POTENTIALLY HAPPENING HERE: Commander in chief spots "major fraud!"

WEDNESDAY, NOVEMBER 4, 2020

Who is Donald J. Trump?: Early this morning (Eastern time), a fully engaged commander-in-chief delivered winged words to his people.

The commander revealed that he had spotted a "major fraud." He vowed that he was on his way to the nation's Supreme Court.

In the wake of his action, a question arises: Who is Donald J. Trump? We turn today to the published assessment of his niece, Mary L. Trump.

Mary Trump's best-seller, Too Much and Never Enough, was published in July of this year. In her prologue, she described her training and experience as a clinical psychologist.

Who is Donald J. Trump? In her Prologue and in her Chapter One, Mary Trump used her training and her professional experience as she addressed that question. She also used her family experience and her knowledge of Trump family history. 

Who the heck is Donald J. Trump? In Chapter One of her best-selling book, Mary Trump describes her uncle's extremely difficult upbringing. In part, the difficulty of his upbringing resulted from his mother's ongoing physical ailments from the time he was two years old.

Deprived of a mother's attention and affection, Donald J. Trump's only active parent was his father, Fred Trump. In Chapter One, Mary Trump described this man—her own grandfather—in the following way:

TRUMP (page 24): Whereas [Trump's mother] was needy, [Trump's father] seemed to have no needs at all. In fact, he was a high-functioning sociopath. Although uncommon, sociopathy is not rare, afflicting as much as three percent of the population. Seventy-five percent of those afflicted are men. Symptoms of sociopathy include a lack of empathy, a facility for lying, an indifference to right and wrong, abusive behavior, and a lack of interest in the rights of others. Having a sociopath as a parent, especially if there is no one around to mitigate the effects, all but guarantees sever disruption in the way children understand themselves, regulate their emotion and engage with the world.

In that passage, Mary Trump described Donald Trump's father as "a high-functioning sociopath." She described the difficulties awaiting the child who's unlocky enough to have "a sociopath as a parent."

In this context, we'll guess that the term "sociopath" might be unfamiliar, and puzzling, to many people. We'll guess that most people would be surprised, and perhaps a bit puzzled, to be told that three percent of the population is afflicted by this disorder—a number which rises to roughly five percent in the case of adult men.

What does it mean to say that something like five percent of American men are "afflicted" with—could be diagnosed with—this psychiatric disorder? We'll guess that very few of us the people are in a position to say. 

In this society, we often picture "sociopaths" in their Hollywood raiment. We may tend to picture the Hannibal Lecters of the world when we hear that frightening term.

As best we ourselves understand it, most "sociopaths" actually aren't mass murderers. Except in the figurative sense, they don't have bodies buried in their basements. They don't make a point of frightening Jodie Foster.

Mary Trump's Chapter One starts on page 21. In the early passage we've posted, she offers a quick thumbnail portrait of a "high-functioning sociopath." 

Such people will typically display "a lack of empathy, a facility for lying, an indifference to right and wrong, abusive behavior, and a lack of interest in the rights of others," she rather briefly says.

Mary Trump's book might have been more instructive if she'd spent more time discussing and explaining the fact that a "sociopath" can also be "high-functioning." (We recall discussing this fact decades ago with comedian NAME WITHHELD, who told us that his own father had fit that description.)

How can a sociopath also be high-functioning? It's possible that Mary Trump should have discussed this point at greater length. That's especially true, because at an earlier point, in her book's Prologue, she'd come close to diagnosing her uncle, Donald J. Trump, the sitting commander-in-chief:

MARY TRUMP (page 12): In the last three years, I’ve watched as countless pundits, armchair psychologists and journalists have kept missing the mark, using phrases such as "malignant narcissism" and "narcissistic personality disorder" in an attempt to make sense of Donald’s often bizarre and self-defeating behavior. I have no problem calling Donald a narcissist—he meets all nine criteria as outlined in the Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders (DSM-5)—but the label only gets us so far.

[...]

[Clinical] experiences showed me time and again that diagnosis doesn't exist in a vacuum. Does Donald have other symptoms we aren't aware of? Are there other disorders that might have as much or more explanatory power? Maybe. A case could be made that he also meets the criteria for antisocial personality disorder, which in its most severe forms is generally considered sociopathy but can also refer to chronic criminality, arrogance, and disregard for the rights of others. Is there comorbodity? Probably. Donald may also meet some of the criteria for dependent personality disorder, the hallmarks of which include an inability to make decisions or take responsibility, discomfort with being alone, and going to excessive lengths to obtain support from others. Are there other factors that should be considered? Absolutely. He may have had a long-undiagnosed learning disability that for decades interfered with his ability to process information...

The fact is, Donald’s pathologies are so complex and his behaviors so often inexplicable that coming up with an accurate and comprehensive diagnosis would require a full battery of psychological and neuropsychological tests that he’ll never sit for. 

In that passage, Mary Trump seemed to say that her uncle could be diagnosed with "narcissistic personality disorder." She plainly said "a case can be made" that the commander "meets the criteria for antisocial personality disorder, which in its most severe forms is generally considered sociopathy."

Mary Trump flatly declared that her grandfather was a sociopath. In that passage, she seemed reluctant to offer a specific diagnosis of her uncle, the man who offered winged words this morning.

That said, she seemed to say that the sitting commander is likely a "sociopath" too. Early this morning, the commander emerged to warn us about a "major fraud" he'd spotted.

Mary Trump's remarkable book includes a remarkable claim. Also remarkable is the extent to which the modern American upper-end press corps has refused to discuss her claims.

She said that her uncle, the sitting commander, may well be "afflicted" with sociopathy. Along the way, she told a very sympathetic family story about the way a two-year-child may have ended up that way.

Her grandfather was a sociopath; her uncle may be one too. Last night, her uncle appeared in public to describe a "major fraud." 

Tomorrow, we'll discuss the remarkable way the press corps chose to ignore Mary Trump's diagnosis. We'll discuss the way Mary Trump seems to have played along with this silence herself.

Questions:

Is this president afflicted with a severe psychiatric disorder? And if he actually is so afflicted, what's everyone else's excuse?

Tomorrow: What is a "national discourse?"

Friday: Anthropologists muse


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  1. I agree with what Robert Farley said on the Lawyers, Guns & Money blog:

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  2. "Who is Donald J. Trump?"

    This is not the important question. The important question is why so many Americans voted for him.

    For many of us, the important question is whether we want to live in a country where so many people voted for him.

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  3. Uh-huh. It doesn't surprise us in the least that you, dear Bob, just like any goebbelsian liberal, would respond to credible allegations against your liberal cult with a personal attack. That is exactly what cults do.

    And after all, this is exactly what you've been doing for a while now, faced with irrefutable evidence of your Rapist-Mafioso candidate's influence-peddling enterprise.

    Nice going, dear Bob.

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    2. Иди на хуй, маленький тролль.

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  4. Mary Trump did say that Trump was a sociopath but she also said that his pathologies were complicated and that they couldn't be sorted out without the kind of testing that Trump will not sit for.

    Somerby wants to reduce this, simplistically, to sociopathy. It doesn't work that way. For one thing, most sociopaths are not criminals the way Trump is. It takes more than sociopathy to account for Trump's behavior. But Somerby wants to tie it all up with a bow and consider Trump solved.

    Somerby is an asshole. What is everyone else's excuse? There are too many people supporting, enabling, abetting Trump for them all to be sociopaths. Somerby doesn't want to think about them. It is enough to label Trump, so he can be pitied. God help us all if Biden doesn't win.

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  5. "Is this president afflicted with a severe psychiatric disorder?"

    Obviously he is not afflicted with a severe disorder. If he were, he would not be functioning at all. Severe disorders are disabling, especially if untreated (as Trump appears to be, based on his symptoms).

    Somerby is messing with things he doesn't understand. You cannot pick paragraphs out of a book and use them to classify people you dislike (assuming Somerby dislikes Trump, which is not at all established). But he invites us to diagnose Trump based on stereotypes and nonsense.

    Ted Bundy was not only a serial killer but also a sociopath. He appeared to be a normal father and businessman, to the extent that he fooled Elizabeth Loftus, a famous psychologist whose lab he worked in as a student. One of the hallmarks of a sociopath is that these guys (high functioning serial killers) appear normal, not like Trump, actually NORMAL. They fool people while engaging in heinous crimes. In contrast, Trump's deficits are obvious, clearly visible to anyone with eyes to see, he is transparent, with his damage in plain view. That is not the way a typical sociopath behaves. Trump makes no attempt to conform, to adhere to norms. He has never had to. In that respect, he doesn't fit the profile, and that needs to be accounted for in terms of his other pathologies. Somerby makes no attempt to do this. Neither does Mary Trump.

    This seems like a game that Somerby has been playing. It isn't clear what he hopes to gain by convincing liberals to label Trump. Trump supporters mostly don't believe in psychology, nor does Somerby really. He is using this label for his own purposes. What are those purposes? I don't know but I don't imagine they are benign toward liberals, the people who he actually abuses here daily.

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  6. “Is this president afflicted with a severe psychiatric disorder? And if he actually is so afflicted, what's everyone else's excuse?”

    Somerby likes to drag out the answers to the questions he poses as if there is some mystery about it, when it is perfectly clear what he already believes.

    Based upon his past blogging, his answer to this question is already a foregone conclusion:

    It’s the fault of liberals and the mainstream media.

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  7. The president's idea of fraud is that Democrats were allowed to vote.

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  8. Bob, Surely you remember 2000 and what happened to your friend Gore. It's hard Republican law that once a Republican gets a lead in a state, vote counting must stop. That's Republican rules. In the rest of the civilized world, they count all the votes, and the one with most votes wins.

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  9. Kevin Drum says it all:

    "I am very disappointed in my country this morning."

    Me too.

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    1. Van Jones said that on CNN last night: Biden may win, but the moral victory has eluded us. Trump, the fucking degenerate that he is, should been clobbered. Inexplicably, he managed to find more people to vote for him.

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  10. Bob entirely misses the point of Trump's comment. Trump was trying to be effective, rather than perfectly accurate. There may or may not be fraud in some of the states. Trump's comment was designed to motivate people to aggressively look for fraud.

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    1. How do you know this?

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    2. Fair question, @3:01. I based my opinion on the fact that Trump commonly uses communication for effectiveness rather than accuracy. BTW his campaign has already filed suit in Michigan and will be doing so also in PA.

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    3. You cannot be effective if you are not accurate. Lying causes confusion. Filing suit doesn't make Trump right, as he has demonstrated throughout his life. He will only waste time and money and the outcome of the election will be unchanged. Biden has won and Trump is being a sore loser.

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    4. "If you’ve been staring at slow-moving vote counts in Michigan, Wisconsin, and Pennsylvania, wondering why the hell these states can’t get their acts together and come up with a count, you should know who to blame: their Republican-controlled legislatures.

      In all three states, Republican lawmakers refused to allow mail votes to be counted or even processed ahead of Election Day, guaranteeing delays in their results. This is yet another example of Republicans choosing what they think is in their partisan interest over what makes sense"

      Daily Kos

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    5. Trump commonly uses communication for effectiveness rather than accuracy.
      Re-read this sentence again, David. Do you see what you're saying? Trump gaslights people hoping to confuse them in order to achieve a desired result. Is this a fair way to rephrase your statement?

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    7. "Trump commonly uses communication for effectiveness rather than accuracy."

      Which is exactly how sociopaths use communication!

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  11. If “sociopath” means “lying scumbag”, then let’s call Trump a sociopath.

    Although, unlike Somerby, I tend not to pity lying scumbags. Especially when the Scumbag In Chief has lying scumbag minions who carry out his orders.

    In other news befitting 2020:
    “Republican David Andahl, who died from COVID-19 in October, has been elected to the North Dakota House of Representatives”

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