A policy proposal is being discussed!

THURSDAY, AUGUST 15, 2024

Here's how it's discussed on Fox: As far as we know, Andrew Gruel is an excellent chef. 

Also, he may be the world's nicest person—superb as a next-door neighbor. We're less thrilled with him as a television personality. Here's the start of his basic thumbnail:

Andrew Gruel

Andrew Gruel (born 1980) is an American chef and television personality, based in Orange County, California. He appeared as a judge on Food Network's Food Truck Face Off and as a host of FYI's Say It to My Face!, and is the founder of Slapfish, a seafood restaurant franchise that he launched in 2012 and sold to Mac Haik Enterprises in 2022...

The profile continues from there.

We're down on Gruel as a "personality" because of what he recently said. He said it Tuesday evening on the Fox News Channel's Gutfeld! show, where he's an occasional guest.

As background, consider an amazing fact:

All of a sudden, this very week, a policy proposal is being discussed by major American news orgs! At one time, that was a regular thing. Given the way our discourse currently works, it's been quite a while since something like that happened.

We refer to "No tax on tips," the policy which Candidate Trump proposed in June. Candidate Harris followed suit last weekend, though perhaps in a less expansive form. 

Despite the support from Candidate Harris, is "No tax on tips" a good idea? For starters, no! At the Washington Post, it isn't! 

At the Post, the whole thing started with Catherine Rampell. On Tuesday, the dual headline on her column said this:

Hot tip: Both parties should stop bribing voters with tax cuts
Exempting tips from taxes is a terrible idea, regardless of which party is proposing it.

Never mind what her reasoning was. In the end, that won't be our point. 

Oof! Harris proposed it—and Rampell slammed it! That same day, so did a trio of Post reporters in an Economic Policy analysis piece:

Why Trump and Harris’s ‘no tax on tips’ plans may not help tipped workers
Economists say the proposals are unlikely to have much practical impact, though either could cost the government at least $10 billion to $15 billion a year.

That's what the dual headline said atop their analysis piece.

Yesterday, along came the Post's Editorial Board. The dual headline on their editorial says this:

Not taxing tips is a dumb gimmick. Harris is wrong to follow Trump.
The Biden-Harris team dismissed an idea it now embraces. How it went from a waitress to mainstream.

As Casey Stengel might have put it: Can't anyone play this pro-Harris game here at the Washington Post?

For what it's worth, it isn't just the Washington Post! Here's the dual headline on the report for NPR's All Things Considered:

Trump and Harris support no tax on tips, but experts say it could complicate things
Both presidential nominees support no tax on tips. But this now-popular campaign issue is making tax experts and economists shake their heads.

The AP decided to play the same game! On Tuesday, Dee-Ann Durbin did the Associated Press report. Here's the headline on Durbin's AP report, along with her first few paragraphs:

Why Trump's And Harris' Proposals To End Federal Taxes On Tips Would Be Difficult To Enact

Former President Donald Trump and Vice President Kamala Harris agree on one thing, at least: Both say they want to eliminate federal taxes on workers’ tips.

But experts say there’s a reason Congress hasn’t made such a change already. It would be complicated, not to mention enormously costly to the federal government, to enact. It would encourage many higher-paid workers to restructure their compensation to classify some of it as “tips” and thereby avoid taxes. And, in the end, it likely wouldn’t help millions of low-income workers.

“There’s no way that it wouldn’t be a mess,” said James Hines Jr., a professor of law and economics and the research director of the Office of Tax Policy Research at the University of Michigan’s Ross School of Business.

Both candidates unveiled their plans in Nevada, a state with one of the highest concentrations of tipped service workers in the country. Trump announced a proposal to exclude tips from federal taxes on June 9. Harris announced a similar proposal on Aug. 10.

Durbin's buzzkill has been widely published—for example, right here by the Boston Globe.

The gloomy assessments have been general across the "liberal press." So much for bipartisan solutions to the nation's problems! 

The naysaying has been general over Blue America's orgs. Unless you're watching the Fox News Channel, where every single thing you're told comes straight outta the channel's easy-to-memorize propaganda playbook.

Key point! On Fox, you're always being screwed by "the media;" they're constantly screwing you bad! There's no need to cite a specific example. If you simply say "the media," that will be close enough.

Within the realm of the Fox News Channel, "the media" are always running a pro-Democrat [sic] Party con! With that in mind, here was the aforementioned Gruel, serving a conventional dish on Tuesday evening's Gutfeld! program, to the approval of all:

GRUEL (8/13/24): The funnier piece of this—let's take a step away—is the way in which the media is covering it, right? 

So when Trump came out and said that he was going to remove the tax on tips, it was like, "We're going to lose $250 billion to the federal"—right? It was all about, "This is going to be absolutely horrible for the government."

And then the media comes out when she says it, and it's some anodyne approach. "This policy is amazing. No problem at all." 

As he continued, the chef offered a theory about what Candidate Harris is really planning to do with her fiendish tax policy. His host rewarded his brilliance:

GUTFELD: See! It's all a Trojan horse!

A great deal more inanity followed during the segment in question. But if you watch the Fox News Channel, you will always receive a platter resembling the one Gruel served.

You will always be told what "the media" is doing to you. One tiny example will be more than enough. If someone somewhere has made some remark, that means that "the media" said it!

(Or you need provide no examples at all! That was the strategy the Gutfeld! guest selected.)

If you watch the Fox News Channel, you're automatically being screwed by "the media!" In this case, a television personality adopted the script. He's likely an excellent chef.

Calling the roll: On the evening in question, the termagant's panel include one former professional wrestler; two people who perform as comedians; and one guy who was described as a chef:

It's amazingly easy to master the scripts. Occasionally, an accurate statement or two may be made, but it isn't considered good form.

This conduct is being normalized—by the media!—through widespread benign neglect.


69 comments:

  1. Somerby has a scoop!

    Turns out that corporate media grades Trump on a curve, and Fox News is disingenuous.

    Huh! Who knew?

    It also turns out that no tax on tips is an old policy idea that’s been around for decades, indeed CA passed it a decade ago for state taxes.

    Furthermore, Trump just winged his “plan”, he read it off a teleprompter at a rally and offered no details, whereas Harris clarified her plan would be substantively different than Trump’s: Trump’s “plan” could be a windfall for wealthy earners by re-assigning aspects of their income as tips; Harris closes the sneaky loophole handout to the rich and combines it with an increase to minimum wage, thereby benefitting those in need instead of redistributing even more wealth to the rich.

    Through democratization, corporate media is on the decline, and is being replaced by independent media, which is playing a role in shifting society away from neoliberalism and putting stumbling blocks in the way of Trump’s neofascism.

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    1. I think the convict's plan (and maybe Kamala's) is to not tax executive bonuses. Thanks for all your hard work, Brad, here is your annual $400,000 bonus, er I mean tip. Wouldn't put it past them unless they have something like a $75,000 income max before tax comes back.

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  2. It blows my mind that the only policy being discussed is a tepid reform that's safe for both the candidates, meanwhile people are actually calling the election speeches the start of a "movement." The vice president is a tie breaker in the Senate and people are led to debate their hypothetical agendas as if their opinions are supremely influential. The Democrats vice president has more influence over little boys in Asia than in his own home. The Republican vice president is a useless culture tool.

    Isn't your cult leader telling you what politics are possible and draining your energy through personality analysis the opposite of a movement?

    Celebrate the small victory if you want but it's not happening from some enlightened political professionalism.

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    1. "than in his own home" ???

      Kamala Harris is female and thus it should say "than in her own home" because she is the "Democrats vice president".

      It is unclear from what you've written who is calling what a movement, who is the cult leader. The main movement is in the poll numbers. Harris not a movement or a cult, but simply a candidate. If you are talking about Republicans, why were they not named, the way you did the current VP. Your comment is very confusing and I don't see how someone is going to vote for either candidate based on taxing tips, when both have proposed the same policy. That makes the basis for choosing something different entirely.

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    2. Not sure why this appeared twice.

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    3. Its such a good point that the Blogspot algorithm repeated it.

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    4. Pretty sure 3:57 is referring to Walz & JD. Walz spent years teaching in China. I assume 3:57 is triggered as that makes Walz a commie lover even though he was also a teacher in Mankato, MN. During those years Walz repeatedly denounced the Chinese Government's human rights abuses. Walz signed a gender neutral bill saying feminine products need to be available to students that use them in their bathroom. So of course this must mean Waltz likes little Chinese boys. He is referring to JD as he is a peculiar woman hating crossdresser financed by billionaire (also too, gay, not that it matters) Peter Thiel; and is hard to describe other than a "useless culture tool." Also too the felon's former VP, Mike Pence, is still pissed that the pussy grabber was OK with him being murdered for not following orders in the fake elector coup scheme. I mean what kind of weird ass cult is this?

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    5. Little boys in Asia?

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    6. Harris is not running for vice president.

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    7. Should we be shocked that some aging powerful men love exotic travel destinations far from the prying eyes of their family?

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    8. WTF wrong with you 12:29? Seriously. What makes you say such God-awful stuff with zero evidence. Get some help.

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  3. Several media sources have noted that both Trump and Harris proposed no-tax on tips. But Somerby calls that a pro-Harris headine, saying:

    "Not taxing tips is a dumb gimmick. Harris is wrong to follow Trump.

    The Biden-Harris team dismissed an idea it now embraces. How it went from a waitress to mainstream." End quote, then Somerby says:

    "As Casey Stengel might have put it: Can't anyone play this pro-Harris game here at the Washington Post?"

    So, telling the truth suddenly becomes "pro-Harris"? How is that fair? And why would someone supposedly supporting Harris consider it an imbalance when a paper finally notices that both Trump and Harris are in agreement and says so, instead of trying to create a false equivalence?

    Instead, Somerby goes on to rant about the press, as usual.

    Harris and Biden were trying to stop employers from appropriating their employees' tips. Laws concerning tipping differ from state to state and are complicated. That is no reason not to try to make compensation fair for those in tipped occupations, and no reason to stop the entire wage economy from demanding tips. Many people are tired of seeing that tip screen come up when they pay with a credit card, even for situations where someone is not normally tipped, and they respond by not tipping any more. When employers pay minimum wage with the expectation that workers are receiving non-existent tips, that is a problem for workers. Treating this as if it were campaign pandering and not a problem that needs solving is Somerby's mistake, in my opinion. No one expects Trump to enact sound legislation on anything affecting workers, so Harris is getting all of Somerby's ire.

    But this essay really has the flavor of something phoned in, another attempt to batter the press, who do not deserve it once again. I hope voters are smart enough to realize that no-tax on tips may happen with Harris but won't with Trump. That is the key difference between their proposals.

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    1. Did you see the headline Harris is gong to “propose” a ban on grocery price gouging? The people who are controlling her think her supporters are total fools.

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    2. At least they know how to spell 'going.'

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    3. Petty to ding people over obvious typos.

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    4. Who's controlling her?

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    5. The C. Wright Mills thing. The power elite, the permanent government, the people who are overseeing our attack of Russia by proxy.and propagandizing you to be happy that the joyful Harris is going to “propose” and never follow through on making Pringles affordable again. You wouldn’t really understand.

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    6. I'm so brainwashed by the power elite I think Russia invaded Ukraine.

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    7. 7:33,
      There is no power elite or permanent government.
      It's just a reality show.
      Some genius proved that on TDH yesterday.

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    8. ”I’m so brainwashed by the power elite I think Russia invaded Ukraine.“

      Yup.

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    9. The power elites are producers of the show. The men behind the curtains so to speak. This is all a little above your pay grade, though.

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    10. Much esoteric wisdom do you possess, O Teacher. Please, instruct us.

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    11. It is a kind of sexism to suggest that Harris is not in control of her own policy and campaign.

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    12. "The power elites are producers of the show."

      So it's the power elite that made Putin invade Ukraine? Am I following this correctly?

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    13. So it's the power elite that made Putin invade Ukraine? Am I following this correctly?


      Yup.

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    14. Damn! That is one powerful, Powerful Elite!

      So do you learn this stuff from a newsletter, or the back of a cereal box or...?

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    15. Don't listen to 7:33.
      It's all just a reality show.

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    16. It’s not that hard to research it.

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    17. Eg

      https://www.cato.org/commentary/us-nato-helped-trigger-ukraine-war-its-not-siding-putin-admit-it

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    18. Do the cereal boxes come with a prize, like a decoder ring? Is that what enables you to do the research?

      Puts new meaning into 'koo-koo for Cocoa Puffs.'

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    19. Hey Eg,

      Followed your link and first sentence reads:

      'Putin’s decision to launch a full-scale invasion of Ukraine is a monstrous act of aggression."

      Boy am I confused now. This guy seems as brainwashed as I am. It's no picnic down here in the lower pay grades.

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    20. I don’t envy you.

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    21. Pro tip: read all of the sentences.

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    22. If you can remember all the way back to less than an hour ago, you agreed I'd been brainswashed into thinking Russia invaded Ukraine.

      To support your view, you linked me to a site that said not only that Russia invaded Ukraine, but that it was a monstrous act of aggression.

      Think much?

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    23. Yes, that’s a good point. I should’ve clarified it.

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    24. But if you don’t think the power elite provoked Russia into invading Ukraine, it’s your business. It’s all documented though.

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    25. It’s no skin off my back what you believe or don’t. You may not think the power elites are controlling Kamala Harris. Or that they provoke Russia into invading Ukraine. You should believe whatever you want.

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    26. "You should believe whatever you want."

      I think that's called projecting.

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    27. I don't believe that I, or anyone else, should believe what we want. We should believe what is true.
      It is a fact that Russia invaded Ukraine. Whether they were 'provoked' into doing so is a matter of opinion which you present as if it is fact.
      In my opinion people like you, possessors of the esoteric knowledge that Harris is 'controlled' by the power elite, like to talk this way because it makes you feel superior. You can write dismissively of those of us in the lower pay grades.

      In short, you believe what you want to believe.

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    28. The provocation of which I speak is a fact though. And I am superior to you.

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    29. You are in lower pay grade. You are the fuel that keeps the reality show going.

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    30. Just relax and be happy that President elect Harris is going to concentrate on proposals to make Pringles more affordable.

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    31. And go see a movie about superheroes.

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    32. You seem intent on proving me right. I rest my case.

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    33. Putin/ Russian oligarchs are controlling Trump and Republican members of Congress due to blackmail, not due to them being the power elite.

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  4. "Instead, Somerby goes on to rant about the press, as usual."

    Perhaps you're not aware that "ranting about the press" is the raison d'etre of this blog. As you can see from the subheading: "musings on the mainstream 'press corps' and the american discourse"

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    1. There is actual media analysis but this ain’t it.

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    2. Raison d’être.

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    3. Somerby seems to be aware that Harris has a different plan than Trump’s, yet Harris is the one getting criticized in corporate media, while Fox News is pushing a false narrative.

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  5. Playing the both sides do it game when Harris poroposal would not allow the wealthy to claim bonuses as tipe.

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    1. Thanks for making me feel better. It is all in the details, but Republicans don't do nuance.

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    2. Kavanaugh says when an official is bribed after the fact, it's a gratuity. Will those still be taxed?

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  6. Bob wrote, “Key point! On Fox, you're always being screwed by "the media;" they're constantly screwing you bad! There's no need to cite a specific example. If you simply say "the media," that will be close enough.”

    Of course Fox is right on this particular point. Citing examples is easy. Here are some big ones;
    — failure to report the weaknesses of the Steele dossier while giving huge coverage to the Russian collusion hoax.
    — failing to report about the Hunter laptop, which was not a hoax
    — failing to prominently report that the Harris/Biden lie that Trump called Nazis “fine people” is proved false by the actual recording and debunked by Snopes.

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    1. Once the media made the collective decision to disappear the open bigotry of Republican voters as the reason Trump was elected President in 2016, stories like the Russian collusion hoax were inevitable.

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    2. Nazis are fine people.

      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Rabe

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    3. What to know about Mark Robinson, the Republican nominee for North Carolina governor
      March 12, 20246:06 PM ET
      Heard on All Things Considered
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      Colin Campbell


      Republicans in North Carolina voted to nominate Lt. Gov. Mark Robinson for governor. He has come under fire for his history of anti-gay and anti-Semitic remarks.

      And the republican nominee for president has just given him a rousing endorsement in NC.

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  7. "The gloomy assessments have been general across the "liberal press." So much for bipartisan solutions to the nation's problems! .... The naysaying has been general over Blue America's orgs."

    The Murdochian Washington Post and AP? Even NPR is a stretch these days. But you keep perpetuating the GOP's "liberal media" bullshit.

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  8. Every Right-winger knows the media is liberal and “fake news”.
    You can tell by how upset thy are that Harris won’t bow down to the media.
    LOL

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    1. Anonymice 6:10pm, not taxing tips (rather than raising the minimum wage) for all and sundry workers is not typically a policy endorsed by Democrats. That’s why you see it being challenged by the progressive media.

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    2. Progressive media. LOL.

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    3. "the progressive media."

      Mother Jones Magazine?

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    4. The policy was in fact not just endorsed but enacted by Dems in California, which is not just the 5th largest economy in the world, the engine that drives America, but also about as blue as blue states get.

      Harris’ plan would include raising the minimum wage. Harris’ plan is being challenged in corporate media, not progressive media.

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    5. Not at. all clear to me why the idea of not taxing tips is good. Many if not most whose income involves tips are in a tax bracket that is quite low. On the other hand, strip club dancers and high end restaurant employees may take home a lot of money and there is no reason to not tax them based upon their bracket. Why should these workers be treated separately from any other? Makes no sense.

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    6. Employers make an adjustment to workers salaries when they presumably make tips. It allows them to pay their workers less. Whether the tips materialize or not is irrelevant to the much lower hourly wage employers pay. The employers are exempt from minimum wage requirements in some states because of the tips, which are optional for customers. When tips are paid in cash at a table (for example) or handed to the worker directly, there is no way to account for how much has been received. Employers lowball workers on hourly wages because of that.

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    7. I have noticed the past year that the woman who cuts my hair has quietly asked me each time to give her my usual tip in cash. Never really thought about it till now.

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  9. I'm sure that the mainstream media will stop enabling Trump. Don't hold your breath.

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