DISORDER(S): Two little girls teach a valuable lesson!

FRIDAY, AUGUST 23, 2024

As does their great aunt: As happenstance has it, we'll be seeing one of our own great nieces today.

Her parents are driving her north from Durham, then farther north from here. She's lucky enough to be on her way to her freshman year in college. 

She's lucky enough to be very involved in her schoolwork and in track. She's happy and excited to be taking this step.

That would be one of our (truly great) great nieces. Last night, there they were—two great nieces of Candidate Harris. Capably joined by Kerry Washington, they were teaching a valuable lesson:

LITTLE GIRL ONE (8/22/24): Hi, everybody! My name's Amara.

LITTLE GIRL TWO: And my name's Leela, her little sister.

WASHINGTON: And what are you here to do?

AMARA: To teach you how to say our auntie's name...

We're going to let NPR place its own framework around the event. Headline included, here's their account, even as the org provides videotape of the entire lesson:

How do you pronounce Kamala's name? Her great-nieces gave the DNC a lesson

Actress Kerry Washington introduced two of Kamala Harris’ great-nieces to set the record straight on how to pronounce their auntie’s name.

“Confusion is understandable,” Washington said on the oft-repeated mispronunciations of the vice president’s name. “Disrespect is not. So tonight, we are going to help everyone get it right.”

Harris’ nieces, Amara and Leela then joined Washington on stage.

“First you say ‘Kama,’ like a comma in a sentence,” Amara said.

“Then you say ‘La,’ like ‘la-la-la-la-la,’” little sister Leela pitched in, repeating the sound like a melody.

“Put it together,” Washington said, “And it’s Kamala!”

Former President Trump has repeatedly mispronounced Harris’ first name. At one rally in July, he said: “I couldn’t care less if I mispronounce it. I couldn’t care less.”

"Doe, a deer, a female deer?" We couldn't help being reminded!

In its account, NPR chose to quote the other candidate. For the record, he has done more than mispronounce the name in question. He has often delivered childish, mocking lectures about the three million different ways Candidate Harris allegedly says her own name.

NPR chose to mention Trump. Watching last night's lesson in how to say it, we thought of the relentless garbage can conduct broadcast each day by the Fox News Channel. 

We also thought of what Rep. Nancy Mace (R-SC) recently said on CNN. Truly, this was gruesome:

MACE (8/15/24): I will say "Kamala" any way that I want to...

In our view, Mace had lured two other panelists into taking the bait. But that statement by Mace taught a valuable lesson all by itself—a real lesson in something resembling a type of disrespect.

Regarding the Fox News Channel:

Luckily, it's as we've constantly told you. Luckily, there's no such thing as horrible people. 

If there were such a thing as horrible people, the channel would perhaps be the employer of possibly more than a few. They persist in their bungled pronunciations of the candidate's first name, long after it's been explained—again and again and again and again—how the name is pronounced.

To his credit, Greg Gutfeld pronounces the name correctly, though things tend to go downhill from there. Many others don't pronounce it correctly. Borrowing from Joyce, we'd say the disrespect is general over this propaganda network as its news directors—its suits—let this childish Babel continue.

If there were such a thing as bad people, some of these people might qualify, Luckily, we know that no such critters exist.

Capably assisted by Washington, Amara and Leela taught a valuable lesson last night. Later, so did their great aunt in an extremely well written, extremely well delivered speech.

In fact, their great aunt taught several lessons—for example, in how to move on:

In the words she chose to say, her political party was moving on from its not infrequent over-reliance on certain aspects of "identity" discourse. Beyond that, she and her convention were teaching a lesson in how to embody the change you seek, as opposed to the less effective practice of talking about it.

Our nation's various "demographic groups" filled the hall for four consecutive nights. 

As we all know, our benighted ancestors set in motion a series of brutal historical lessons which built our culture around the idea that we aren't just a bunch of people. Instead, our culture teaches that different types of people exist.

"Race" is just a social construct, the liberal world has been saying at least since the 1960s. That said, "race" is also one of the cornerstones our national culture was built upon, and it's very, very. very hard to turn a nation's culture around once it's deeply embedded in the soil.

Of course, people are still treated as if they belong to a "race." But the hall was filled with every demographic this week—and we were struck, as we watched, by the lack of awkwardness or discomfort on display as members of those various groups sat side-by-side, stood shoulder-to-shoulder, in that very large, very crowded hall.

The delegates seemed to be completely at ease with each other. Last night, up stepped the great aunt herself, who may also become the commander in chief. 

To our eye and ear, she performed a seamless transition into a type of American future as she said such things as these

HARRIS (8/22/24): As commander-in-chief, I will ensure America always has the strongest, most lethal fighting force in the world. I will fulfill our sacred obligation to care for our troops and their families.

And I will always honor, and never disparage, their service and their sacrifice.

As a general matter, we're not in favor of killing people. That said, she conveyed the clear sense that she meant what she said—and she showed us what it looks like for a woman to adopt this role in a way which looks and sounds completely normal and convincing.

All in all, we'd relate the change she embodied to this other part of her speech:

HARRIS: Our opponents in this race are out there, every day, denigrating America, talking  about how terrible everything is. 

Well, my mother had another lesson she used to teach. Never let anyone tell you who you are. You show them who you are.

We'd say she showed us the change last night, without feeling the need to tell us what the change is. As we watched, we thought about one of our favorite passages from literature. 

We've posted this passage before.  We hope we can cite it again without seeming to be condescending. It's all part of the human experience.

The passage comes from Book II, Chapter 9 of Willa Cather's My Antonia. Cather's narrator—a very thinly disguised, gender-switched version of Cather herself—talks about the way the girls and young women he admired so much in his youth had finally emerged in a way which had long been earned, deserved.

These were the immigrant girls and young immigrant women of Cather's late 19th century Nebraska youth. Cather's narrator was gratified but unsurprised by their earned emergence:

My Antonia: Book II, Chapter 9

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The American farmers in our county were quite as hard-pressed as their neighbors from other countries. All alike had come to Nebraska with little capital and no knowledge of the soil they must subdue. All had borrowed money on their land. But no matter in what straits the Pennsylvanian or Virginian found himself, he would not let his daughters go out into service. Unless his girls could teach a country school, they sat at home in poverty. 

The Bohemian and Scandinavian girls could not get positions as teachers, because they had had no opportunity to learn the language. Determined to help in the struggle to clear the homestead from debt, they had no alternative but to go into service [within the homes of native-born families]. Some of them, after they came to town, remained as serious and as discreet in behavior as they had been when they ploughed and herded on their father’s farm. Others, like the three Bohemian Marys, tried to make up for the years of youth they had lost. But every one of them did what she had set out to do, and sent home those hard-earned dollars. The girls I knew were always helping to pay for ploughs and reapers, brood-sows, or steers to fatten.

One result of this family solidarity was that the foreign farmers in our county were the first to become prosperous. After the fathers were out of debt, the daughters married the sons of neighbors—usually of like nationality—and the girls who once worked in Black Hawk kitchens are to-day managing big farms and fine families of their own; their children are better off than the children of the town women they used to serve.

I thought the attitude of the town people toward these girls very stupid. If I told my schoolmates that Lena Lingard’s grandfather was a clergyman, and much respected in Norway, they looked at me blankly. What did it matter? All foreigners were ignorant people who couldn’t speak English. There was not a man in Black Hawk who had the intelligence or cultivation, much less the personal distinction, of Ántonia’s father. Yet people saw no difference between her and the three Marys; they were all Bohemians, all “hired girls.”

I always knew I should live long enough to see my country girls come into their own, and I have. To-day the best that a harassed Black Hawk merchant can hope for is to sell provisions and farm machinery and automobiles to the rich farms where that first crop of stalwart Bohemian and Scandinavian girls are now the mistresses...

Cather always knew she'd live long enough to see those young women come into their own! There's much, much more to that superb and ardent chapter, but we thought of that passage as we watched the convention last night.

The nominee still has a long way to go. Victory isn't assured. She'll be tested in various ways.

Sadly, two little girls had to go on the stage last night to teach people like Mace a bone-simple lesson. Our guess?

They'll still be mispronouncing that name on the Fox News Channel. That channel teaches an anthropology lesson, one we expect to explore in more detail in the coming weeks.

As for our own great niece, she's fortunate enough to be off to college, and to be excited and hopeful about it. We remember her when she was even younger than the two girls who had to take the stage last night--for example, on the Thanksgiving of the year when she was 3-and-a-half.

Luckily, there's no such thing as horrible people. That said, top anthropologists widely agree:

We the humans do in fact frequently wander astray.

That's even true within our own tribe! We'll also be detailing that.

123 comments:

  1. Trump suppoerters also mocked Tim Walz' developmentally disabled son. What did Hillary call these people? "Deplorables"?

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    1. Trump is on record of having the notion that disabled people with "should just die".

      Seems a bit extreme, but who are we to judge, right?

      After all, Trump is one of our good and decent "neighbors" who we should listen to in order to learn from.

      Anything is possible.

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    2. There are rumors that Barron is developmentally disabled too.

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    3. Keep that rumor in your pants, Trump is a nasty man, Barron is just one of his victims.

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    4. Not anymore. He is of age and responsible for his own behavior now.

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    5. Anonymouse 12:25pm, yeah, maybe Barron will do the right thing and denounce his dad for you any second. Or else,

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    6. Barron? Yeah, maybe. Just like Melania has tacitly done. She refuses to appear at Trump’s side. Family values and all that jazz.

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    7. Anonymouse 5:27pm, Melania did not have a good time of it as the 2nd Villain and it wasn’t what she signed up for when she married Trump. Now he’s doing it again at great personal cost to them both. When Melania does appear, she does it for Barron and I’d wager that she stays married to her husband for the same reason. That’s family values enough.

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    8. Completely agree. Both Melania and Donald are victims of his unselfish dedication to the service of this country, which is, by the way, in the toilet. But they will overcome the hardship that his heroic patriotism imposes on them. Love conquers all.

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    9. They are transactional so it is about money.

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    10. Anonymouse 9:37pm, you “completely agree” with something I never said. Figures.

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    11. “ it wasn’t what she signed up for when she married Trump”

      What exactly did she “sign up for”? She must have been aware of his philandering.

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    12. She signed up for him. She signed up for the man and the mogul. The total package.Wealth, influence, security, travel, his enthusiasm. If he was talking about running for president in those days, she would have considered it as talk. It’s also likely that Melania combined her opinion that he was getting a pretty good deal with her rather spectacular self, with a sensibility that men will be men, but he’d likely stick with her. They became a couple in 1998 and married in 2005.

      That’s my opinion. It’s worth diddly and so is yours.

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    13. So it was completely transactional.

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    14. Anonymouse 10:07pm, continue along with your eyes closed, your ears covered, and keep humming.

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  2. Here's Kevin:

    https://jabberwocking.com/donald-trump-is-still-losing-his-mind/

    https://jabberwocking.com/america-is-not-in-decline-not-even-close/

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  3. It’s spelled “Trump”, but it’s pronounced “rapist”.

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  4. Kamala is pronounced "president".

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    1. Yes, obviously. But let's remember:

      Donald Trump has significantly outperformed polling in two consecutive presidential elections
      The Electoral College favors the Republicans
      Eventually, Kamala has to make her case in an unscripted and adversarial format, which she proved entirely incapable of doing in the 2020 primary
      There’s still more than two months to go
      Liberals are assholes which inclines people to vote against them

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    2. Yawn.

      Trolls make me sleepy.

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    3. Totally! But not everyone made a political party their religion and reason for being. And they remember living though Trump winning an election that everyone was certain he would lose. But yes. This is a certainty. Of course it is.

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    4. Especially the low-brow, repetitive ones.

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    5. Also, sooner or later the George W. Bush Administration will have to show us the proof of Saddam Hussein's WMD program, or else their is no going to war with Iraq.

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  5. "If there were such a thing as bad people, some of these people might qualify, Luckily, we know that no such critters exist."

    Why does Somerby keep saying this? We all know that there is such a thing as a bad person. There are some extremely bad people, many of whom wind up in prison because they cannot live in society without hurting others. We can argue about what makes them bad, but there is no doubt that bad people exist.

    So what is Somerby trying to say when he makes such a blatantly false statement, in sort of tongue-in-cheek tone, repeating it? Is he trying to underline that some of these right-wingers ARE bad, or is he asserting some sort of quasi-religious touchy-feely faith in humanity (that is entirely inconsistent with other aspects of his world view), or is he suggesting we shouldn't consider any human being to be bad, much less evil, no matter what the behavior, by virtue of their humanity? He doesn't say. He just repeats this fatuous obviously wrong statement.

    Trump is a bad person. It doesn't matter how he got that way or why he is bad. It matters that he is seeking power over other people's lives and would do harm if he attained it. He must be opposed because he is unfit for office and would hurt people if he were reelected. Full stop. End of sentence. Pretending there are no bad people in this context is majorly offensive. It shows a disregard for the victims of the bad people who surely do exist.

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    1. Somerby is a wounded lost soul, deserving of our pity, but not deserving to be taken literally or seriously; that would be pure folly.

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    2. If we are not to take Somerby seriously, what is intended by his non-serious remarks?

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    3. Somerby intends to soothe his emotional discomfort by attaining some sense of relevancy and dominance. It is not terribly interesting how he achieves this; it is more interesting how people respond to his attempts.

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    4. anon 10:48 & 10:55 - what is it with you, asserting without any evidence, and no indication that you possess any insight, this claim that TDH (and apparently anyone who takes his side) is a "lost soul", or as you say here about TDH, that he "intends to soothe his emotional discomfort by attaining some sense of relevancy and dominance," So dumb! You use dishonest rhetorical devices, it's obnoxious.

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    5. The “wounded soul” shtick from that anonymouse may be the only actual and accurate example of the anonymouse flying monkey line of “every accusation is a confession”.

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  6. I believe that every time Comma La's name is said, it should trigger a video graphic of Tinkerbell flitting around the word “Kamala" and starring the final syllable with her wand.

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    1. Yes, this extends the latest right wing meme that Kamala Harris is a princess. Next you'll be complaining about her roller-skating. Kamala Harris didn't name herself.

      Trump's immigrant family changed its name from Drumpf to Trump upon coming to America. JD Vance has now changed his name four times.

      White supremacists love Willa Cather because she glorifies the white Aryan immigrant tradition in America, those Scandinavian and German farm girls who are the salt of the earth. Antonia returns to the farm, marries and has a large family, just like women in neo-Nazi beliefs are supposed to do. They were the farm trad-wives, after earning the money in town as servants, to help keep their family farms going. Jim Burden's crush on them when Antonia is 13-14 and barefoot with ruddy cheeks, is perhaps what Somerby loves best about the novel.

      The focus on Harris' name among right-wingers is to underline that she is brown-cheeked, different, foreign but above-all, non-white.

      I like Tinkerbell and I like Harris, but there is no resemblance between Harris and Tinkerbell (who is a fairy and not human). Harris worked hard to reach her current position. She doesn't need anyone else's magic to do the job of president.

      Republicans need not worry about pronouncing her name. Soon it will be "Madame President."

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    2. People pronounce Comma in slightly different ways around the world. I am told the correct pronunciation is Come-ah-la. Wille Brown would say it as Cum-ah-la.

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    3. Anonymouse 10:39am, Comma La is most certainly a princess in the traditional sense and that happens to be part and parcel with ALL the demands of liberal sensibilities as to gender, race, and ethnicity.

      Comma La in all her joyous glorious strong and brilliant presence is still sadly put upon, disrespected, disparaged, undervalued, treated treacherously, envied, and under-estimated. Just ask you… But someday her prince will come and he’ll be one of the transwomen on X telling all her critics to shut-the- f-up or he..eh…she will pound you to a pulp.

      You anonymices must satisfy yourselves with dancing around her ala Disney’s Cinderella cartoon as she disdains you and eventually runs you out of her employment.

      We all live Joyously ever after.

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    4. Trump says "Kamala" to describe how he feels when raping a 13yo.

      Somerby, Trump, Epstein, Dershowitz, Pinker, Gates, etc all these men with roughly similar worldviews that seem highly intrigued by young females.

      Trump likely views his victims as "crooked", having to throw good money at a 13yo in case she needs an abortion after he rapes her. In light of Trump's Supreme Court overturning Roe, at least now Trump can just throw his victims a coat hanger instead of cash.

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    5. Anonymouse 11:52am, it’s certain that you’re typing with one hand as you do this spiel daily.

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    6. Whoa, how'd you know?

      Yes, I lost an arm serving in Iraq.

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    7. Anonymouse 12:02pm, mere minutes ago I mentioned the liberal victimhood card and here you are immediately trying to play it. Surprise.

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    8. Liberals aren’t victims, we want to protect defenseless people against bad ones like Trump.

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    9. Cecilia, I think you are going off the rails on this one.

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    10. anon 11:05, "White supremacists love Willa Cather"??? what evidence to you of that? I doubt any "white supremacist" ever heard of her.

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    11. I’m a white supremacist, and I loathe Willa Cather. I admire Tellulah Bankhead.

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    12. AC/MA, oh, well. I think the drama around the pronunciation of her name is an excruciatingly pathetic ploy to make a very privileged person (and there’s nothing wrong with that) seem victimized.

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    13. Take this ploy away from them. Stop calling her Comma La.

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    14. Anonymouse 1:01pm, absolutely not. I must be sure that when you read Comma La’s name, you’re not mispronouncing it in your head.

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    15. Cecelia not only insults the commenters here, (s)he also insults all liberals. Classy, as always.

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    16. Don’t be afraid, Cecelia. Kamala will be a good president.

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    17. Anonymouse 2:34 pm, we’ll certainly hope so.

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    18. Cecilia, I see your point - that stuff is goes on constantly in the election by everyone, it's theater of the absurd. But, it does seem that intentionally mispronouncing her name is uncalled for and unpleasant.

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    19. Cecelia is clever. She doesn’t mispronounce ‘Kamala’. She refers to Kamala by writing the recommended pronunciation. So she shows that Kamala is small and weak.

      I’m going to vote for Trump, because he’s big and strong; his name can’t be mocked.

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    20. I agree. Cecelia’s wit has won me over. I’m no longer thinking of voting for Comma-La. I’ll vote for Trump. Make America great again!

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    21. AC/MA don’t be so lazy. Do a search.

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    22. Call her what you want.
      Just don't call her late to the Presidential Inauguration.

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  7. Somerby quotes Cather, who celebrates the progress of white Scandinavian girls in running the farms owned by their families. And he uses this to assert that race and gender are no longer obstacles! I think Somerby is a bit confused about Cather's point.

    And no, the young boy who is the narrator of My Antonia is not Cather herself. Cather is supposed to be someone who interacts with Jim Burden on a train in the Introduction to the book:

    "Narrator: The main part of the story is Jim Burden's memoir narrated in his first-person voice, from the perspective of an older man looking back on his childhood. The introduction to the novel is narrated by an unnamed individual, one of Jim's childhood acquaintances."

    Somerby converts that to gender-shifting, mistakenly making Cather into Jim Burden.

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    1. Thank you for explaining.

      Somerby routinely misinterprets circumstances to further his agenda of manufacturing ignorance, and routinely tries to map reality onto storytelling because he is aware storytelling can easily be weaponized for nefarious purposes.

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    2. Other than demonstrating a virtuosity in the mixing of metaphors, does this comment convey any actual thought other than "Somerby bad!"?

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    3. Some readers might actually care about Cather and her book.

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    4. I was referring to 1:15, not to you, 10:50. I thought what you said about Somerby’s mistake about the narrators was quite interesting.

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  8. "That's even true within our own tribe! We'll also be detailing that."

    There is no one among the Democrats who is as bad as Trump. Why? Because we do not elect crooks and rapists to office the way the Republicans do.

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    1. Somerby thinks we go astray when we point out the various oppressions right wingers engage in.

      In reality, anthropologists do not make proclamations about people wandering astray; science is primarily a descriptive endeavor. Somerby knows nothing of anthropology, nor science.

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    2. Anonymouse 11:09am, actually, you had several women claim to be pawed by Clinton and also a guy whose daughter said he showered with her.

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    3. You investigate such stories and some are real but some are politically motvated hit jobs. Trump has been convicted in court.

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    4. That shower story is a lie.

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    5. Anonymouse 12:20, Snopes deemed it true. We’ve talked about this before.

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    6. I would gladly shower with you, Cecelia.

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    7. Anonymouse 12:59pm, don’t wait on me. Just shower, you need one.

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    8. We’ll have a TDH commenters group shower. Come on in, the water’s fine.

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    9. I searched on Snopes and found zilch about Clinton taking a shower with someone's daughter.

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    10. Let’s shower with Snopes.

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  9. Mispronouncing someone's name on purpose does not make someone bad. Lying about them on purpose to get elected makes someone bad (as a candidate). Trump is also bad because of the way he treats people in his non-political life. He is bad because he rapes and assaults women. He is bad because he cheats on his wives. He is bad because he doesn't pay his legitimate debts in his business or in his campaign (that is theft). He is bad because he has no respect for the military except as a tool to enforce his own will. He is bad because he thinks disabled people should be mocked or even killed. He is bad because, in spite of his own immigrant heritage, he stereotypes immigrants as rapists, murderers and drug dealers, as fugitives from mental institutions and prisons. That is as bad as anything Hitler did to stigmatize the people he identified as scapegoats. Trump is bad because he doesn't follow the rules in any context, ignoring the needs of both society and other people. Trump is bad because he expresses incestuous feelings for his own daughter (Ivanka) and has mistreated 13-14 year old girls (with Epstein but also in his pageants). Trump is bad because he admires tyrants and sold out his country to Putin, who helped him get elected by manipulating an election. Trump is bad because he fomented an attempted coup that caused the deaths of 5 civilians and 3 peace officers and he shows no remorse for that.

    And that doesn't count the small things he does wrong every single day -- such as driving his golf cart onto the greens because he will not walk, like everyone else does. What adult throws food at the wall when angry -- in the White House (a national landmark most people treat with respect)? What politician would talk about the size of his penis at a campaign appearance? Trump is not right and he is not a good person struggling with disability. He is a bad person who does not try to be good, ever.

    The only way Somerby can possibly excuse someone as bad as Trump is by denying the very existence of bad people, as he does today. And that is an insult to humanity.

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  10. One thing that distinguishes people from animals is that we have a conscience and a sense of an idealized self (striving to be better) and a notion of what we ought to do compared to what we have done in the past and want to do in the future. This all made possible by our frontal lobes, which most animals do not have.

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    1. Apes have frontal lobes.

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    2. Apes have identity and knowledge or right and wrong. Note the word “most” before animals.

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    3. @Anon 2:29
      Yes, but they don't understand them.

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    4. Apes don’t understand frontal lobes? I agree, they don’t.

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  11. Notice how the. Cather posts were pulled out minutes after Bob referenced her.

    I wonder how many files they have that are labeled “Homer”, “Whitman”, “Dylan”, etc.

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    1. Somerby talks about Cather all the time. This is old territory. Cather is a favorite among white supremacists, as are Homer and Nietszche.

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    2. Anonymouse 12:16pm, that’s my point, Einstein. You have files of posts on Bob’s favorites at the ready.

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    3. No, it is Somerby who does that. Here you demonstrate the conservative tactic of blaming others for your own behavior.

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    4. Because he's so f*ucking repetitive.

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    5. Anonymouse 12:33pm, no, Bob has a set of people he obviously admires and references. You are aware of this and so you have pre written posts awaiting the mention of his favs.

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    6. Anonymouse 12:35pm, and because you’re on a mission.

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    7. Anonymouse 12:33pm, are you such a simpleton that you can’t ascertain the difference between someone who discusses his interests on his own blog, from agents who scheme and work to undermine that blogger?

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    8. “Cather is a favorite among white supremacists, as are Homer and Nietszche.”

      That’s an example of the fallacy of guilt be association.

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    9. David, I’m showering with Cecelia. Won’t you join us?

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    10. Anonymouse 1:05pm means the police are hosing him out from behind a shed.

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    11. They’re fixin’ to frogmarch me. Come on, Dave and Cec, I need your help right now.

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    12. These are the people who claim to want the "people" of the individual states decide on abortion rights, right Cecelia? Just checking.

      Arkansas Supreme Court Denies Bid to Get Abortion Measure on the Ballot
      A majority on the state Supreme Court sided with the secretary of state, who had rejected a citizen group’s petition for failing to submit some of the necessary paperwork.

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    13. Anonymouse 2:28pm, yes, required statutory processes are quite the impediment and abridgment of democracy. The Arkansas Supreme Court should know this.

      The group could get the ruling in front of the AR Supreme Cour , but they couldn’t get the signature process correct.

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    14. Read the dissents to the ruling. It was a 4-3 decision. The majority made up stuff.

      https://arktimes.com/arkansas-blog/2024/08/22/calvinball-arkansas-supreme-court-stretches-law-to-disqualify-abortion-petition?utm_medium=email&utm_source=ActiveCampaign&utm_campaign=Newspack%20Newsletter%20(610152)

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    15. Anonymouse 3:25pm, I guess you’re going to have to pack state SCs as well as SCOTUS.

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    16. So it's not really "let the people vote", right Cecelia?

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    17. Anonymouse 3:57pm, with your logic it would be let the people vote sans all structure or process. You argue like a teenager.

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    18. You argue like a bullshitter, Cecelia.

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    19. Hopefully abortion rights supporters will resubmit the petition with correct paper work

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    20. Anonymouse 4:23pm, it’s not bullshit to understand that whether conservative or liberal, or whether it’s you or me, we are not going to get every SC ruling that we want. In your case that event will always be due to malfeasance.

      However, even in the highly unethical situation of a verdict not going your way, votes still counted via appointments made by elected governors or by the votes of the people.

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    21. David, do you really think that’s the intention of these folks?

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    22. The triumph of form over substance. Go fuck yourself, David, you brought this on. Let the people vote, bwahahaha!!!

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    23. @4:43: I guess you didn’t read the article, the case, and the dissents. The majority wasn’t following the law. Over 100,000 signatures were obtained. The only recourse now would be the US Supreme Court, but it’s too late for it to appear on the ballot. The supporters plan to do it all over again next year.

      Have you heard of motivated reasoning? That’s what the majority engaged in here.

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    24. I don’t know the facts, I don’t know the law. But I have no confidence in the governor, nor in the secretary of state, nor in the supreme court.

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    25. "I guess you’re going to have to pack state SCs as well as SCOTUS."

      I'd love to see the Dems pass the anti-Hyde Amendment; all abortions are paid through federal funding.

      Now that the GOP made themselves a rump party, for overturning Roe v Wade, anything is possible.

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    26. The four Senators from D.C. and Puerto Rico will help.

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  12. Biden and Harris protect free markets.

    https://www.cbsnews.com/news/realpage-lawsuit-price-fixing/

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  13. MACE (8/15/24): I will say "Kamala" any way that I want to...

    Do what you must, NONsee Moss.

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  14. RFK Jr. withdraws and endorses Trump. What will the impact be?

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    1. It's good for Trump.

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    2. IMO it depends on how much chance RFK Jr gets to share his views. His criticisms of today’s Democratic Party is basically accurate. OTOH the left leaning media will try to deprive him of publicity.

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    3. Today’s Democratic Party is anything but.

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    4. They need to showcase RFK Jr, in order that voters can see that Vance isn't as weird and unlikeable by comparison. The hookup between Trump and RFK Jr will go down as the second most transactional event in Trump's life, following his marriage to Melania.

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    5. In other news, Donald J Chickenshit continues his struggle to prevent voters from voting.

      Trump and the Republican National Committee are suing Michigan Democratic Governor Gretchen Whitmer to stop her expanding voter registration in the crucial swing state.

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    6. Hey, Dickhead in Cal, you excited because the person Trump once called a "liberal lunatic" has endorsed little donny j chickenshit? I can see Trump's flop sweat from my desk here.

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    7. David in Cal,
      It looks like polio will not be made great again.

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    8. David in Cal,
      The media has to lean left. They're owned by corporations, and the Right knows absolutely nothing about economics. If the Right ever learns a basic thing about economics (look at me, I'm a comedian), I'd bet the media wouldn't lean Left.
      The media will lean Left until it's not run by people who understand economics.

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  15. Republicans purposely mispronounced Harris's first name because they have the maturity of middle schoolers. Its just another version of Trump's name calling, as opposed to his usual attachment of an adjective to a name. They are children.

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  16. I completely respect the practice of spelling out Harris's name phonetically as in Comma-la. It's the work of a fully matured intellect. Try as I might, the closest I can get to pronouncing the name spelled C E C E L I A is fknut.

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  17. Marc A. Caputo at The Bulwark reported that Tr*** told “a confidante” “This is just the way I am. I hate my opponent. I hate my opponents,” and “Hillary, Joe, Kamala. It doesn’t matter. I just hate them.” (https://www.thebulwark.com/p/donald-trump-i-hate-my-opponent-harris-debate-prep).

    You’ve probably seen the quote already, since lots of outlets picked it up.

    Not the NYTimes, though. In today’s top story (at least, it’s at the top of the website this morning), “Trump’s Carefully Scripted Week Kept Veering Off Script,” Michael C. Bender and Michael Gold go out of their way … I mean, WAY out of their way … to avoid using that quotation. Here is their paragraph:
    “Mr. Trump has told two people that he struggles to avoid making personal attacks because of how much animosity he feels for his opponents. He said that overwhelming hostility — whether it was for Jeb Bush, Hillary Clinton, President Biden or now Ms. Harris — made it difficult for him to not take shots, said the two people, who insisted on anonymity to discuss private conversations.” (https://www.nytimes.com/2024/08/24/us/politics/trump-campaign-2024.html?unlocked_article_code=1.FU4.5qSd.nJfwNxFGfWpd&smid=nytcore-ios-share&referringSource=articleShare) (gift link).

    The paraphrase lacks the impact of the quotation, mostly because Trump (allegedly) used the word “hate,” … so why not use the quotation? Sure, the quotation comes from another reporter on another outlet, but it’s a strong quotation! The quotation is indirect (reported by a third party), but the Times writers are willing to cite anonymous sources who verify Tr***’s “animosity” and “hostility,” so why not include the quotation? There’s no way they wouldn’t have seen it while researching this story. They could easily have included it with an appropriate hat tip to Caputo, and offered their own sources as confirmation. Why not use the quotation? I leave the answer to that question as an exercise for the reader.

    Anyway, as soon as I saw the Times article I thought of The Daily Howler, so here it is. Peace.

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    1. Oh, I tried to log in to post this, but it didn’t work, so I’m anonymous.

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    2. Duh. Because Substack is a significant existential threat to them, particularly in terms of distribution, and monetization. The NYT never wants to credit or acknowledge a Substack publication especially one that scooped them.

      Who are you? How could you ask such an obvious question?

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    3. Girl thinks she's uncovered some big, bad, anti-DNC bias at the Times.🤪🤪🤪🤪

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