WINNERS, LOSERS, ENEMIES, OTHERS: Why did Those People vote for Trump?

THURSDAY, NOVEMBER 12, 2020

We're back in Nebraska again: In fairness, Jennifer Finney Boylan isn't a political analyst, at least not in the main.

That said, we were struck by something she wrote in yesterday's New York Times column. She penned a familiar type of confession. It resembled a humblebrag:

BOYLAN (11/11/20): For the life of me I have never been able to understand how so many Republicans talk about their patriotism and their love of the flag and at the same time despise the very government the Constitution created. Is that what patriotism means now—hating governance, but getting all teary-eyed and sentimental about Exxon Mobil?

Ignore Boylan's unflattering paraphrase of what "so many Republicans" say and feel. We've long been  struck by this type of confession, in which national opinion writers proudly announce that they don't understand the topic they're writing about. 

Within the deeply unimpressive realm of corporate liberal media, pundits routinely score Brownie points by launching such confessions. 

I can't even begin to under Those People, they brag. From there, they somehow proceed to characterize what The Others are thinking:

BOYLAN (continuing directly): It’s this enduring frame of mind that still eats away at us. It explains, just to pick one example, Republicans’ hatred of the Affordable Care Act—and why they’ve been trying to repeal it for all these years, even while swearing that they’ll protect so many of its provisions.

Is Boylan describing Republican officials, or plain old Republican voters? It's amazing how rarely such distinctions are drawn when the tribunes of our failing tribe perform in this slightly comical way.

Now for our own confession! We don't understand Republicans either—or at least, we don't understand Republican voters. (The values and motives of Republican office-holders and opinion leaders are much easier to imagine.)

We don't understand Republican voters either! In fairness, we offer this excuse—there were maybe 75 million such voters in this year's election, and all but a few million of them voted for Donald J. Trump.

It's hard to "understand" 75 million people, most of whom you've never met. Having said that, we'll restate our initial point:

We score it comical when corporate pundits seem to boast, as they routinely do, about their inability to understand this inscrutable thundering herd. 

Given the haplessness of our own tribe, pundits gain tribal sincerity points when they emit such confessions. We rubes are so dumb that we admire national pundits who happily state that they don't understand the topic they're writing about.

Like many others, we've found it surprising to see Donald J. Trump retain so much support and get so many votes. But we also know what a person can do when he doesn't understand someone else:

At least in theory, he or she can go to such people and ask them about their vote! 

It's hard to adopt this strategy when ten of millions of Others are involved. That said, the New York Times has adopted a version of this approach in recent days:

In this report, Ellen Barry spoke to one of the truest-believing of all Trump supporters, a 26-year-old hair stylist who lives in Wilmington, Mass.

In this report, Trip Gabriel interviewed an array of Trump voters in Pennsylvania. "Many of the president’s supporters were swayed by his blizzard of disinformation that illegal voting had been rampant," Gabriel reported, without necessarily explaining why these people had voted for Trump in the first place.

Meanwhile, in this report, Dionne Searcey was back in Nebraska again. On November 2, she had written an intriguing report about some of the state's Trump voters—a report in which she may or may not have swallowed a fraudulent claim of a politically-motivated arson fire.

(More on that tomorrow.)

This Monday, Searcey was back in Nebraska again, interviewing Trump voters in rural locations. In Nebraska, it can get quite rural, though perhaps not as rural as this:

SEARCEY (11/9/20): Inside the Cattleman’s Lounge in Springview, Neb., signs supporting Mr. Trump decorate the restaurant.

Joleen Kienke, the owner, said she had voted for Mr. Trump because the president opposed the shutdown of the nation’s economy during the pandemic. Cases of Covid-19 are surging across Nebraska, but the effects of the virus aren’t as obvious in Keya Paha County, home to fewer than 300 residents, where Springview is.

Ms. Kienke said the income from the lounge and her Cattleman’s Bunkhouse had increased in recent months.

“I hear a lot of restaurants are going under, but we’re doing pretty good,” said Ms. Kienke, a fifth-generation cattle rancher whose ancestors immigrated from Germany. “There’s very little Covid here, and people who do have it stay home.”

Is Keya Paha County really "home to fewer than 300 residents?" As of last July, the Census Bureau was estimating the county's population at 806—but they're a bunch of federal bureaucrats. How much could they possibly know?

For the record, Nebraska has 93 different counties.  Twelve of these counties have populations of less than one thousand souls.

Most Trump voters don't live in places which are this rural, not even in Nebraska. Nor is there any way that Searcey can possibly know that the highlighted claim is accurate: 

SEARCEY: The 2020 presidential vote hammered home the political divide in the country, with states supporting Mr. Biden largely located along the coasts, and those supporting Mr. Trump in a swath down the middle. Nebraska is tucked deep among them. More than 90 percent of voters supported Mr. Trump in at least five of its 93 counties.

But the knowledge here that Mr. Biden won the presidency—and that Nebraska even sent an Electoral College vote his way—was met with a what-goes-around-comes-around kind of attitude. Many Republicans said they planned to show liberals, who they said had whined for four years about Mr. Trump, that it was possible to simply move on when you lose.

To what extent did Trump voters in rural Nebraska meet the knowledge of Biden's win "with a what-goes-around-comes-around kind of attitude?"

On the basis of a limited number of interviews, Searcey can't possibly know. In this way, our own tribe's most famous newspaper pretends to offer information in its news reports.

We were intrigued by Searcey'a first Nebraska report—the report in which she may or may not have swallowed a hoax. (The New York Times has rarely met a hoax it didn't like.) 

In that report, Searcey was describing people who lived in a very different part of this very large country. It's hard to hold such a country together—a giant country with a wide array of regional histories and cultures.

We were also intrigued by Searcey's new report. She described local attitudes about Covid-19 which didn't strike us as crazy. Also, she wrote this:

SEARCEY: Yutan, population 1,300, is just over the border from the Second Congressional District...Seventy-one percent of voters in Saunders County, where Yutan is, cast ballots for Mr. Trump.

It has the trappings of many rural Nebraska small towns: an overwhelmingly white population, grain bins alongside railroad tracks, a water tower, a short strip of stores both open and long-ago shuttered, and roads that dead-end into cornfields.

[...]

Not all of Mr. Trump’s backers in Nebraska were brushing off the latest voting results. In Lincoln, supporters rallied outside the capitol yelling that Mr. Biden had stolen the election. In Yutan, some expressed worries about trade and the economy under Mr. Biden. One woman stood in her lawn and said she was waiting once Mr. Biden took office “for my government-issued Chinese flag.” Her neighbor worried about socialism taking root. Both were worried that if they gave their names to a reporter, liberals would track them down and destroy their homes.

We'd be slow to judge the people who live in those rural Nebraska towns. (Yutan seems to be one of the largest places Searcey visited.)

Cultural frameworks are vastly different in such locales—and Searcey made no attempt to ask her interview subjects where they get their "information." The various "facts" (and frameworks) to which we humans are exposed may help explain the varied conclusions we reach. 

(For the record, we're speaking here of the way Republican officials and opinion leaders may mislead Republican voters. As a point of basic decency, we think such distinctions matter.)

Why did rural Nebraskans vote in large numbers for Donald J. Trump? If you want to know, you pretty much have to go ask them. Even then, there's a good chance you won't really know.

Having said that, we'll also say this:

You've never once, in all your years, seen a discussion on liberal "cable news" TV shows about elements of "trade and the economy," perhaps including trade with China, which effect farm communities in rural Nebraska. 

Within our vastly self-impressed caste, people in those distant communities don't even exist. Should we really be surprised when we don't understand the inexcusable ways they vote?

The New York Times may (or may not) have purchased its latest hoax. Also, a very large percentage of rural Nebraskans voted for Donald J. Trump.

Within our tribe, we're repelled by one part of that package, oblivious to the other. We may even score tribal purity points for saying we don't understand!

Tomorrow: Why did people vote for Trump? We enter a barbershop!


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    1. Yep, bigotry and misogyny, using their version of "economics" to prop themselves up in their minds. Also, it's about time for their evangelical churches to lose tax-exempt status.

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  2. "In Yutan, some expressed worries about trade and the economy under Mr. Biden."

    LOL. The lie that Right-wingers know anything about the economy should have been ignored decades ago.

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  3. "You've never once, in all your years, seen a discussion on liberal "cable news" TV shows about elements of "trade and the economy," perhaps including trade with China, which effect farm communities in rural Nebraska."

    The media is the propaganda arm of corporations. Why would they upend the status quo?
    Are you also surprised they don't mention government-funded only elections will give more power to the citizens than corporations?

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    1. We never hear about the oil and gas bonus payments that Alaskans get each year either. We don't hear about fish farming. We don't hear about soy price supports. We don't hear that California has the highest agriculture receipts in the nation, more than Nebraska or Iowa, but Trump keeps saying that California is letting water run into the ocean (that's what rivers do) so it doesn't deserve any price supports. Trump thinks farmers are great, but only when they vote for him in Red states. Those in California are out of luck.

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  4. I've never once, in four years of listening to Trump voters, heard a discussion about elements of "trade and the economy," perhaps including trade with China, which effect farm communities in rural Nebraska.

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    1. Trump's policies toward China NEGATIVELY effect farm communities. That is why he has had to give them several stimulus bonuses, aimed just at them, most recently right before the election. I wonder if THAT influences their votes for him? They used to call this buying votes, but when Trump does it, Somerby looks the other way and says Democrats hate Nebraskans.

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  5. What happens when you ask a Trump voter to explain why they voted for Trump? You get a bunch of self-serving lies. I know because I have tried it.

    They tell you how wonderful it is in business and how much he will do for the nation's economy. If you try to contradict that with examples, they tell you that you are deluded, believing Democratic propaganda, not giving him a fair chance. If you pin them down with stats about the economy, they retreat to: well, my life [business] has improved under Trump. If you then point out that others are not so fortunate, they tell you that they aren't responsible for other people's choices (poverty has always been with us). If you bring up Trump's misbehavior, they say, "well if that bothers you, you certainly shouldn't vote for him" but they do not back off their own position.

    You cannot "understand" this kind of discussion in the normal way because it is not logical or based on facts, but a veneer of justification layered over an emotional response. When the discussion stays civil.

    Then Somerby reverts to suggesting again that local issues should be discussed on national cable news -- farm prices for example. You can find plenty of that kind of discussion on economics shows and on local news. Anyone who has been to Nebraska knows about the Farm Report.

    Somerby almost seems to be suggesting that if you discuss farm prices in Nebraska, they will vote Democratic. Does he think Biden's team didn't do that? When Dems do discuss local issues, Republicans call it pandering, but all the discussion of farm issues in the world won't turn Nebraska blue. Somerby is being disingenuous.

    And he uses his ugly word "caste" again, to call us liberals a bunch of anti-Nebraskan bigots. What a lovely guy our Somerby has become. Doesn't he know that many New Yorkers and Boston dwellers and Los Angeles residents CAME FROM small towns in Nebraska? Does he imagine we never talk to our relatives? I've been to Nebraska 8 times in my own life as a West Coaster, and I wasn't even born there. I think Somerby is dealing in his own negative stereotypes today.

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  6. A poll showed that 80% of Republicans think the election was fixed. And we're supposed to consider these people as smart and intelligent? You go ahead, I'll take a pass.

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  7. It is plain that whatever Searcey does, in a limited report, is wrong. If she interviews people, then she cannot generalize (but larger polls are blaming for not looking beyond the numbers). If she chooses one town, she is wrong because she didn't interview people somewhere else. If she talks to them about why they supported Trump, she is wrong because she didn't interview them about what media they consume. And so on...always wrong, even when she is doing what Somerby himself has previously called for.

    And Somerby never notices that all of these interviews never seem to talk to their Trump supporters about race. It's only about socialism and corn prices, to hear Somerby and those Trump voters speak. And if you believe that, I've got a farm in Nebraska to sell you.

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  8. “You've never once, in all your years, seen a discussion on liberal "cable news" TV shows about elements of "trade and the economy," perhaps including trade with China, which effect farm communities in rural Nebraska.”

    It’s not Nebraska, but at a recent debate between Iowa senator Ernst and her Democratic challenger Theresa Greenfield, the question was about farm prices. Greenfield, who grew up on a farm, knew the answer. Ernst was clueless.

    It isn’t clear how that race was decided in Ernst’s favor by MSNBC (supposedly) not discussing farm prices. They have, however, discussed the impacts of Trump’s China policy on farms. Over and over, as a matter of fact.

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    1. Here is just one example of “cable news TV shows” talking about elements of "trade and the economy," perhaps including trade with China, which effect farm communities in rural Nebraska.”:

      “Nebraska farmers feeling impact of Trump’s trade war

      Some farmers are starting to feel the impact of the president’s trade war. Stephanie Ruhle speaks with Vaughn Hillyard who has been meeting with farmers in Nebraska who are dealing with President Trump’s tariffs firsthand.”

      July 19, 2018

      https://www.msnbc.com/stephanie-ruhle/watch/nebraska-farmers-feeling-impact-of-trump-s-trade-war-1281057347525

      Stephanie Ruhle and Ali Velshi specialize in the economy for MSNBC.

      Thus, Somerby doesn’t watch them.

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    2. Just a quibble but Somerby doesn't seem to know the difference between affect and effect as verbs, and affect and effect as nouns. It isn't just a matter of spelling, but they mean different things.

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    1. Leroy, you have to be aware by now that Somerby doesn't read his comments.

      I'm beginning to think you might be one of those people yourself.

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  10. "Why did Those People vote for Trump?"

    Because Nebraskans have voted for the Republican candidate for 14 strait elections, and 20 of 21 elections since 1936.

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