish to emulate those societies where political disputes are resolved outside the political process.

Lincoln! What did he know? For one thing, he was self-taught!

According to credentialed anthropologists, loathing the others is part of our species' natural history. In the current circumstance, we liberals don't need the chimps at Fox to name-call the others on our behalf. As has been true for a very long time, we're more than ready to get up in public and do that all by ourselves.

Loathing the others is bred in the bone. Lincoln had a better idea. Booth knew what to do.

Full disclosure: We're going to keep checking in on that arson fire. It's being investigated by Nebraska state officials. 

It made a good hook for the New York Times' report. The paper has a  history of buying such stories, at first glance, from various sides of the aisle.


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  2. "You don't have to spend your time watching Fox to learn that people on our team loathe and despise the others."

    Why would someone not despise and loathe the people who gave us Trump?

    Somerby doesn't bother differentiating between rural people in general and Trump voters, but they are not necessarily the same. I personally loathe and despise anyone who could vote for Trump, because there has to be something majorly wrong with anyone who would do that. I do not feel that way toward those who live in small towns and rural America, in general.

    I dislike Somerby's use of the term "the other" as if we were the ones other-izing others. We are not. Somerby does this. He suggests (with no evidence) that liberals are elitists who cannot stand people who are different than us. That's a huge joke, since we are the party who welcomes diversity of all kinds. Somerby watches Fox and buys into the negative stereotypes and then spews them at us here every day, as a concern troll who never questions whether negative stereotypes about liberals have any truth.

    Despicable people are despicable, not because they live in small towns or raise cows, but because they put Trump into office.

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    2. A good comparison of rural Trump voters is to the al-quaeda terrorists from earlier this century.

      Losers in life, who have been left behind, blame others for their failures and educated in the madrasas (run by Hannity, Fox, and Limbaugh in the case of rural Trump voters).

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  3. In terms of anthropology, people split into to tribes in order to defend themselves, not to start wars.

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  4. "Loathing the others is bred in the bone. Lincoln had a better idea. Booth knew what to do."

    This is one of the most offensive lines I've seen Somerby write.

    I hope Somerby isn't equating liberals with Booth, simply because we dislike Trump voters! What violence has the left engaged in? None -- antifa has turned out to be a boogaloo right-wing false flag activity intended to incite a race war. The left has resisted violence. We do not deserve this accusation, from someone who is supposedly liberal himself (although we all know by now that Somerby is no liberal).

    If the left is neither violent, nor threatening violence (as the right is currently doing), why are we the ones that Somerby is preaching at?

    I will say it. I dislike bigots, racist, sexists, and those who try to suppress the rights of others (such as those morons in trucks who attacked the Biden campaign bus and shut-down two Biden rallies). I dislike all of those people. I have nothing against farmers or working class white people or any other group now being encouraged to feel stigmatized.

    Somerby spews more hate around here than anyone in comments. He regularly attacks the media, professors, women who have written books, Hillary, and all of the favorite targets of the right wing, but especially liberals. And he has the gall to accuse us of "knowing what to do" like Booth! Somerby should be ashamed of himself.

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  5. All you have to do is burn your own tractor, blame it on the libs, and collect $100K and counting on your Go Fund Me page. Maybe collect insurance money too... and all your neighbors will help you harvest your crops.

    Why would someone drive out of New York (where people don't own cars), accidentally find someone's tractor with a huge Trump sign on it, just sitting there in a field with the key in the ignition, and set it on fire (instead of just ripping down the Trump sign)?

    I am as liberal as they come and I live in a semi-rural small town. I feel like letting the air out of my neighbors' tires every time I see one of those trucks plastered with flags, Trump banners, and Don't Tread on Me signs, plus some gun stickers (in case we didn't get the point). But I pass on by and leave them alone. Because it wouldn't be right to deny another person their 1st Amendment rights over a political disagreement. I wish the Trumpies felt the same way. That they don't is part of why I despise them. They are the ones who drove their trucks into a blocked off street full of demonstrators, forcing them to dive for safety, injuring some. Because that's what these "others" do.

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  6. "Loathing the others is bred in the bone."

    This is stupid. I sat at the bridge table opposite a Trump voter for 5 days at a tournament. At lunch, I listened while he told me why he supported Trump. He listened while I explained why I opposed Trump. Neither of us changed each other's opinions. He is perhaps a nice person, but I will not play bridge with him again. His reasons for supporting Trump are that he believed he would benefit financially because Trump would be good for the economy. I said, what about the sexual assault accusations? He said, if you feel that strongly about them, you shouldn't vote for Trump. But how do I respect someone who ignores a man's sexual crimes in favor of their own financial self-interest?

    Somerby wants to reduce this to a simple matter of tribal loathing, as if we didn't have specific reasons for disliking people who choose to vote for Trump, those who are enthusiastic about a man who is essentially a criminal. This isn't prejudice against rural America. It is dislike of those who behave in immoral ways. I believe that is a legitimate choice to make.

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    1. Was your bridge partner justified in thinking that Trump would benefit him financially? If that's what his vote is predicated on, there's a good chance that he's mistaken.

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    2. It hasn't turned out well for any of the bridge clubs being run as small, profit-making businesses. They have all been closed since last March and there are no longer regional or national tournaments. So, this guy's business has not prospered because of Trump's management of covid. I don't know whether he had investments that might have benefitted from stock market fluctuations. Trump has kept his eye on the market, to try to make sure those investors have done well. The instability of the markets and the prediction of depression would have to be a concern to such investors.

      How much profit offsets a rape accusation? How much would you have to make to ignore 27 assault accusations? How do business people weigh such things? I think David in Calif. doesn't count them at all. Profit justifies turning away from other liabilities of a candidate (unless he is gay or a Democrat).

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  7. Bob was too polite to mention that Hillary called people like me a "basket of deplorables."

    BTW I am fearful of a Biden Administration. I think Biden will win, and we will find out whether or not my worries turn out to be accurate.

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    1. You're fearful? Really? Pray tell, why? It's fascinating...

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    2. She only called half of Trump's supporters deplorable

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    3. Biden's stated program will be bad for the economy IMO. A big slump in the economy will hurt all Americans. Poor and minorities will be hurt worst. These actions will hurt the economy:

      -- More regulations
      -- Higher minimum wage
      -- Higher corporate income taxes
      -- Appointment of anti-business judges
      -- General anti-business attitude
      -- Possibly shutting down the economy due to virus
      -- Possible far-left, socialistic type plans

      In other areas:
      -- Freedom of speech is likely to be curtailed.
      -- An anti-police attitude will lead to more black murder victims.
      -- Possible near breakdown as is now occurring in a number of Democratic-run cities.
      -- A focus on racially-based programs will increase racial animosity.

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    4. I run a small business. All I know is that I made a lot more money when Obama/Biden were running things than I have with Trump. I am not in the restaurant or hospitality business, but deal with it a lot. Trump's lack of response to COVID-19 is killing more than just 1,000 people a day. Other than the Trump supporters, most people are not going anywhere or spending any money, even if they haven't lost their jobs. It might be a good time for some "socialistic type plans" to make the economy work for everybody.

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    5. How can a slump in the economy due to Biden's policies hurt the economy more than Trump's failure to control covid has hurt it?

      Your list is rife with Fox News propaganda about Biden, who is a moderate among Democrats and about as far from a socialist as you can get without being a Republican. Biden is promising to reinstate the regulations that Trump overturned. It will be good to make protected species protected again and to reinstate anti-pollution rules and place our national parks back under restrictions against exploitation by commercial interests. A lot of what Trump did was unpopular with most Americans and only favored by business interests. Biden is promising another covid stimulus to help the economy, something Trump has been unable to accomplish (his own party won't cooperate).

      There is no "breakdown" in so-called Democratic-run cities. There is no curtailment of freedom of speech there. Police reform will help all citizens. Murders are up due to covid-related stresses, not lack of support for policing. (The idea that police have deliberately laid down on the job due to criticism for shooting unarmed citizens is an insult to police.) Bigotry isn't caused by racially based programs, so there is no reason why helping minorities through such programs should increase it. Doing away with programs aimed at reducing racial animosity, as Trump has done, increases racial animosity. Doing away with a white supremacist president should help as well.

      At some point you need to explain why businesses and the rich should not pay their fair share of income taxes.

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    6. David -- I hope that you'll come back to your list in a few hours -- or a day -- re-read it with a critical eye, so that you can fully appreciate what a mindless claptrap of the standard, substance-free GOP talking points it is.

      Although, to give you some props -- "freedom os speech will be curtailed" is a new one! What do you think is going to happen?

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    7. Ilya -- conservative freedom of speech is already being curtailed on some college campuses. Conservatives are invited to speak less than liberals. When conservatives are invited, it's not uncommon for activists to shut them down. Sometimes, the conservatives are asked to pay extra security fees. Surveys show less and less support for freedom of speech on college campuses.

      Economic factor to add is fracking. Fracking not only creates jobs in the fracking industry, it makes energy cheaper, which helps create jobs throughout the economy. As a side benefit, it made the US energy independent, which enables us to tell the Saudis to go f*** themselves.

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    8. The people who are objecting to conservative speakers are students and protesters who disagree with the use of student fees to invite speakers with unpalatable ideas. They are exercising their free speech when they demonstrate against such speakers (often invited by minority campus clubs such as Young Republicans). Such talks have occasionally been shut down due to security reasons because the campus is responsible for the safety of all students, including innocent bystanders. The attempts of fringe groups to infiltrate campuses is being resisted by the larger student body in such situations. There is no inherent right to free speech being denied in such situations, since it is not the government limiting anyone. I personally don't believe that anyone should shout down or interfere with such speakers, but students are kids and whatever their political beliefs they sometimes behave badly, on all sides of an issue. It is appropriate for the inviting group to pay for the security fees needed to provide a forum for their speakers. Those surveys are showing less support for fringe views, not for free speech (which is the guarantee that government will not interfere).

      Biden is in favor of fracking, as he clearly said at the 1st debate.

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    9. Great news everyone.
      David in Cal, who knows absolutely nothing about economics, is super-concerned that Biden might not be good for the economy.
      Why is this such great news? Laughter is the best medicine.

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  8. The mutual loathing is a problem, but that was not the reason for the Civil War. The South's economy was based on slavery, and the North was determined to eradicate it (eventually) or stop its spread. We are still divided largely because some people want equal rights regardless of race and some don't. There is a real and important issue involved.

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    1. Just like in the Civil War, it's the Democrats who want rights that vary based on race. In California, a current ballot proposition was introduced by the Democrats to permit racial discrimination by the state government. Fortunately, polls show that it's losing.

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    2. Introducing greater fairness into admissions is not "racial discrimination by the state government".

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    3. California Proposition 16, the Repeal Proposition 209 Affirmative Action Amendment, is on the ballot in California as a legislatively referred constitutional amendment on November 3, 2020.

      A "yes" vote supports this constitutional amendment to repeal Proposition 209 (1996), which stated that the government and public institutions cannot discriminate against or grant preferential treatment to persons on the basis of race, sex, color, ethnicity, or national origin in public employment, public education, and public contracting.

      A "no" vote opposes this constitutional amendment, thereby keeping Proposition 209 (1996), which stated that the government and public institutions cannot discriminate against or grant preferential treatment to persons on the basis of race, sex, color, ethnicity, or national origin in public employment, public education, and public contracting.

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    4. Prop 209 is an abomination.

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    5. Meh. A REAL anti-Affirmative Action Bill would remove legacy hirings/ admissions.

      David in Cal,
      I appreciate your dream of a meritocracy, but it takes time. The first step is a 100% estate tax. Get the signatures to get that on the ballot in 2022.

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