SATURDAY, MARCH 1, 2025
The Vances were already present: Sometimes, cultural schisms come into being—cultural schisms which cut too deep to be resolved in any short-term way.
These schisms may lead to wars. Sometimes the wars are military in nature. Sometimes the wars are political or cultural.
As of this very morning, we'd say the ongoing war between the Red and Blue American nations is at long last officially over. We'd also say that our own Blue America has lost.
We lost the war last November when the "landslide" numbers shown below came in. For the record, we Blues had been doing our best to lose this war for several years before that:
Nationwide popular vote, 2024
Candidate Trump (R): 77,302,580 (49.80%)
Candidate Harris (D): 75,017,613 (48.32%)
Those seem to be the official numbers. They're offered by the FEC. At its own site, the leading authority agrees.
No, that isn't a landslide! As far as we know, the winning candidate has actually stopped using that inaccurate term. On the other hand, he didn't win "by millions and millions of votes," the claim he made yesterday right there in the Oval Office.
In our view, yesterday's claim is also bogus. But to the victors go the spoils, and the war which was being fought within this country was a war of The Information Age.
That war was, and that war remains, an information / Storyline war.
The commander won by less than 1.5 points, but the fact is, he did win—and on that day, the die was cast. It led to yesterday's event in in the Oval Office. It also led to this summary by Rachel Campos-Duffy, offered at 6:18 this morning on an official show of Red America, Fox & Friends Weekend:
CAMPOS-DUFFY (3/1/25): In the end, I think what's remarkable is that we have a president who's willing to bring about world peace. Man! If he doesn't get the Nobel Peace Prize after this, that thing means nothing.
Peter Doocy quickly agreed. At that point, it was on to a different topic.
That account strikes us as daft—almost as a form of madness. But the other side won the war.
The other side did win! As a result, the winning candidate is now dismantling large parts of the federal government. He's also dismantling large parts of American policy.
As one example, in all likelihood, NATO is on the way out.
In Blue America, we worked hard, in the past four years, to generate this outcome. It started with the election of President Biden, which seemed to be a reprieve at the time.
At the time, it seemed to be a reprieve. But things spiraled downward from there.
For today, we want to advance one basic point. Here it is:
At a certain point, a schism will have become so vast that it can't be "discussed," negotiated or resolved between the warring parties in anything like the short run.
At a certain point, one side has won and the other has lost! It's pointless to continue to think that differences in viewpoint and messaging can still be resolved.
At some point, one side has lost! After yesterday morning's events, that's plainly where matters stand.
"The day of his death was a dark cold day." That's what Auden wrote.
To our reckoning, yesterday was also a dark cold day. But with respect to Auden's assertion, W. B. Yeats was still dead.
With respect to yesterday's events, Red American characterization of those events strike us as something akin to a type of madness. In the larger sense, we think of the deal which lay at the heart of yesterday's dispute in the following simplified way:
A guy was prepared to pay a certain price for a security guard to be positioned outside his hardware store.
But when he actually signed the contract which obligated him to pay that price, he learned that there would be no security guard involved in the deal!
That's roughly the way it looks to us. Spokespersons in Red America are going to tell the story in a vastly different way—and their agents are currently in full control, especially on the international front. They're changing so many things so quickly that no one can hope to keep up.
Citizens in Red America are going to hear that other account of yesterday's events. At this late date, there is no point in trying to reach some sort of agreement, across the two Americas, as to what "really" occurred.
On Blue America's cable news channels, they won't be telling us that. As is the case with the Fox News Channel, those channels still have a product to sell.
On the other hand, it's also true that many people at Blue America's channels may not realize that our own side has lost
In The Sixth Sense, the Bruce Willis character doesn't yet know that he's dead. At present, that's pretty much the way it is here in our own Blue America.
According to experts, we humans are wired to have a hard time understanding that wars have been lost. Also, when very unusual events occur, we humans will often have a very hard time seeing what has happened.
So it was in The Emperor's New Clothes, and so it is in the current situation.
At such times, we may be helped to see more clearly if we can find parallels in the works of literature:
Over the course of the past year, we've suggested that you consider the cataclysmic "night assault" which is prefigured in the Iliad. We've also noted Camus' account of the way the fictional townsfolk of the fictional Oran fail to see that a plague is underway in their city, even after the visible signs are entirely clear.
Regarding yesterday's Oval Office events, we'll offer two parallels from literature. To be clear, these scenes from literature capture the way those events looked to us. There is no point, at this late date, trying to influence Campos-Duffy or the people who stand in her thrall.
We start with the scene from the film Wiseguys where the Joe Pesci character returns to a bar to settle a score with a character by whom he feels he has been insulted.
He attacks the guy and knocks him down. As soon as he has his victim on the ground, the De Niro character joins in. Two (2) guys are now kicking the victim as he lies on the ground!
For us, we flashed on that famous scene as we watched yesterday's events. That's how it looked to us.
This morning, we also thought of the opening page of James Joyce's autobiographical novel, A Portrait of the Artist as a Young Man.
Yesterday, to our eye, an officious vice president jumped in to insist that President Zelensky apologize for an imagined offense. That's how it looked to us.
Meanwhile, are we all just toys of the gods? When we turned to Joyce's novel, we were surprised by one part of the passage we had flashed on.
In this early passage, Joyce is characterizing his life as a very young child. Presumably, "Dante" is the way the very young child understands the name of his aunt.
You can peruse the full passage here:
A Portrait of the Artist as a Young Man
[...]
Uncle Charles and Dante clapped. They were older than his father and mother but uncle Charles was older than Dante...Dante gave him a cachou every time he brought her a piece of tissue paper.
The Vances lived in number seven. They had a different father and mother. They were Eileen’s father and mother. When they were grown up he was going to marry Eileen. He hid under the table. His mother said:
—O, Stephen will apologise.
Dante said:
—O, if not, the eagles will come and pull out his eyes.—
Pull out his eyes,
Apologise,
Apologise,
Pull out his eyes.
Apologise,
Pull out his eyes,
Pull out his eyes,
Apologise.
We Irish! But so it allegedly went.
Pull out his eyes, apologise! That's a scene which flashed for us in the course of yesterday's tag-team mugging.
That's a scene which flashed for us. There's no point in trying to convince Campos-Duffy or the other friends that something like that occurred.
By now, our own Blue America has plainly lost the messaging / narrative / information war. The other side is very much in power.
What do you do when a war has been lost? First, you have to train yourself to see that the loss has actually happened.
Meanwhile, are we all just a joke of the gods—a stage play constructed for their amusement?
We certainly didn't remember this fact. But when we looked at the opening page of Joyce's novel, "the Vances" were already present!
The Vances were already there, even way back then! The Vances were already present as a mob ganged up on Joyce and tried to make him apologize for having done nothing wrong.
Are we secretly just a joke of the gods? As we seek the comforts and the insights of literature, did Homer get that part right?
Don't worry, Bob.
ReplyDeleteWe were promised that if we allow rooms full of slaughtered First Graders, good guys with guns wouldn't sell them to criminals on the black market, and would instead use them to fight government tyranny.
Problem solved.
Biden was an excellent president who pulled us out of covid, helped the nation recover financially (preventing a recession), enacted an infrastructure bill that was long overdue, advanced labor, and was everything liberals could have hoped for in a president. He is highly rated by the historians who rank presidents.
ReplyDeleteSomerby continuing to knock Biden stinks. He is perhaps still justifying his own abandonment of Biden over his age, but he seems to have moved beyond that to try to erase Biden's many accomplishments. There is no need for that. It shows an ugly kind of revisionism.
The rest of today's essay is more doom and gloom. We don't need that if we are to resist Trump's destruction of the things that most liberals consider important, especially civil rights and support for American allies. What comfort does Somerby find in literature? None that I can see.
Today's effort is rancid.
No one pulled us out of covid. The fact that 89% of Americans got covid "pulled us out."
DeleteWhen your “fact” is inaccurate, you’ve lost the argument.
DeleteBiden did pull us out of Covid, in a variety of ways, Biden is our most significant president, in terms of positive impact, since FDR.
That is the argument of a first grader whose mommy loves Biden.
Delete11:38 as compelling a case you make, I disagree.
DeleteI don't see things Somerby's way. We haven't lost a "war" to red voters. They managed to win the presidency by a slim margin, with a presidential candidate for does not know how to govern. Now red states are getting what they deserve and it is hurting them as surely as it hurts us. Trump is not sparing anyone in his destructive rampage, which will be stopped eventually by the courts and by failure of imagination of his cronies, once they discover they do not know how to build anything in our government's place. Then the Democrats will come back and pick up the pieces.
ReplyDeleteWhere can I see this movie, “Wiseguys?” Sounds very exciting!
ReplyDeleteGoodfellas is better.
Delete“Wiseguy” was the book the film “Goodfellas” was based on. All of Somerby’s analysts who once might have fixed these issues before he hit the publish button have fled his service. You really have to worry about Somerby’s mental state for him to keep making these basic errors that will never be corrected. Hopefully, one of Somerby’s family members will gentle lead him from his computer and into permanent retirement from writing.
DeleteIf Somerby supported Biden, why does this "report" have such an "I told you so" feel to it? This is gloating.
ReplyDeleteSomerby apparently does not seem to understand that we are now a wholly owned subsidiary of Putin, who paid off Trump by permitting this public humiliation of Zelensky. This is Trump at his ugliest, and Somerby compares him to James Joyce!
If there is any justice in this world, Trump will cut off Somerby's social security and then Somerby will find out that his "service" to Trump will not spare him and that Trump has no loyalty to his red voters. And he will see that this destruction of our country by Putin's handmaid includes his own minions. No one expects Somerby to apologize for anything he has done since 2015 and no one expect this senile old fool with a blog to understand what he has been doing.
Soon the red and blue factions will dissolve because it will become an "every man for himself" kind of society. Somerby seems to think Trump will stop at hurting his perceived enemies, but once he gets this recession rolling, impersonal economics, disease, famine and shortage will affect us all. That's how it works in third world countries. Will Somerby seek asylum in Russia, as Trump will no doubt do (if he doesn't die first).
To be fair, the result of Trump’s temper tantrum was that Trump humiliated himself. The temper tantrum itself was the result of Trump feeling humiliated by being outplayed by Zelensky.
DeleteTo be sure, Zelensky is a hero, an admirable force, but he’s been shopping this deal for a while, and it’s understandable, but, just like with Afghanistan, Ukraine really is not a bounty of minerals, it’s a bit of an empty carrot dangled to give some cover for those a bit squeamish about helping Ukraine fight one of the most dangerous fascists in history. Trump jumped in without knowing anything, tried to personally benefit, and got outmaneuvered, since, in reality, Trump is terrible at negotiating and making deals (turning his dad’s half a billion into 6 bankruptcies).
Somerby does not know anything or care about Ukraine, or the plight of Americans at the hands of the Republican Party; he has his marching orders which he dutifully fulfills with this insipid right wing vanity blog.
Your little dictator hero
DeleteHe’s in year 6 of his 5 year term
Declared martial law Feb 2022 and has banned elections since then
Banned 11 political parties
Passed law in 2022 to censor journalists and combined all news into 1 gov’t station
Journalists investigating his corruption get conscripted and thrown on the front lines to die
How can we get peace in the Ukraine and an end to martial law and new elections? I got an idea. Tell Vlad to get the fuck out of President Zelensky's country and return all the Ukrainian children the russian invader kidnapped, and then fucking apologize to the rest of the civilized world.
DeleteI may have other conditions, I am still thinking.
11:37’s I know you are but what am I argument is fucking hilarious. Pravda on, my fellow propagandist.
DeleteTo be fair, Zelensky is a dictator in a sense, since he took over a region of Russia without being elected there. Putin also took over Russia without really being elected, but unlike Zelensky, Putin is a paper tiger.
"But when we looked at the opening page of Joyce's novel, "the Vances" were already present!"
ReplyDeleteSomerby never reads beyond the beginning of any book. That prevents him from reading the moral or resolution of whatever conflict is set up in the first pages.
Vance was there in the oval office because Trump has major disrespect for Vance. Vance is the lady's lapdog, the pathetic weak sister among Trump's sycophants, placed into the job that Trump himself has said is a do-nothing position. Trump hated Pence and he doesn't like Vance any better. So what does it mean when Trump lets Vance kick Zelensky during a public meeting?
It means that Trump's perceived humiliation of Zelensky is complete, because Trump permitted his smallest and weakest MAGA to spit on Zelensky and push him around. Yes, Zelensky fought back bravely, which is to his credit, but Trump didn't let Vance speak because he likes Vance. He did it because he wanted his lowliest MAGA to show Zelensky utter domination by the most despised of Trump's lackeys.
And Somerby doesn't see that. He labels Vance Irish. We Irish do not deserve that, nor have the Irish (the historical backbone of labor and politics in immigrant America) been the weak link as Vance is now, shunted aside until it is time to use him in Trump's ugly manner.
What is wrong with Somerby?
Somerby is a right winger.
DeleteWho are the Vances in Somerby's Joyce quotes? Not Uncle Charles or Dante. and Dante is not Stephen's aunt, nor is she married to Uncle Charles. She is a completely different and unrelated person, a governess whose job is to chide the young children. The Vances are the parents of a young girl, Eileen, who is a neighbor. Somerby runs all this together as if he doesn't remember and didn't bother to figure it out. None of these people are like J.D. Vance except that the neighbors share the name Vance. They don't behave like Vance did and this is not an apt or relevant stream-of-consciousness association in any respect. We don't even know what Stephen was supposed to apologize for, but no Vance was present in that scene. So this amounts to confusing babbling by Somerby.
ReplyDeleteFrom Cliff Notes:
"Uncle Charles Stephen's granduncle (great-uncle) who lives with the Dedalus family. He is an aging, "hale old man with welltanned skin, rugged features and white side whiskers." He spends memorable mornings walking with young Stephen, visiting neighboring vendors, and pilfering items for Stephen's consumption. A relic of Ireland's hearty and spirited past, Uncle Charles resides with the family until his death.
Aunt Dante (Mrs. Riordan) Not an aunt by blood or by marriage, this "well-read, clever," and overzealous Irish governess of the Dedalus children values "God and religion before everything!" During Stephen's first Christmas dinner with the adults in his household, Dante's firm religious convictions clash violently with Mr. Casey's political opinions regarding Charles Stewart Parnell. Her final denunciation of Parnell, directed at Simon and Mr. Casey, leaves both men weeping over the fate of their fallen leader and the precarious future of their country."
Somerby suggests that Uncle Charles was married to Aunt Dante, and that they are the Vances. Actually, Eileen Vance is somebody unconnected to them and the Vances, who are neighbors down the street, are condemned for being Protestant:
"Eileen Vance The daughter of the Dedaluses' Protestant neighbors. As a young child, Stephen said that he was going to marry Eileen; Dante was livid, and instantly and firmly, she discouraged the possibility of such a "sinful" association. Thus, a pattern was begun. For young Stephen, Eileen was the first in a long line of women who were desired by Stephen but who were condemned by other people for one reason or another. Specifically, Stephen remembers Eileen's cool, soft, "long white hands"; the image of Eileen's hands enables Stephen to understand the meaning of the term "Tower of Ivory," a phrase which he had often repeated without comprehension in the Litany to the Blessed Virgin Mary. Eileen's characteristics eventually blend with other female "E" references in the novel — "Emma" and "E — C — " and Emma Clery — all revealing different facets of Stephen's ambiguous, confused, conflicting sentiments about the women in his life."
I can see why Somerby might identify with young Stephen given his own troubled history with women and his conflicts with his mother (his own Aunt Dante?). But this all has nothing to do with Zelensky, Vance, Trump, or Putin.
Casting insinuations about Somerby, women, and his mother are disgusting.
Delete"Are we secretly just a joke of the gods? As we seek the comforts and the insights of literature, did Homer get that part right?"
ReplyDeleteSomerby has said several times that he is not religious. If he doesn't believe in God, he doesn't believe in "gods" either, so there is no point in invoking them just because Homer did.
There is nothing funny about what is happening to all of us these days. Dismissing this as a big joke is certainly not how we on the left see things.
To invoke Homer is not to state a belief in the gods but in the beauty of Homer. If you can't understand this, then the joke's on you.
DeleteThe Iliad has no bearing on our current situation.
Delete@11:03 -- you do realize that the Iliad is a translation of Homer into English, not the original version, right? That filtering through a translator keeps any of us from knowing how much "beauty" Homer had versus his translator's choices. And since there is no way to compare Homer's work to any original historical events or even the oral tradition, how much did Homer himself contribute?
DeleteBros are fascinated by Homer because there are all those explosions (lots of violence, especially against women), amirite?
Actually, most of the violence in the Iliad is against men.
DeleteGood point, the violence against women in these stories really titillate Somerby and the Repubs, but the violence involving men touch that latent homosexuality nerve that many Repubs experience.
DeleteWhere is everybody? Gone to fight in Ukraine judging from the warmongering here.
ReplyDeleteThe warmongering is coming from Putin and his buddy Trump, asswipe.
DeleteTotally. After yesterdays' stellar performance, the Nobel can no longer be denied to Trump.
DeleteNot to mention JD Pipsqueak, who made his own invaluable contribution.
The decline of the US as an advocate for the free world began with Trump 1, but the history books will forever cite yesterday.
DeleteThe war is not over as long as we can still call our elected representatives. Here is something to talk to them about:
ReplyDeleteFrom Thom Hartmann:
"— The plan to “demolish” Social Security is underway right before our eyes: who will stop them? The GOP’s plan to make Americans hate Social Security is well along in its execution. Their scheme — which they’ve been advancing in small increments for 44 years — is brilliantly simple: break the agency’s ability to respond to taxpayers, causing people to have to wait on the phone or travel for hours to stand in line for hours. As complaints mount, Republicans will then point to the “broken Social Security Administration” and pitch a Medicare Advantage-like alternative: privatized “Social Security Advantage,” run by the big New York banks who are reliable GOP donors. Once a critical mass of seniors have moved from SS to the new privatized program, they’ll then just shut down legacy Social Security, arguing that “the free marketplace has spoken.” The key to accelerating the process (Social Security’s administrative staff has been far too small for decades since Reagan first started cutting it) is a new demand from Trump’s acting Social Security Commissioner that the agency cut its workforce by fully fifty percent. Once that happens, all bets are off; the agency may not even be able to get checks out in a timely manner or process applications for new benefits, much less help SS recipients sign up or solve problems they may encounter. As Congressman John Larson noted: “This is nothing more than a backdoor benefit cut and an insult to Americans who have paid into the system and earned their Social Security—all to pay for trillions in new tax cuts for the wealthy.” Social Security Works president Nancy Altman was blunt: “Field offices around the country will close. Wait times for the 1-800 number will soar.” Larson added: “Let me be clear—laying off half of the workforce at the Social Security Administration and shuttering field offices will mean the delay, disruption, and denial of benefits.” Meanwhile, Idaho’s Republican Senator Mike Crapo blocked Bernie Sanders’ attempt this week to give all seniors on Social Security a $2400 annual raise. Noting that the raise would be paid for by having people earning more than $250,000 a year start paying Social Security taxes on all their income above that amount (which is currently exempt from Social Security taxes), Congresswoman Jan Schakowsky (a co-sponsor of the legislation) said, “The Social Security Expansion Act will protect the national treasure that is Social Security by extending the trust fund’s solvency for 75 years and expanding benefits by $2,400 a year so that everyone in America can retire with the security and dignity they deserve after a lifetime of hard work.” But big banks and the morbidly rich object, and they own the GOP…"
https://hartmannreport.com/p/saturday-report-3125
Haitian immigrants ate Trump's Nobel Peace Prize.
ReplyDeleteWho is a sexier rebel, Elon Musk or Zelensky?
ReplyDeleteWhich is more refreshing, Pepsi or RC Cola?
There is no comparison, asswipe. Zelensky is a hero, defending his people from a brutal war of aggression perpetrated by a nuclear powered kleptocracy, musk is a megalomaniac oligarch destroying the us to enrich himself.
DeleteIt is hilarious that the troll @11:07 had to modify the original Pepsi Challenge between Pepsi and Coke to RC Cola, in order to avoid raising the issue of Musk's drug use! Coke references and Don Jr. are supported by video of his "Coke Jaw", like this one:
Deletehttps://www.jefftiedrich.com/p/this-week-in-stupid-march-1-edition
"Alexa, can grinding your jaw be a sign that you’ve hoovered way too much coke?
Cocaine jaw, also known as “coke jaw,” is a common side effect of cocaine use. It refers to the uncontrollable grinding of teeth and repetitive clenching of the jaw often observed in individuals who misuse cocaine.
oh gee.
Alexa, can putting your hand not quite to your mouth and then pretending you’re chewing on something be an effective way of masking that you’re coked to the fucking gills?"
Musk has been abusing Ketamine quite openly. Wouldn't want anyone to connect that to the Trump circle's other drug use, would we? So Coke becomes RC, which no one ever thought was similar to the real colas.
Or maybe Eastern European trolls on troll farms are not up on cultural attitudes towards cola drinks in the USA. Or the troll was trying to knock Zelensky, who is too busy fighting a war to abuse drugs the way today's right wing does. It is well known that white supremacists in red states are all meth abusers.
Zelensky is fit and righteous, and doesn’t suffer from Musk’s herpes, hair implants, botched penile implant, and disgustingly grotesque physique (google the pic of Musk in a bathing suit on his yacht, his pasty white, flabby tub of a belly and man boobs on full display, but fair warning it may induce vomitting).
DeleteMusk is the least sexy thing on the planet, which apparently fuels much of his rage and immiserating behavior, let’s not lean into that.
Apartheid groupies love his blatant racism.
DeleteMusk and Trump are both physically repulsive and share the belief that money makes them superior, not just rich. Delusions don't make you smart.
DeleteSomerby doesn't bother summarizing what happened in the oval office. He adopts a confusing and unrecognizable version and then moans and groans that we have all lost because Blue voters are apparently shit.
ReplyDeleteHere is a better summary:
https://heathercoxrichardson.substack.com/p/february-28-2025
I would have quoted it, but it is too long, but I consider it to be a much fairer account than Somerby's garbage.
The Ukraine grift is stealing hard earned money from middle class families who have to pinch pennies to buy basic necessities in order to enrich Ukrainian oligarchs who give it to their spoilt kids to get lip filler in London while lower class Ukrainian boys get slaughtered for the cause.
ReplyDeleteShitbot shitposts victim of pre-arranged, pre-scripted televised ambush.
DeleteHow do parents in North Korea feel about their "boys" being shipped to Ukraine as cannon-fodder by Russia?
Delete
ReplyDelete"The commander won by less than 1.5 points, but the fact is, he did win—and on that day, the die was cast."
There are many facts, Bob, most of which you and other Democrats prefer to ignore.
For example: the Harris campaign had a huge money advantage. The Harris campaign was overwhelmingly supported by the mainstream media. By polling companies. Etc. All things considered, it was indeed landslide victory.
Awwww. Poor little MAGA. Have to puff themselves up by saying how hard it is for them.
DeletePeace in Ukraine on day one! How's that workin' out?
Somerby’s buyer’s remorse over Trump, is hilarious!
ReplyDelete"WASHINGTON (The Borowitz Report)—Asserting that “it was for the good of my country,” Ukrainian president Volodymyr Zelenskyy met with a Russian agent on Friday.
ReplyDeleteZelenskyy said he was aware that meeting the enemy agent would stir controversy, but added, “It was important to communicate with someone who speaks for Putin.”
After the Ukrainian thoroughly destroyed his counterpart in the meeting, the Russian agent received a harsh upbraiding from his Kremlin superior, Elon Musk.
“I thought I told you not to have any meetings without me,” Musk screamed.
Meanwhile, Zelenskyy’s performance garnered wide praise. “Vlod, you kicked his ass!” said Bishop Budde."
Somerby keeps referring to the fictional people of Oran who didn't recognize the plague. The more relevant parallel with that book is the current failure to vaccinate children for measles ongoing in TX.
ReplyDeleteI do not understand Somerby's constant claim that We Blues don't recognize what is going on, when it seems to me it is the right with the distorted beliefs about a variety of issues, from who started the war in Ukraine to what happened during covid to whether kids get measles when they are unvaccinated. Two people have died and over 100 cases are ongoing, of a disease that was considered eradicated. Yet red voters, Trump and RFK Jr., and TX (where this is happening) don't seem to understand the seriousness of their unhinge health views -- yes, that goes for Bill Maher too.
Why doesn't Somerby draw more appropriate parallels from his own allusions? Does he not recognize that measles is becoming a plague due to Republican false beliefs? What the hell does Oran have to do with We Blues? Or Bruce Willis (who saw too much, not too little)?
Ukraine is still going strong, same with inflation, the genocide of Palestinians, and the Republican agenda to cut Medicare, Medicaid, and Social Security.
ReplyDeleteWho knew?
When Trump lost it and started ranting about Hunter’s bathroom (???), even Republicans finally woke to Trump’s lunacy.
ReplyDeleteSo delicious!